Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

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iamwhoiam wrote: »

They are loosing the people now . I see it all around me , people wont comply until May . They just have had enough

It's been happening for a while now. I don't believe the opinion polls.

Golfman64

Stheno wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1362512810106884098?s=19

That's outrageous. I understand hospitality and group events but to continue to keep Click/collect for non-essential retail, golf, tennis and other already proven safe activities closed is unacceptable and I think they'll lose the room if they continue without some rational nuance.

Plumbthedepths

stephenjmcd wrote: »

While other sources tell other journalists no dates were mentioned.

This is the issue with leaks, its like Chinese whispers

Or in the case of newspapers the most depressing headlines to attract clicks even if the body of text bears little to no relation to the headline.

Sweet.Science

Stheno wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1362512810106884098?s=19

We will have been in a level 5 lockdown for 12 out of 15 months

KrustyUCC

Diabhalta wrote: »

So again no covid checkpoints today. Not even a squad car in sight in Cork. I guess it's level 3 now.

Nice to be able to travel without being harassed.

Cork is a very big county

I got stopped in one checkpoint today

That one is a permanent one that's there every day

I regurgitate the news

iamwhoiam wrote: »

They are loosing the people now . I see it all around me , people wont comply until May . They just have had enough

Seriously, there are so many lockdown fanatics who have not been affected financially that this will go on until they are affected financially.

That is the bottom line. Everybody feels sorry for others only as long as they are not hit financially themselves.

TonyMaloney

hotmail.com wrote: »

It's been happening for a while now. I don't believe the opinion polls.

Maybe. But if compliance is dropping in any sort of meaningful way, it's among people who don't have smartphones.

Those that do are being remarkably compliant.

KrustyUCC

Stheno wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1362512810106884098?s=19

Yes that's possible

It's also possible that such a strategy will lose the compliance of a lot of people along the way

That's 5 months minimum of not seeing friends, family, partners within counties not to mind in other counties

The restrictions might not have changed but a lot of people won't comply for that long imo

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TonyMaloney wrote: »

Maybe. But if compliance is dropping in any sort of meaningful way, it's among people who don't have smartphones.

Those that do are being remarkably compliant.

Most people haven't downloaded the app.

I regurgitate the news

MattS1 wrote: »

They can't run and jump with May ffs! March is too late nevermind May. Absolute morons in charge.

Yeah, Well I'll be planning a few beers and many nights and days craic with mates when the euros are on in the summer. We'll have to identify the snitches and remove them from group chats and let the good times roll. :D:D

KrustyUCC

iamwhoiam wrote: »

They are loosing the people now . I see it all around me , people wont comply until May . They just have had enough

Yup i think so too

So strict restrictions until early May followed by a slow painful careful easing of restrictions after that

2021 is shaping up to be worse than 2020 the way things are going

Kunta Kinte

Diabhalta wrote: »

You live in a level they want you to live. I don't live in any of their levels.

KrustyUCC

hotmail.com wrote: »

Most people haven't downloaded the app.

Tony is on about mobility data

titan18

Fair enough for hospitality to be closed til then but they can go fcuk themselves if they keep hairdressers, gyms, non essential retail closed that long.

iamwhoiam

They have to give a little or they will loose the people
There is no reason not to open click and collect
Do away with the 5 kms stupid nonsense
Let us buy our knickers in Dunnes
Let us meet our family in the garden at very bloody least . We might freeze to death but at least we will have something
Let us bubble up with one other family and that family only .
Give us a bloody break now

bennyl10

Stheno wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1362512810106884098?s=19

I don’t have enough ways to say ‘not a hope in hell is that feasible’

It’s never gonna be followed for that long

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titan18 wrote: »

Fair enough for hospitality to be closed til then but they can go fcuk themselves if they keep hairdressers, gyms, non essential retail closed that long.

So fcuk anyone working in hospitality trying to pay their mortgage and provide for their family?

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iamwhoiam wrote: »

They have to give a little or they will loose the people
There is no reason not to open click and collect
Do away with the 5 kms stupid nonsense
Let us buy our knickers in Dunnes
Let us meet our family in the garden at very bloody least . We might freeze to death but at least we will have something
Let us bubble up with one other family and that family only .
Give us a bloody break now

Can you not already meet your family if you want to?

Most seem to be doing it anyway.

Plumbthedepths

A friend of mine posted a quote on his feed today. I think it is honest and apt.
'We are not all in this together, we are in the same storm together that's all. Some have yachts, some have kayaks others are drowning'.

I consider myself lucky my job is the same now as it was 1 year ago, two years ago and will be the same two years from now. The same cannot be said for 1000's of my fellow citizens and they have my sympathy.

KrustyUCC

iamwhoiam wrote: »

They have to give a little or they will loose the people
There is no reason not to open click and collect
Do away with the 5 kms stupid nonsense
Let us buy our knickers in Dunnes
Let us meet our family in the garden at very bloody least . We might freeze to death but at least we will have something
Let us bubble up with one other family and that family only .
Give us a bloody break now

The only thing there I could see happening is meeting family outdoors unfortunately

If they're delaying construction that will be back before non essential retail

5km nonsense will remain as they have that linked to not being able to evict people

Don't think they would change the bubble system even though that would be great

Keeping very strict restrictions for so long is going to rebound on the government

People are having their fill

iamwhoiam

hotmail.com wrote: »

Can you not already meet your family if you want to?

Most seem to be doing it anyway.

Yeh but they need to allow it . Lots are not and suffering the effects

Plumbthedepths

I regurgitate the news wrote: »

So fcuk anyone working in hospitality trying to pay their mortgage and provide for their family?

It's absolutely shocking the lack of empathy for the plight of others.

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iamwhoiam wrote: »

Yeh but they need to allow it . Lots are not and suffering the effects

True but I wish this lot would make the decision for themselves. If they are miserable and missing family members, then bloody meet them.

titan18

I regurgitate the news wrote: »

So fcuk anyone working in hospitality trying to pay their mortgage and provide for their family?

No, but that's an actual large risk in regards covid spread. The others are not imo

marno21

Level 5 from October 2020 - May 2021 so with a three week reprieve in December. Septic stuff

(I’m in Cork and I’ve been through 25 checkpoints this week. They are still there)

Sweet.Science

hotmail.com wrote: »

True but I wish this lot would make the decision for themselves. If they are miserable and missing family members, then bloody meet them.

Exactly

wadacrack

Whats the alternative open up and hospitals in an even worse position than early January? Compliance is waning as it is so Ro unlikely to stay below 1 with current restrictions. Their seems to be no real answers at the moment which is the problem.

Arghus

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Yes that's possible

It's also possible that such a strategy will lose the compliance of a lot of people along the way

That's 5 months minimum of not seeing friends, family, partners within counties not to mind in other counties

The restrictions might not have changed but a lot of people won't comply for that long imo

But the Catch 22 of the situation is if people don't comply then cases increase and restrictions just go on and on and on indefinitely. People here seem to totally to not take into account that less compliance and more mixing only prolongs the situation by increasing the incidence rate of the virus in the community. Some people on here are in total denial about reality. The situation won't be improved by more people picking the virus up.

It’s not about the government trying to "give something back" - they tried that in December and look where we ended up.

People were sick of restrictions then, but it made no difference, the virus still spread like crazy and we had to shut down all over again with even greater strictness.

"Ah people need to stop complying" - I read that again and again. And what will that prove? All that will happen is more cases, hospitalisations and deaths and further delays to the vaccination programme and a ultimately longer and more damaging period of strict restrictions. It's totally counterproductive.

Doctor Jimbob

Arghus wrote: »

But the Catch 22 of the situation is if people don't comply then cases increase and restrictions just go on and on and on indefinitely. People here seem to totally to not take into account that less compliance and more mixing only prolongs the situation by increasing the incidence rate of the virus in the community.

It’s not about the government trying to "give something back" - they tried that in December and look where we ended up.

People were sick of restrictions then, but it made no difference, the virus still spread like crazy and we had to shut down all over again with even greater strictness.

"Ah people need to stop complying" - I read that again and again. And what will that prove? All that will happen is more cases, hospitalisations and deaths and further delays to the vaccination programme and a ultimately longer and more damaging period of strict restrictions. It's totally counterproductive.

Numbers were going up in December. They're going down now. So why the talk of keeping level 5 restrictions until May?

SEPT 23 1989

New plan with no defined opening dates in correlation to numbers

Won't end well