Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

irishlad.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1354136982558023680

Now this is a crazy, crazy statistic

mloc123

thebronze14 wrote: »

Don't know how many times it needs to be said but remote learning is much trickier to execute than in person teaching and takes a lot more time to prepare and bring to the children so despite the opinion of some teachers and students are actually doing something at the moment. It mightn't be perfect but needs must.

Also despite another commonly held belief that holidays are solely for the benefit of the teacher, holidays are catered for the children. As time goes by children's concentration levels wane and believe me near the holiday time little seems to go in and retention and behaviour levels drop. Of course some will just jabber on about lazy teachers though

I am not saying the teachers are not doing anything, I understand they are... but the current setup is not working for anyone. So why are we carrying on the charade? Just officially close the schools now and make up the time later in the year... do we REALLY need an easter mid term if they are open before April?

ninebeanrows

ginoginelli wrote: »

Nephet have been advocating for strict hotel quarantining since the summer though. That is something that is possible, and would hugely suppress the virus.

I am sorry but how would this hugely suppress the virus?

polesheep

thebronze14 wrote: »

Don't know how many times it needs to be said but remote learning is much trickier to execute than in person teaching and takes a lot more time to prepare and bring to the children so despite the opinion of some teachers and students are actually doing something at the moment. It mightn't be perfect but needs must.

Also despite another commonly held belief that holidays are solely for the benefit of the teacher, holidays are catered for the children. As time goes by children's concentration levels wane and believe me near the holiday time little seems to go in and retention and behaviour levels drop. Of course some will just jabber on about lazy teachers though

Nothing of what you wrote addresses the point that was made, which was that holidays should happen now to allow for face to face teaching later.

Stateofyou

mloc123 wrote: »

I am not saying the teachers are not doing anything, I understand they are... but the current setup is not working for anyone. So why are we carrying on the charade? Just officially close the schools now and make up the time later in the year... do we REALLY need an easter mid term if they are open before April?

It is working for a lot of people.

Both parents and children need a break from the hours of school work currently being done every day, on top of the stress of many parents trying to do their job.

WicklaBlaa

irishlad. wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1354136982558023680

Now this is a crazy, crazy statistic

The cases back in the first wave were under reported by thousands.

Sardonicat

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

I am sorry but how would this hugely suppress the virus?

Because people carrying the virus travelling into the country wont be able to spread it from their hotel room.

mloc123

Stateofyou wrote: »

It is working for a lot of people.

Both parents and children need a break from the hours of school work currently being done every day, on top of the stress of many parents trying to do their job.

Wait... you say it is working and then go on to outline how it is not working

irishlad.

WicklaBlaa wrote: »

The cases back in the first wave were under reported by thousands.

I get that but there were many, many months of normal test levels as well.

thebronze14

mloc123 wrote: »

I am not saying the teachers are not doing anything, I understand they are... but the current setup is not working for anyone. So why are we carrying on the charade? Just officially close the schools now and make up the time later in the year... do we REALLY need an easter mid term if they are open before April?

It would be a disaster if the children received no sort of education between now and April Would be like going back to square one when we go back. I know remote learning is in no way perfect but at least it keeps the children that are engaged ticking over. Primary School students are going to be in school until the very end of June. Would be a bit ****ty in this ****tiest of years to have them work through the summer months as well when restrictions might be eased and the weather might be better for them.... In a perfect world I would agree with you but working through holidays like this would cause more problems for parents/students/teachers for the benefit of noone to be perfectly honest

is_that_so

irishlad. wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1354136982558023680

Now this is a crazy, crazy statistic

That puts the mortality rate at round about 1%.

Turtwig

WicklaBlaa wrote: »

The cases back in the first wave were under reported by thousands.

Yep. The ones in the third wave have been heavily underreported too.

Still, the contrast is pretty clear. This most recent wave was bloody significant.

CrabRevolution

Stateofyou wrote: »

It is working for a lot of people.

Both parents and children need a break from the hours of school work currently being done every day, on top of the stress of many parents trying to do their job.

But they've only been doing it for at most 3 weeks, why do they need a break already?

gipi

Gael23 wrote: »

Weekend effect. Hospital and nursing home managers work Monday to Friday 9 to 5

Hospital and nursing home staff have no role in registering deaths. Deaths are registered by the family of the deceased, and they have 3 months to do so. That's why the numbers fluctuate so much, it all depends on when the family register the death ( now done online, I understand, it was done in person at HSE offices so was a Monday to Friday event).

blowitupref

First time to get under 1000 reported cases this year.
Seven day average is 1865 cases per day it was 3046 last Tuesday.

Sardonicat

gipi wrote: »

Hospital and nursing home staff have no role in registering deaths. Deaths are registered by the family of the deceased, and they have 3 months to do so. That's why the numbers fluctuate so much, it all depends on when the family register the death ( now done online, I understand, it was done in person at HSE offices so was a Monday to Friday event).

Do Covid deaths not get reported by professionals as a public health matter?

hotmail.com

UDAWINNER wrote: »

the cynic in me wouldn't be too surprised that MM did not introduce Quarantine for all travel because he knows he will be on a jolly up in washington in over a month and this is hardly essential travel:)

Surely that rubbish isn't happening this year?

thebronze14

polesheep wrote: »

Nothing of what you wrote addresses the point that was made, which was that holidays should happen now to allow for face to face teaching later.

So you are suggesting working what? March through to July for Primary School kids without a meaningful break? That is a complete waste of time as children will have zoned out by the end of April and would do much more damage than what is happening at the moment. Just in case your wondering myself like most other teachers want to get back to school ASAP. I will be happy and raring to go whenever the call is made

Stateofyou

mloc123 wrote: »

Wait... you say it is working and then go on to outline how it is not working

Unless you are on your holiday's, life is stress. I didn't say it isn't without stress. Children going to school is stress too. Tests/exams, making lunches, getting everyone going on time with clean uniforms, handling tears and problems at school, homework (NIGHTMARE) so you're going nowhere with that point.

fits

is_that_so wrote: »

That puts the mortality rate at round about 1%.

I wouldn’t be pronouncing anything about death rates yet. A lot to come still in next couple of weeks unfortunately.

yerwanthere123

Surely they'll need to start testing close contacts again soon? The pressure on testers has got to have eased significantly inside the last couple of weeks??

Stateofyou

CrabRevolution wrote: »

But they've only been doing it for at most 3 weeks, why do they need a break already?

On top of the previous 3 months put in at school, and homework every evening. :rolleyes:

is_that_so

fits wrote: »

I wouldn’t be pronouncing anything about death rates yet. A lot to come still in next couple of weeks unfortunately.

It's still a much lower rate than back in March and April.

brickster69

New variant arrived

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1354136308847927300

CrabRevolution

Stateofyou wrote: »

On top of the previous 3 months put in at school, and homework every evening. :rolleyes:

Generations of families have coped just fine with months of school interspersed with holidays, what's so special about you that you deserve a break?

WicklaBlaa

fits wrote: »

I wouldn’t be pronouncing anything about death rates yet. A lot to come still in next couple of weeks unfortunately.

Thousands of cases are not reported - The death rate is probably much less than 1%.

Now with close contacts not being tested we are missing out on asymptomatic cases.

Car99

blowitupref wrote: »

First time to get under 1000 reported this year.
Seven day average is 1865 cases per day it was 3046 last Tuesday.

And the RTE headline today is " Ireland's Covid-19 death toll passes 3,000" . Line 10 of the article before today's cases are reported.

While getting below 1000 cases per day is nothing to cheer about it is because of the collective effort of the population and a bit of recognition of the effort with a less negative headline would not hurt the nations psyche.

RTE's unrelenting doom and gloom reporting of this pandemic is giving me a pain in the rear. We all know it's bad. If I wanted misery I'd watch the late late show on a friday night.

stephenjmcd

brickster69 wrote: »

New variant arrived

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1354136308847927300

Realistically its been here a while, thousands of variants & mutations in Europe, this is no different. Can't be a surprise to anyone.

caveat emptor

Do you remember the discussion a while back when a doctor dared voice an opinion on the surge plans and he got accused of self promotion etc. Fairly heated debate if I recall. Some speculated that he'd be reprimanded for pissing inside the tent. Looks like he has been silenced anyway......

He is/ probably was a top doctor in tallaght hospital

https://twitter.com/kenfoxe/status/1354066544599445504?s=20

Stateofyou

CrabRevolution wrote: »

Generations of families have coped just fine with months of school interspersed with holidays, what's so special about you that you deserve a break?

I must have missed the part where previous generations of families had both parents with full time jobs and growing cohort of single parent families.

Yeah, people cope just fine with interspersed holidays, so the whole point is to not do away with them.

What do you mean what's special about me, I'm a working parent same as anyone else doing both.