Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

Quantum Baloney

majcos wrote: »

There is no scientific evidence that the vaccine affects fertility. To use the word sterilization is dramatic.

Sorry, what I meant was that there does not seem to be sufficient clarity on whether the vaccine 'sterilises' the virus so as to make it non-transferable. Poor choice of words maybe.

Otherwise I think your post, set in those terms, would do a good job of arguing the case for mass uptake, supposing that some of the finer points regarding the efficacy or risk factor (if any) of the vaccine were addressed by the government with a bit more resourcefulness. After all, at the end of the day you are asking people to be injected with a foreign substance for which there are no long term studies.

wadacrack

El Sueño wrote: »

The safety data is there, hence no excuse for not taking it. Simple as that.

Just my opinion though obviously

Germany not recommending AstraZeneca for people over 65 . Broad statements like this are just nor true

Is the AstraZeneca vaccine not a bit sh*t?

The Inbetween is mine

1254 cases & 48 deaths today

jackboy

wadacrack wrote: »

Germany not recommending AstraZeneca for people over 65 . Broad statements like this are just nor true

That’s due to concerns over efficacy rather than safety. Those concerns are largely based on lack of date rather than strong evidence that it is not efficacious for that age.

JP Liz V1

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1355205916845551622

Gael23

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1355205916845551622

What do you expect when you tell people to stay at home!

Amirani

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1355205916845551622

This statistic feels sort of meaningless I think.

Falls in hospitals, nursing homes and residential institutions much more impactful.

Leitrim is effectively covid free they are <5 every day.

JP Liz V1

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

1254 cases & 48 deaths today

437 in Dublin, 146 in Cork, 76 in Meath, 69 in Wexford, 62 in Kildare

froog

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1355205916845551622

that reads to me like people are getting it in workplaces and bringing it home.

poppers

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1355205916845551622

9 in school???? how they have been closed for over a month at this stage.

wadacrack

Do today's numbers include testing of close contacts ?

Turtwig

wadacrack wrote: »

Do today's numbers include testing of close contacts ?

No. Testing of close contacts only resumed today.

ruth123456

What happens to fines collected by guards?

Malcomex

ruth123456 wrote: »

What happens to fines collected by guards?

Incinerated

JP Liz V1

ruth123456 wrote: »

What happens to fines collected by guards?

Paying for FF and FG PR

Van.Bosch

ruth123456 wrote: »

What happens to fines collected by guards?

2022 Christmas party!

Real Donald Trump

ruth123456 wrote: »

What happens to fines collected by guards?

They use it to buy dance shoes.

GeorgeBailey

ruth123456 wrote: »

What happens to fines collected by guards?

It'll be offered to Astrazeneca to see if we can get this vaccine party restarted. Essentially the people breaking rules are patriots.

majcos

Quantum Baloney wrote: »

Sorry, what I meant was that there does not seem to be sufficient clarity on whether the vaccine 'sterilises' the virus so as to make it non-transferable. Poor choice of words maybe.

Otherwise I think your post, set in those terms, would do a good job of arguing the case for mass uptake, supposing that some of the finer points regarding the efficacy or risk factor (if any) of the vaccine were addressed by the government with a bit more resourcefulness. After all, at the end of the day you are asking people to be injected with a foreign substance for which there are no long term studies.

Yes. I see now what your intent was with the use of the word sterlisation. I have heard so many discuss the issue of fertility as a reason not to take the vaccine that I misunderstood your meaning.

You are correct that the vaccine has not eliminated infection or sterilised the nasal passages to completely stop those vaccinated from carrying the virus. It has however reduced symptoms and there is some data to suggest that although those who are asymptomatic can still infect others that they do so at a lower rate. At a very simple level, if coughing less that might be helpful in reducing spread. Those who have more serious infections may have a higher viral load so those who are vaccinated may transmit less.

Of course, it could be the case that those vaccinated don’t have symptoms so they don’t know they have the disease so they are less likely to isolate so transmission is increased. It will become clearer as time passes but in the meantime, maintaining social distance and mask wearing as much as possible should still be done.

Maybe wishful thinking, but I remain hopeful based on the early results from initial studies and from Israel that vaccines will reduce transmission even if they don’t eliminate it entirely.

Sierra Oscar

ruth123456 wrote: »

What happens to fines collected by guards?

Paid into the exchequer via the Department of Environment, Climate and Communications.

Storm 10

Big rise in Wexford following 200 at a funeral last week no masks or social distance

Deeper Blue

wadacrack wrote: »

Germany not recommending AstraZeneca for people over 65 . Broad statements like this are just nor true

The German recommendation has nothing to do with safety

Deeper Blue

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is the AstraZeneca vaccine not a bit sh*t?

Nobody that took it in the trials ended up in hospital, it's an excellent option despite the sensationalist twitter/tabloid waffle

The_Brood

Storm 10 wrote: »

Big rise in Wexford following 200 at a funeral last week no masks or social distance

No punishment and no enforcement as well. And Tony will wag his finger again and say all of us are responsible; Meehoe and Leo will prolong the shutdown for longer, and the country continues plunging into new depths of turds while the happy clappers say all is well.

KrustyUCC

Tony being somewhat positive on RTE *shocked*

JP Liz V1

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Ficheall

El Sueño wrote: »

Nobody that took it in the trials ended up in hospital, it's an excellent option despite the sensationalist twitter/tabloid waffle

The trials weren't on older people (i.e., those most susceptible to the disease) though, right?

appledrop

Storm 10 wrote: »

Big rise in Wexford following 200 at a funeral last week no masks or social distance

Irish independent also have an article with consultant from Wexford General hospitial noting that some Covid positive patients in the hospitual were refusing to stay in their designated areas/ rooms in hospitial and wandering all around hospitial.

Guards also had to be called on one occasion.

Mad stuff altogether.