Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

Sanjuro

Sweet.Science wrote: »

They are travelling over to work and staying in cramped accomodation

Honestly do people really think a variant isn't going to come along that evades vaccines

Naive

Tweaking vaccines isn't sustainable either

Your name is an oxymoron.

Sweet.Science

Sanjuro wrote: »

Your name is an oxymoron.

And here they come . We will have same conversations in 2022 .

SleetAndSnow

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

They have been talking about the hotel quarantine for about a month. And it's still not done.
Just lock everything down again instead.

I've generally been very non-opinionated on the covid restrictions etc as people know from this thread and the Cork Covid thread, and I follow them etc, but this new variant coming in, which could have easily been prevented... its the straw that broke the camels back for me this. Incompetent Government drawing everything out while not enforcing the proper areas.

alexonhisown

Labaik wrote: »

1500 arrived 2 weeks ago without any checks.

And no offence but they should not have been allowed to enter till the quarantine hotels are in operation.

Kivaro

Kivaro wrote: »

Otherwise, it's a one rule for them and one rule for the rest of us.

In the Mall in Longford, African youths have been allowed to use the astro facilities in the last week or so.

Dunno if it's actually being hired out to them, or the guards are turning a blind eye to entry being gained by irregular means, but on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday this week, and Thursday and Friday last week, there were five-a-side games happening there.

Labaik

alexonhisown wrote: »

And no offence but they should not have been allowed to enter till the quarantine hotels are in operation.

Of course. Its infuriating how bad this has been handled.

Vicxas

Whats the lowdown on the Brazilian variant? Or is there very little data on it?

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3678293562292377&id=100003353092989

Is this legit, it appears to be

Guarantee i will be called racist

Stihl waters

Deleted User wrote: »

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3678293562292377&id=100003353092989

Is this legit, it appears to be

Guarantee i will be called racist

Good enough for them if they get it, hopefully they dont mix with the law abiding people too much to pass it on, guards shouldn't be letting this sort of thing happen tho

TonyMaloney

Sanjuro wrote: »

Your name is an oxymoron.

"Sweet science" is a phrase from the world of boxing.

It was coined by someone who doesn't understand what science is

Stihl waters

Stihl waters wrote: »

But does it really matter if they get it, if they want to congregate and pray then tough titty if they end up with it, guards shouldn't be letting this sort of thing happen tho

Really? Am I reading this right? Do they go to isolated shops? Do they completely not mix with non Muslims, this is a mad response

SleetAndSnow

Vicxas wrote: »

Whats the lowdown on the Brazilian variant? Or is there very little data on it?

It has the E484K mutation as well as the N501Y mutation, both of which are found in the UK and South african variant, along with 10 other mutations on the spike protein according to what I saw online.

The main concern seems to be that it became widespread in a village in Brazil and managed to collapse their healthcare system, the village already had a massive outbreak a few months before and anti-body tests showed a high number of the population having antibodies already (apparently around 76%?) so it seems to be able to evade them quite efficiently if it is left to spread. <---- Highly open to correction this is just from Googling!

Edit: Apparently the 76% figure was debunked! Thanks!

alexonhisown

Stihl waters wrote: »

But does it really matter if they get it, if they want to congregate and pray then tough titty if they end up with it, guards shouldn't be letting this sort of thing happen tho

Thats a strange way of thinking “does it really matter if they get it”
eh yeah it matters, what if they are doctors, nurses, work in a food establishment, work in the corner shop etc. They dont all just go straight home and sit there till next fridays prayers.

Jinglejangle69

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

It has the E484K mutation as well as the N501Y mutation, both of which are found in the UK and South african variant, along with 10 other mutations on the spike protein according to what I saw online.

The main concern seems to be that it became widespread in a village in Brazil and managed to collapse their healthcare system, the village already had a massive outbreak and anti-body tests showed a high number of the population having antibodies already so it seems to be able to evade them quite efficiently if it is left to spread. <---- Highly open to correction this is just from Googling!

So the vaccines are useless.

Great.

Azatadine

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

So the vaccines are useless.

Great.

Nope. Not true.

SleetAndSnow

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

So the vaccines are useless.

Great.

Not necessarily, if its similar to the SA strain then the vaccines, while possibly less efficient, still work at around 64% efficacy, which is still above the flu vaccine... And Pfizer and Moderna are already working on updating the vaccine for these variants... Gotta try and see hope somewhere... right?

agoodpunt

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

If only there was some sort of mandatory hotel quarantine.. oh wait.. its just not implemented!

Yes theres the 14 day house quarantine "by law" but who knows what these people have been doing. Hopefully they tell the truth and have actually been staying at home!

fu kcing test them we let them in, we want to keep airline slots or shut down airport become a waste land

How about tackling local outbreaks short lockdowns mass testing and contact tracing being done in other countries with bigger pops as an ordered response.




instead we just endlessly lockdown everyone and businesses BS

Jinglejangle69

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

So the vaccines are useless.

Great.

There are people on this forum who get down on their knees every morning and evening to pray to every god they can think of for a variant which can defeat the vaccine.

They will be disappointed, because science will always prevail.

SleetAndSnow

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

It has the E484K mutation as well as the N501Y mutation, both of which are found in the UK and South african variant, along with 10 other mutations on the spike protein according to what I saw online.

The main concern seems to be that it became widespread in a village in Brazil and managed to collapse their healthcare system, the village already had a massive outbreak a few months before and anti-body tests showed a high number of the population having antibodies already (apparently around 76%?) so it seems to be able to evade them quite efficiently if it is left to spread. <---- Highly open to correction this is just from Googling!

That was Manaus. That study was junk. It was based on blood donations. It greatly overestimated the seroprevelance. It was never that high.

Stihl waters

Deleted User wrote: »

Really? Am I reading this right? Do they go to isolated shops? Do they completely not mix with non Muslims, this is a mad response

Yes, you're not reading it right, what I meant is guards should take action and if they get it they've only themselves to blame, you can only go so far with retards of this magnitude, maybe I didn't make my post clear enough, I'll edit to clarify

agoodpunt

agoodpunt wrote: »

fu kcing test them we let them in, we want to keep airline slots or shut down airport become a waste land

How about tackling local outbreaks short lockdowns mass testing and contact tracing being done in other countries with bigger pops as an ordered response.




instead we just endlessly lockdown everyone and businesses BS

Like TB, I agree, however the more variants there is the more worrying long term it will be.

Will we all agree to no more life like 2019, no pubs like we knew it, thats the solution of opening up. To allow this to prevail without lockdown then its masks and social distance for life. That I reply to NP THANKS.

Imagine this being a new reality, it would be depressing as ****

TonyMaloney

People say I'm negative, but if our current extremely transmissible strain is more transmissible than any newly imported strain, then our current horrible variant that's ruining all of our lives will dominate the newcomer and cocoon us all in this dreadful void for an eternity.

Stihl waters

Stihl waters wrote: »

Yes, you're not reading it right, what I meant is guards should take action and if they get it they've only themselves to blame, you can only go so far with retards of this magnitude, maybe I didn't make my post clear enough, I'll edit to clarify

Grand so, I thought you meant otherwise.

nocoverart

b0nk1e wrote: »

There are people on this forum who get down on their knees every morning and evening to pray to every god they can think of for a variant which can defeat the vaccine.

They will be disappointed, because science will always prevail.

I scroll through this thread for a laugh and go to the Vaccine thread for some real information.

Sweet.Science

Sweet.Science wrote: »

And here they come . We will have same conversations in 2022 .

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=113621880&postcount=1628

TonyMaloney

nocoverart wrote: »

I scroll through this thread for a laugh and go to the Vaccine thread for some real information.

Well aren't you a person of refined taste.

I dabble in the Sweden thread but it's not for me.

TonyMaloney

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Well aren't you a person of refined taste.

I dabble in the Sweden thread but it's not for me.

First to blame the government and shout SF

Jim_Hodge

b0nk1e wrote: »

There are people on this forum who get down on their knees every morning and evening to pray to every god they can think of for a variant which can defeat the vaccine.

Would you have some cop on? What universe are you living in? Absolutely absurd notion.

robbiezero

Stihl waters wrote: »

Good enough for them if they get it, hopefully they dont mix with the law abiding people too much to pass it on, guards shouldn't be letting this sort of thing happen tho

If we could somehow persuade those people to walk alone on a beach, then maybe the Guards could take action.

TonyMaloney

TonyMaloney wrote: »

People say I'm negative, but if our current extremely transmissible strain is more transmissible than any newly imported strain, then our current horrible variant that's ruining all of our lives will dominate the newcomer and cocoon us all in this dreadful void for an eternity.

Not really. We know the vaccines work against the UK variant. Look at Israel for proof. If it's able to dominate the other variants and prevent them taking over that's actually a good thing.