Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

ginoginelli

Leftwaffe wrote: »

I actually cannot believe Martin has announced another 9 weeks of lockdown via the Mirror. Not enough is being made of this. Utterly shameful act. Zero consideration for people’s mental health.

9 more weeks of this. I cannot live like this for 9 more weeks. How our gov handled this will be seen as a tragedy in the history books.

That's our future unfortunately. Restricted, and in and out of lockdown until the vaccine (hopefully) kicks in.

Or they could decide to do what korea did, and properly control travel, (not just hotel quarantine for some obscure african countries, which we would never get visits from anyway) and also invest heavily in contact tracing, and then let us get back to living.

Our leadership sucks.

Stihl waters

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I don't know why you started your post apologizing to anyone with mental health issues, because the rest of your post demonstrates you clearly don't give a shiny f**k to anyone's mental health. Three words clearly show this 'Suck it up'.

I feel sorry for anyone with genuine mental health concerns who can't access care due to the pandemic,not people upset or sad because they can't go on a sun holiday or a restaurant because they're feeling a little sad

AdamD

Stihl waters wrote: »

I feel sorry for anyone with genuine mental health concerns who can't access care due to the pandemic,not people upset or sad because they can't go on a sun holiday or a restaurant because they're feeling a little sad

If you don't think massive disruptions to people's lives can cause mental health issues because they involve holidays, pubs and restaurants you're nothing short of a moron.

Doctor Jimbob

Stihl waters wrote: »

I feel sorry for anyone with genuine mental health concerns who can't access care due to the pandemic,not people upset or sad because they can't go on a sun holiday or a restaurant because they're feeling a little sad

Yes, because people feeling upset and sad on a regular basis for months doesn't have a negative impact on their mental health.

aziz

BlueSkys102 wrote: »

That just pushed me over the edge! To announce it to the Mirror of all newspapers, no press conference or time to actually explain why they feel another 9 weeks is needed is disgraceful!!!

He is like a troll who didnt want to face the music so left a message instead

It’s like he just broke up with the country by text

“ it’s not me ,it’s you “

Probably still hurting because he don’t get to go to America

Plumbthedepths

Stihl waters wrote: »

I feel sorry for anyone with genuine mental health concerns who can't access care due to the pandemic,not people upset or sad because they can't go on a sun holiday or a restaurant because they're feeling a little sad

If I found myself in a hole of my own making I'd drop the shovel, but that's just me. You carry on though if it makes you feel better. I suspect the irony of accusing others of selfishness would be lost on you.

is_that_so

Stihl waters wrote: »

I feel sorry for anyone with genuine mental health concerns who can't access care due to the pandemic,not people upset or sad because they can't go on a sun holiday or a restaurant because they're feeling a little sad

This looks more like a dismissive judgement, with the word sorry to make it seem like something else. It's really not simplistic extremes. People cannot go anywhere, they can do very few activities apart from get food, they are cheek by jowl with others they may not even like, their kids are sad, they are going crazy themselves and many have not physically seen other family members in months. But yeah all they are really bothered by is the lack of sun holidays and restaurants.

daydorunrun

Stihl waters wrote: »

Apologies upfront to anyone who is suffering with mental health issues and loneliness in all of this but this is a pandemic, its not a cold virus or a mild winter flu, it's a virus that has the potential to cripple health services, care homes and the economy.
I've been reading the whinging crying posts on this with a while and the selfishness displayed is nothing short of scandalous, so what if you're feeling fed up, get over it, you're not being asked to dig a trench in Flanders or being conscripted to go fight for your country, there's no rationing or fear of food shortages or toilet paper, you're being asked to stay within 5 kms of your home for another few months until vaccines come online, you should probably use this time to better yourselves as you'll probably never again see a time where you're being asked to stay at home to do nothing while getting paid, and to the people working from home at least you have a job to do, make the most of it for now
Morons online talking about a 99% survival rate fail to remember it's 99% simply because of lockdown, people pointing out it's mostly the elderly dying are making me think they believe that people over a certain age are disposable as long as they can go out to dinner with friends, young healthy people have little to fear from it but I'd hate for my 65 year old mother recovering from cancer and recently diagnosed with Parkinson's to get it, I can cope for another while without seeing her or sitting down to have dinner with her knowing this will all end once she gets the vaccine.
So again apologies to anyone offended but you know what, suck it up, get motivated and stop the fcukin crying and whinging and self pity and remember you're being asked to stay at home in a warm house with a full fridge and Netflix, get on with it.

By far the most condescending post I've seen on here. I'm all right jack.

Everybody has different home circumstances- try dealing with a 10 yr old who is suffering through this, seeing their personality change, to try and be proactive by seeking out help only to be told there is none because of lockdown.

Your lack of empathy is sickening.

Stihl waters

Stihl waters wrote: »

Apologies upfront to anyone who is suffering with mental health issues and loneliness in all of this but this is a pandemic, its not a cold virus or a mild winter flu, it's a virus that has the potential to cripple health services, care homes and the economy.
I've been reading the whinging crying posts on this with a while and the selfishness displayed is nothing short of scandalous, so what if you're feeling fed up, get over it, you're not being asked to dig a trench in Flanders or being conscripted to go fight for your country, there's no rationing or fear of food shortages or toilet paper, you're being asked to stay within 5 kms of your home for another few months until vaccines come online, you should probably use this time to better yourselves as you'll probably never again see a time where you're being asked to stay at home to do nothing while getting paid, and to the people working from home at least you have a job to do, make the most of it for now
Morons online talking about a 99% survival rate fail to remember it's 99% simply because of lockdown, people pointing out it's mostly the elderly dying are making me think they believe that people over a certain age are disposable as long as they can go out to dinner with friends, young healthy people have little to fear from it but I'd hate for my 65 year old mother recovering from cancer and recently diagnosed with Parkinson's to get it, I can cope for another while without seeing her or sitting down to have dinner with her knowing this will all end once she gets the vaccine.
So again apologies to anyone offended but you know what, suck it up, get motivated and stop the fcukin crying and whinging and self pity and remember you're being asked to stay at home in a warm house with a full fridge and Netflix, get on with it.

To say your post is selfish in the extreme is an understatement. Calling people "morons, whinging and fcukin crying" is actually showing you up to be quite heartless yourself. Everyone is suffering here. You need to see this from more than your own perspective. I am sorry your mother is recovering from cancer and has been diagnosed with Parkinsons, thats very very tough. But there are hundreds of thousands of people dealing with similar stresses.

Whether its a physical illness like cancer, having a child with scoliosis that is now a year waiting for an appointment, a woman who is being beaten or raped in her own home by a violent partner, children who are being given no emotional support in dysfunctional families, people who are completely alone in rural areas and meet nobody, people with sick parents abroad, husbands separated from wives, people battling depression who have lost their lifes work and money in a business that has been forced to close, young parents working from home , trying to home school a few kids, maybe some with severe disabilities..........the list of casualities in this is endless. NOT everyone has a full fridge. Mental illness is as serious as physical illness. 3 bodies have been taken out of the river where I live in the last 3 weeks - one just last night!!

This is a time for kindness and compassion, for trying to understand the position of everyone who is suffering. What I have learnt in life is that everything is relative. There is no point in saying "young people are not being asked to dig a trench in Flanders " that's just rubbish, times are different, you can't compare this to World War 1. This is what it is, here and now. Covid is the biggest trauma a lot of people will have known in their life , especially the longer it goes on.

I lost a child to cancer. For years it almost destroyed me. I thought nobody would understand so I almost isolated myself. Bit by bit I realized I didn't have a monopoly on pain or suffering or loss...... no matter how bad my pain was! Someone who had lost a parent might have the same pain because maybe it was the worst thing that had ever happened to them, or even someone who lost a dog. They had nothing else to measure their pain against. Loss is loss, pain is pain. You don't have a right to dismiss the huge mental anguish these restrictions are causing EVERYONE right now.

I hope your Mum stays safe and well.

is_that_so

Stihl waters wrote: »

Apologies upfront to anyone who is suffering with mental health issues and loneliness in all of this but this is a pandemic, its not a cold virus or a mild winter flu, it's a virus that has the potential to cripple health services, care homes and the economy.
I've been reading the whinging crying posts on this with a while and the selfishness displayed is nothing short of scandalous, so what if you're feeling fed up, get over it, you're not being asked to dig a trench in Flanders or being conscripted to go fight for your country, there's no rationing or fear of food shortages or toilet paper, you're being asked to stay within 5 kms of your home for another few months until vaccines come online, you should probably use this time to better yourselves as you'll probably never again see a time where you're being asked to stay at home to do nothing while getting paid, and to the people working from home at least you have a job to do, make the most of it for now
Morons online talking about a 99% survival rate fail to remember it's 99% simply because of lockdown, people pointing out it's mostly the elderly dying are making me think they believe that people over a certain age are disposable as long as they can go out to dinner with friends, young healthy people have little to fear from it but I'd hate for my 65 year old mother recovering from cancer and recently diagnosed with Parkinson's to get it, I can cope for another while without seeing her or sitting down to have dinner with her knowing this will all end once she gets the vaccine.
So again apologies to anyone offended but you know what, suck it up, get motivated and stop the fcukin crying and whinging and self pity and remember you're being asked to stay at home in a warm house with a full fridge and Netflix, get on with it.

Good to see you can cope and that you know better than anyone else but you are clearly bewildered that everyone is not as enlightened as you. Maybe you can better yourself on that front!

copeyhagen

Father Hernandez wrote: »

Via an exclusive as if it's a massive scoop.

If you see on their website, a lot of these pictures are not just stock imagery.

It was a planned, well thought out interview and photoshoot.

Completely spinless.

horrible smug lizard looking head on him.

mohawk

opinionated3 wrote: »

Travel counts for 0.03% of cases. Hardly the iceberg our Titanic is floundering on.

I personally don’t trust NHPET’s numbers. They do not actually know where most people are picking it up hence why everything is being put down to household transmission.

I don’t know where in country you are but in December early January I never saw as many UK Reg cars as I did this year in county I live. Now if you are type of person to travel in a Pandemic then are you the kind of person who sticks to restrictions?? I would say not. I think it’s very, very likely that the UK variant came into Ireland more than once.

nsnoefc1878

Leftwaffe wrote: »

I actually cannot believe Martin has announced another 9 weeks of lockdown via the Mirror. Not enough is being made of this. Utterly shameful act. Zero consideration for people’s mental health.

9 more weeks of this. I cannot live like this for 9 more weeks. How our gov handled this will be seen as a tragedy in the history books.

Well given Varadker is now editor of the irish times and has that rag sown up, oul Michael had to try a different rag.

nsnoefc1878

is_that_so wrote: »

Way back in March some scientists hypothesised that closing borders etc will only delay the virus by about 3 weeks.

I did not hear that myself.
I think given the relative normality in Australia and New Zealand, that would prove that hypothesis wrong.

is_that_so

nsnoefc1878 wrote: »

Well given Varadker is now editor of the irish times and has that rag sown up, oul Michael had to try a different rag.

Martin has really turned into a Bad News Bear!

SusieBlue

Stihl waters wrote: »

I feel sorry for anyone with genuine mental health concerns who can't access care due to the pandemic,not people upset or sad because they can't go on a sun holiday or a restaurant because they're feeling a little sad

I think people are more upset from the prolonged isolation, loneliness, missing loved ones, having no job, money struggles and worries for the future, their kids missing out on education, and having pretty much everything that makes life worth living and enjoyable taken away from them with no end in sight of when it will return.

If you find sitting in your house indefinitely and not going more than 5k from home with no access to any services or social outlets fulfilling then more power to you.
Not everyone finds that kind of existence sustainable, though.
But don’t kid yourself from your high horse that you are better than anyone is struggling when basically every single coping mechanism for managing mental health issues on a personal level have been withdrawn for almost a year and counting.

Your posts this morning have been absolutely heartless.

iamwhoiam

Stihl waters wrote: »

I feel sorry for anyone with genuine mental health concerns who can't access care due to the pandemic,not people upset or sad because they can't go on a sun holiday or a restaurant because they're feeling a little sad

Right so I will bite . People are perfectly entitled to be anxious , stressed and feel low and hopeless

Peolple who haven’t worked in over a year are struggling big time with money worries
People are at home with children with special needs with no support
People are missing family abroad and crying because they are also sad
People are missing their grandparents and deeply sad because they cannot be with them
People in care homes are over worked , over stretched and mentally worn out trying to be carers but also family to their patients
Families are trying to cope with not visiting their loved ones and hearing them cry on the phone
People are burying their husbands and brothers and sisters and wives with 10 people in a church without the support that a wake and funeral brings
People have not seen or held new born grandchildren or nieces or nephews are this is so upsetting and so unnatural
People are streseed watching young children get quiet and into themselves and struggle with no play time or school or activities
Children are sad and anxious and confused because no one can really explain this to them and they don’t understand


I could go on and on but every human being in our country is perfectly entitled to be depressed or sad or lonely or upset
If you cant feel empathy with their plight then I cant help you

copeyhagen

copeyhagen wrote: »

horrible smug lizard looking head on him.

it used to be that such major restriction warranted a national address on the steps. Now they're as smug as t sit there on a chair in a big oligarch stance telling us 9 more weeks folks..wanker.

funnydoggy

Stihl waters wrote: »

I feel sorry for anyone with genuine mental health concerns who can't access care due to the pandemic,not people upset or sad because they can't go on a sun holiday or a restaurant because they're feeling a little sad

Have been suffering with depression for at least half a decade. Pre-COVID.

It's the lack of physical contact / socialisation (I don't mean drink) that's getting me, even though I'm introverted. That plus the fact that I travel quite a lot.

Both mean a lot to me and both go a long way in keeping me afloat.

Both have been taken away from me and I'm more depressed than ever. I can access care through online therapy or through my GP, but it won't do sh*t if I wake up each morning and am essentially bound to the same footpaths, the same spotify playlist, same weather, same movies, same home environment, same fúcking messages each day from the govt./NPHET. Total groundhog day, mixed with hopelessness.

Thank the lord I have a job. If I found out I was being let go, I don't know what I'd do.

Yep, this post may scream first world problems but everyone is fighting their own battle. Don't make assumptions.

OwenM

Leftwaffe wrote: »

I actually cannot believe Martin has announced another 9 weeks of lockdown via the Mirror. Not enough is being made of this. Utterly shameful act. Zero consideration for people’s mental health.

9 more weeks of this. I cannot live like this for 9 more weeks. How our gov handled this will be seen as a tragedy in the history books.

It's the way Michael Martin, the greatest, most indecisive prevaricator ever to succeed in politics has always operated. He can't make a decision to save his life, his career as a minister is littered with commissioning reports into anything contentious just to kick to touch and avoid responsibility. He can't believe his luck that NPHET are there producing reports on demand and he can wave them at all and sundry.

Announcing it via the mirror is just another way to avoid a decision, it's leaked like this to gauge reaction.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-31005407.html

"He too was accused of being indecisive as a minister, ordering too many reports.
It emerged in 2004 that more than €30m was spent by Martin on 115 reports while he was at the Department of Health.
Martin was accused of wasting millions in taxpayers' money after the figures were confirmed by the Health Minister, Ms Harney."

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/micheal-and-michael-soldiers-of-detox-who-revived-fianna-fail-36479981.html

"former Fianna Fáil minister Pat Carey said of Martin's last term in government: "He can't make a decision, and won't make a decision, and he analyses everything to the point of almost having to bring in a consultant to analyse his analysis.""

is_that_so

funnydoggy wrote: »

Have been suffering with depression for at least half a decade. Pre-COVID.

It's the lack of physical contact / socialisation (I don't mean drink) that's getting me, even though I'm introverted. That plus the fact that I travel quite a lot.

Both mean a lot to me and both go a long way in keeping me afloat. Both have been taken away from me and I'm more depressed than ever. I can access care through online therapy or through my GP, but it won't do sh*t if I wake up each morning and am essentially bound to the same footpaths, the same spotify playlist, same weather, same movies, same fúcking messages each day from the govt./NPHET. Total groundhog day, mixed with hopelessness.


Don't make assumptions.

Change the playlist!

jams100

Stihl waters wrote: »

Apologies upfront to anyone who is suffering with mental health issues and loneliness in all of this but this is a pandemic, its not a cold virus or a mild winter flu, it's a virus that has the potential to cripple health services, care homes and the economy.
I've been reading the whinging crying posts on this with a while and the selfishness displayed is nothing short of scandalous, so what if you're feeling fed up, get over it, you're not being asked to dig a trench in Flanders or being conscripted to go fight for your country, there's no rationing or fear of food shortages or toilet paper, you're being asked to stay within 5 kms of your home for another few months until vaccines come online, you should probably use this time to better yourselves as you'll probably never again see a time where you're being asked to stay at home to do nothing while getting paid, and to the people working from home at least you have a job to do, make the most of it for now
Morons online talking about a 99% survival rate fail to remember it's 99% simply because of lockdown, people pointing out it's mostly the elderly dying are making me think they believe that people over a certain age are disposable as long as they can go out to dinner with friends, young healthy people have little to fear from it but I'd hate for my 65 year old mother recovering from cancer and recently diagnosed with Parkinson's to get it, I can cope for another while without seeing her or sitting down to have dinner with her knowing this will all end once she gets the vaccine.
So again apologies to anyone offended but you know what, suck it up, get motivated and stop the fcukin crying and whinging and self pity and remember you're being asked to stay at home in a warm house with a full fridge and Netflix, get on with it.

Firstly best of luck to your mam.

Secondly, we can't just stay locked down indefinitely, so to your point if/when another varient comes along in May/June then what is your plan, continue lockdown?

Serious question: to all the people who justify these continuous lockdowns at what point do you say enough is enough? 2021, 2022, 2023, Never? At some point there has to be a balance between quality of life and life itself and that doesn't mean sacrificing all older people it just means keeping closed all the sectors that are significantly adding to the spread of the virus.

funnydoggy

is_that_so wrote: »

Change the playlist!

I just found the Tommy, Hector & Laurita Podcast. Very funny!

lee_baby_simms

Multipass wrote: »

I’m all right Jack. Why can’t you peasants all just watch Netflix

Its a very common viewpoint sadly. "I've made a personal decision to ignore the grey areas and complexities of life caused by things mass unemployment and degradation of mental health. People struggling are a burden and an inconvenience to me...so everyone should follow my lead because its the path of least resistance."

funnydoggy

Leftwaffe wrote: »

I actually cannot believe Martin has announced another 9 weeks of lockdown via the Mirror. Not enough is being made of this. Utterly shameful act. Zero consideration for people’s mental health.

9 more weeks of this. I cannot live like this for 9 more weeks. How our gov handled this will be seen as a tragedy in the history books.

I just hope we won't be voting the same shower of c*nts in again in the next GE.

Timmy O Toole

The clamp down on travel is to stop us getting out rather than people coming in. They know NI is going to open for business while we still have the strictest lockdown in the world.

aziz

funnydoggy wrote: »

I just hope we won't be voting the same shower of c*nts in again in the next GE.

Bring it on,the sooner the better

shamco

We didnt vote them in in the first place. It was just the vagaries of the system that allowed a leader of the party that came third in the poll to become taoiseach

funnydoggy

funnydoggy wrote: »

I just hope we won't be voting the same shower of c*nts in again in the next GE.

All other parties would have acted in exactly the same manner.

They are basically all competing with one another for who can offer the most restrictions.

funnydoggy

Deleted User wrote: »

All other parties would have acted in exactly the same manner.

They are basically all competing with one another for who can offer the most restrictions.

I'm not against restrictions so that's not why I am angry, but blanket restrictions that get prolonged without communication is why I want a new government in power.


If all the parties would have done the exact same thing then screw it, we need new parties to run.