Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

Morries Wigs

so we are led to believe the numbers today and friday are exactly the same 1247 -are these numbers made up or what ?

hotmail.com

Stephen Donnelly moves from trampolines to thumbs up.

How much more of this minister can this country take?

runawaybishop

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Remember, not a single member of the cabinet is a penny poorer because of Covid, and never will be, save for the odd one who may be having more difficulty renting one of their properties out.

This is such a lazy argument. All the cabinet have friends and family that are being negatively impacted by this.

runawaybishop

Morries Wigs wrote: »

so we are led to believe the numbers today and friday are exactly the same 1247 -are these numbers made up or what ?

Huh? This makes no sense. Of course sometimes some days will have the same deaths or cases.

tigger123

Morries Wigs wrote: »

so we are led to believe the numbers today and friday are exactly the same 1247 -are these numbers made up or what ?

If they were making up numbers, it wouldn't be too difficult to make up different ones.

Larbre34

Load of stupid nonsense being spouted on here.

The only reason we have had such a bleak January is because, as a nation, as a people, we were stupid and selfish at Christmas.

The Government recommended limiting travel, limiting mixing, limiting numbers gathering, distancing when they did and ventilating homes. How much of that was followed? Apparently **** all.

And what would have happened if the Government had banned /made illegal all travel, mixing, shopping, hospitality before Christmas. That would've been ignored too, at least ignored enough to matter.

This course of this virus is not the fault of our Government or most Governments in most Countries, its down to the willingness of citizens to take responsibility for their own actions, or not.

There is, of course, that pervasive sense of entitlement you see in the World now, an individuality that sees themself as exempt, as exceptional, that they can do what they want to do and there'll always be someone handy to blame when stuff goes badly.

Well, any of you who approach this crisis like that, or who blame the Government for all the problems, well you're the reason so many of your Countrymen are dead when they don't need to be. Simple as.

mcburns07

Larbre34 wrote: »

Load of stupid nonsense being spouted on here.

The only reason we have had such a bleak January is because, as a nation, as a people, we were stupid and selfish at Christmas.

The Government recommended limiting travel, limiting mixing, limiting numbers gathering, distancing when they did and ventilating homes. How much of that was followed? Apparently **** all.

And what would have happened if the Government had banned /made illegal all travel, mixing, shopping, hospitality before Christmas. That would've been ignored too, at least ignored enough to matter.

This course of this virus is not the fault of our Government or most Governments in most Countries, its down to the willingness of citizens to take responsibility for their own actions, or not.

There is, of course, that pervasive sense of entitlement you see in the World now, an individuality that sees themself as exempt, as exceptional, that they can do what they want to do and there'll always be someone handy to blame when stuff goes badly.

Well, any of you who approach this crisis like that, or who blame the Government for all the problems, well you're the reason so many of your Countrymen are dead when they don't need to be. Simple as.

This is 100% true, but it's also true the government made quite a few mistakes.

cannotlogin

Larbre34 wrote: »

Load of stupid nonsense being spouted on here.

The only reason we have had such a bleak January is because, as a nation, as a people, we were stupid and selfish at Christmas. /quote]



Well at least you flagged your post correctly in the opening line!

This really annoys me not everyone was stupid or selfish at Christmas. The vast majority of people I know weren't. A lot didn't see their parents or isolated for 14 days before doing so. A lot of people didn't step foot in a pub or restaurant over Christmas but they still have to put up with the same **** as the selfish cohort who did.

spookwoman

Larbre34

You can put whatever narrative you like on it, but the reality is, enough people didn't make enough good choices over Christmas, such that we've had 100,000 new cases and 1,000 deaths in 31 days.

Thats a lot of bad choices.

BorneTobyWilde

https://twitter.com/captaintommoore/status/1355924707816726532

How was he not the first person vaccinated. Sad

pottokblue

Hoping Sir Captain Tom Moore pulls through...

Jim_Hodge

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/captaintommoore/status/1355924707816726532

How was he not the first person vaccinated. Sad

The fact that he has been unwell for the past few weeks would have excluded him for a start. Though he may well have gotten his first jab.

BorneTobyWilde

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

The fact that he has been unwell for the past few weeks would have excluded him for a start. Though he may well have gotten his first jab.

He was unwell with Covid it turns out . Had All the signs, sounds like a right royal fck up .

Eod100

Wonder was the EU stuff with A16 the EU trying to flex their muscles which went too far so. Least some more vaccines will be distributed

https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1355942468001411072

aziz

cannotlogin wrote: »

Larbre34 wrote: »

Load of stupid nonsense being spouted on here.

The only reason we have had such a bleak January is because, as a nation, as a people, we were stupid and selfish at Christmas. /quote]



Well at least you flagged your post correctly in the opening line!

This really annoys me not everyone was stupid or selfish at Christmas. The vast majority of people I know weren't. A lot didn't see their parents or isolated for 14 days before doing so. A lot of people didn't step foot in a pub or restaurant over Christmas but they still have to put up with the same **** as the selfish cohort who did.

It’s like the recession all over again


“We all partied “

Does anyone know how many people under 35-years of old have died of COVID-19 throughout the entire pandemic?

Bit cynical

Larbre34 wrote: »

You can put whatever narrative you like on it, but the reality is, enough people didn't make enough good choices over Christmas, such that we've had 100,000 new cases and 1,000 deaths in 31 days.

Thats a lot of bad choices.

On the other hand it is probably unrealistic to expect otherwise. The more you keep people in, the more they are going to want to go out and mix on the few occasions you allow. I remember someone (I think it was a behavioral scientist) on the radio early on say that six months is about the maximum you can expect people to voluntarily alter their behavior before reverting back to old habits.

Malcomex

Larbre34 wrote: »

You can put whatever narrative you like on it, but the reality is, enough people didn't make enough good choices over Christmas, such that we've had 100,000 new cases and 1,000 deaths in 31 days.

Thats a lot of bad choices.

Drama much

There's no way way covid actually killed 1000 people of itself in 31 days

normanoffside

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/captaintommoore/status/1355924707816726532

How was he not the first person vaccinated. Sad

He was on holidays in Barbados

https://twitter.com/captaintommoore/status/1339979793954189312

caveat emptor

aziz wrote: »

cannotlogin wrote: »

It’s like the recession all over again


“We all partied “

They can't say we all played golf that would be too far fetched I suppose.

"It's your fault big Phil got sacked"

Beechwoodspark

normanoffside wrote: »

He was on holidays in Barbados

https://twitter.com/captaintommoore/status/1339979793954189312

My word. His family took him to Barbados?

spookwoman

josip wrote: »

Many of those hospitals showing 0 available would only have 3, 4 or 5 ICU beds available to start with.

https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/cspd/ncps/critical-care/critical-care-capacity-planning/national-adult-critical-care-capacity-census-2019-report.pdf

I know, now those beds are being taken up with covid patients. It's why it is so important to follow the restricting and advice. This is fallout from christmas and I know government eased the restrictions, it was not an order to go out and mingle.

Icantthinkof1 wrote: »

CUH is the centre of excellence for cardiac care which could be why they would be transferred/ advised to go there from neighbouring Counties
I would imagine if it were an emergency they should have be treated in their own counties hospital and perhaps then transferred if/ when stable which should have been the case for that poor wo/man

That case was a 40 year old man, torn heart muscle and surgery that is only available in 3 hospitals would have saved his life. One of the hospitals is CUH.

I don't know the full story of what happened the night I was in but it might have been a case of ambulance not available there and then to transfer and it may have been just starting, just speculating.

I know of another case over the new year where a patient who would normally have been transferred to another specialist hospital was held back due to shortage of ICU beds. Thankfully they didn't need to go in the end. Not in Waterford.

caveat emptor

normanoffside wrote: »

He was on holidays in Barbados

https://twitter.com/captaintommoore/status/1339979793954189312

That's mad.....and sad another promotion no doubt if he survives.

Jim_Hodge

Deleted User wrote: »

Does anyone know how many people under 35-years of old have died of COVID-19 throughout the entire pandemic?

Genuine question : Why do you want to know and why the 35 cutoff point?

pottokblue

Fair play to him. IMO its fair enough to spoil our young and elderly and If I everwin the euromillions I'd like to treat my family in the same way once the 5km restrictions are lifted but Barbados would not be my destination of choice I'd like Colombia, SouthAfrica or the Himalayas for a family holiday.

ninebeanrows

normanoffside wrote: »

He was on holidays in Barbados

https://twitter.com/captaintommoore/status/1339979793954189312

That's mad, not a mask to be seen either. Whatever their decisions, seems so foolish to post that on his twitter!

Deeper Blue

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/captaintommoore/status/1355924707816726532

How was he not the first person vaccinated. Sad

He had pneumonia so couldn't be vaccinated apparently. Fingers crossed for him.

Jim_Hodge

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Genuine question : Why do you want to know and why the 35 cutoff point?

Because I consider 40 to be the birth of becoming old, but 30 to be young.

35 seems to be a realistic compromise benchmark when we talk about "the young". Many people who died aged 37-48 etc. are being considered in the same category as 18-34 i.e. "young" and "under 65" - and I think that's a misleading way of representing "the young".

Beechwoodspark

So they carted him over to Barbados of all places passing through airports/public transport hubs etc and god knows how many ppl in contact with him before they arrived. And whatever the venue itself is like.

Seems heartless that the family had so little regard for his health