Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

Ficheall

brick tamland wrote: »

Tony using the 14 day ago here to scare people. I'd be nice just for a change to say how well its going. Numbers dropping really fast yet he searches for a stat to scare people. RTE will use it to spread more misery later no doubt instead of using 5 or 7 day.

What would you have used? 7 day is still more than 50% higher than its peak in October. 3-day average is also higher. The numbers are falling, yes, but they're still pretty sh*t. I presume Tony is trying to discourage people from letting their guard down just because we're now only at "bad" instead of "very bad".

Eod100

That lad is a bit tapped or something..

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1354536793069277184

Ficheall

Israel seems to be consistently vaccinating about 2% of its population every day now, so hopefully in about 6-8 weeks we'll see them with feck all cases.. As opposed to ~7k a day now.. Dunno how non-vaccination of infected people will affect things; presumably they'll have a similar level of immunity.

Malcomex

Eod100 wrote: »

That lad is a bit tapped or something..

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1354536793069277184

Attention seeker

Eod100

Malcomex wrote: »

Attention seeker

Yup but why want attention to show you're a complete gobs*ite?!

Eod100

Eod100 wrote: »

Yup but why want attention to show you're a complete gobs*ite?!

Oscar Wilde — 'There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.'

mcburns07

Eod100 wrote: »

Yup but why want attention to show you're a complete gobs*ite?!

Because a lot of people will lap it up Donald Trump says hi.

Eod100

mcburns07 wrote: »

Because a lot of people will lap it up Donald Trump says hi.

Thought Donald would be saying Bye-den

DebDynamite

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1354515802775547906

So 1 in 10 arrivals from Brazil test positive, and that’s just out of the numbers who came forward for testing after a call was put out for all recent arrivals to get tested. Out of 1,900 passengers, only 604 came forward for testing, with 52 testing positive. You would imagine those who heeded the advice and got tested would be more compliant with restrictions than those who did not come forward, so I would imagine the percentage of positives in that cohort would be more than 1 in 10. How many of those then that went back to shared accommodation, or went straight into their job without quarantining...? And they’re not just positive cases, they could be carrying the Brazilian variant...

The regulations around travel have been an utter shambles. No wonder we’re in the mess we’re in.

DebDynamite

DebDynamite wrote: »

So 1 in 10 arrivals from Brazil test positive, and that’s just out of the numbers who came forward for testing after a call was put out for all recent arrivals to get tested. Out of 1,900 passengers, only 604 came forward for testing, with 52 testing positive. You would imagine those who heeded the advice and got tested would be more compliant with restrictions than those who did not come forward, so I would imagine the percentage of positives in that cohort would be more than 1 in 10. How many of those then that went back to shared accommodation, or went straight into their job without quarantining...? And they’re not just positive carses, they could be carrying the Brazilian variant...

The regulations around travel have been an utter shambles. No wonder we’re in the mess we’re in.

Maybe people who came forward for testing were more likely to have symptoms

Captain Pillowcase

Eod100 wrote: »

That lad is a bit tapped or something..

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1354536793069277184

Marc would be best to follow the advice of another Mark

It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt - Mark Twain

In fact I think there are some currently in Leinster House who should have this installed in their offices on rather large plaques

DebDynamite

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Maybe people who came forward for testing were more likely to have symptoms

How many more were asymptomatic then if those had symptoms? Having 1 in 10 passengers coming from a high risk area with a dangerous variant and just letting them go about their business before putting a call out for testing, which the vast majority ignored, is reckless.

Spanish Eyes

DebDynamite wrote: »

So 1 in 10 arrivals from Brazil test positive, and that’s just out of the numbers who came forward for testing after a call was put out for all recent arrivals to get tested. Out of 1,900 passengers, only 604 came forward for testing, with 52 testing positive. You would imagine those who heeded the advice and got tested would be more compliant with restrictions than those who did not come forward, so I would imagine the percentage of positives in that cohort would be more than 1 in 10. How many of those then that went back to shared accommodation, or went straight into their job without quarantining...? And they’re not just positive cases, they could be carrying the Brazilian variant...

The regulations around travel have been an utter shambles. No wonder we’re in the mess we’re in.

Agreed. Seems to me the Gov were terrified of upsetting the Free Movement thing or upsetting anyone wishing to come here in the first place as a visitor/worker etc. Everyone knew travel was a big vector, heck how did the virus travel all over the world in such a short space of time anyhow?

There is a thread in the Coronavirus section here labelled

"Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?" (too lazy to figure out how to link it sorry) that was started in June last year

I'm observing the rules best I can but this travel issue is and was the elephant in the room.

DebDynamite

DebDynamite wrote: »

How many more were asymptomatic then if those had symptoms? Having 1 in 10 passengers coming from a high risk area with a dangerous variant and just letting them go about their business before putting a call out for testing, which the vast majority ignored, is reckless.

It's worse than that.

Brazilians in Ireland are all over social media openly having parties with very large groups of people.

It's enough to make you sick.

They have effectively become a fifth column of COVID-19 in Ireland.

AdamD

Eod100 wrote: »

That lad is a bit tapped or something..

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1354536793069277184

He's clearly exagerrating for effect when posing the question - is the Russian vaccine being considered?

Which in itself isn't a bad question. Also probably looking for attention, the clickbait version political behaviour

alexonhisown

DebDynamite wrote: »

So 1 in 10 arrivals from Brazil test positive, and that’s just out of the numbers who came forward for testing after a call was put out for all recent arrivals to get tested. Out of 1,900 passengers, only 604 came forward for testing, with 52 testing positive. You would imagine those who heeded the advice and got tested would be more compliant with restrictions than those who did not come forward, so I would imagine the percentage of positives in that cohort would be more than 1 in 10. How many of those then that went back to shared accommodation, or went straight into their job without quarantining...? And they’re not just positive cases, they could be carrying the Brazilian variant...

The regulations around travel have been an utter shambles. No wonder we’re in the mess we’re in.

Why cant it be stated when they apply for a visa to come here that its mandatory to have a test after arrival and if they dont, they are deported.

SEPT 23 1989

Any good reason why even one Brazilian should arrive in the country at this time?

SEPT 23 1989

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Any good reason why even one Brazilian should arrive in the country at this time?

Not one should be arriving.

The borders should be completely closed to both Brazil and Portugal - and any Brazilian that attempts to enter Ireland through any other route whose source was Brazil.

DebDynamite

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's worse than that.

Brazilians in Ireland are all over social media openly having parties with very large groups of people.

It's enough to make you sick.

They have effectively become a fifth column of COVID-19 in Ireland.

And don’t forget, they were all required to produce a negative PCR test upon arrival anyway, but just didn’t bother. Even after that, they were just let off on their way.

DebDynamite

alexonhisown wrote: »

Why cant it be stated when they apply for a visa to come here that its mandatory to have a test after arrival and if they dont, they are deported.

A lot of them probably don’t need a visa. Many of them have a Portuguese passport, so have visa-free entry into the EU.

alexonhisown

DebDynamite wrote: »

And don’t forget, they were all required to produce a negative PCR test upon arrival, but just didn’t bother. Even after that, they were just let off on their way.

Dont upset me by telling me some didnt have a pcr test results on arrival but were allowed enter anyway? Hmmm joke of a government

Happydays2020

DebDynamite wrote: »

A lot of them probably don’t need a visa. Many of them have a Portuguese passport, so have visa-free entry into the EU.

A lot of them? Many of them?

DebDynamite

alexonhisown wrote: »

Dont upset me by telling me some didnt have a pcr test results on arrival but were allowed enter anyway? Hmmm joke of a government

Apparently some files are being prepared for the DPP, but it’s too late by then!

DebDynamite

Happydays2020 wrote: »

A lot of them? Many of them?

A good few that I’ve met anyway.

daydorunrun

Lots of talk about variant's and new strains being used to stoke fear. It may be true but there has been little info published on it- everything seems very anecdotal.

Matt Handcock in the UK said they had a higher mortality rate but it seems we'll just have to take his word for it. It's strange and worrying that here we are 12 months in and things are getting worse instead of better in relation to lockdowns and restrictions even with vaccine rollout. I hate the term 'New Normal' as nothing about the way we live today is normal, if it continues like this into next year we may have to accept it as normal.

tom1ie

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That actually can’t happen with RORO freight. We don’t have enough trucks or drivers this side of the Irish Sea, we don’t have the space, and it would slow things down so much that freight forwarders would not be bothered with the hassle of organising Ireland deliveries. Our shelves would be bare in no time.

The best we can do for freight is testing (rapid testing at that) which would mean that cases leak through, and even if we as a nation had hit zero Covid after months of lockdown and border quarantine we would have to keep locking down as the authorities trace infections that have leaked through the border. Australia still experiences imports of virus even though theoretically every possible source of virus is quarantined for 14 days. We would have nowhere near that level of control, and so our lockdowns would be many times what they have to do

(And the UK have announced their plans and it is only mandatory quarantine for those from high risk countries. Everyone else heads home)

Yeah I agree with you that rapid testing of drivers will have to be done.
However capacity needs to be built up at our ports to accommodate roro trailers being brought in to ports, more drivers for within Ireland can always be got, this gives us a parallel way of moving freight along with drivers having to leave Irish shores to collect freight.

sonofenoch

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Any good reason why even one Brazilian should arrive in the country at this time?

Why are they over here at anytime.......travel halfway cross the world to deliver takeaways by bicycle

MerlinSouthDub

Hospital report is out

1598 in hospital (nice drop from 1689 last night)
211 in ICU (down from 215 last night, sadly 5 deaths)

sonofenoch

sonofenoch wrote: »

Why are they over here at anytime.......travel halfway cross the world to deliver takeaways by bicycle

Very narrow minded and frankly clueless. Plenty of them working in professional roles aswell.

jam_mac_jam

sonofenoch wrote: »

Why are they over here at anytime.......travel halfway cross the world to deliver takeaways by bicycle

Why is that anything to do with Coronavirus?