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Offseason 2021 - Trades, Free Agency, QB Carousel

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    #272
    The_Honeybadger
    Registered Users Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    Slow start for receivers, nearly all the top guys that weren’t tagged are still available


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    #273
    Xavi6
    Registered Users Posts: 40,867 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Thuney to the Chiefs. Big surprise there.

    Looks like a cap friendly deal in the first year at least.

    https://twitter.com/fieldyates/status/1371584888101539843?s=21


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    #274
    letowski
    Registered Users Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭letowski


    Pats are throwing around money lol, seemingly above market rate for 2nd/3rd tier guys. Not usually the best way to go about things. But they’ve added more quality at the end of the day.


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    #275
    letowski
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    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Looks like a cap friendly deal in the first year at least.

    https://twitter.com/fieldyates/status/1371584888101539843?s=21

    Gosh I shudder at what we will end up having to pay Quenton Nelson eventually


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    #276
    Xavi6
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    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    Nelson Agholor to the Pats.

    He’s done very well for himself with that deal.

    https://twitter.com/mikegarafolo/status/1371593133927100419?s=21


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    #277
    Mr. Guappa
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    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    Nelson Agholor to the Pats.

    And Kendrick Bourne. Jeez. Bill is throwing a lot of cash at the wall.


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    #278
    Foxtrol
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    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Even before any spending unofficially starting today, some teams were still underwater from a cap perspective (some team might have changed slightly since this post).

    Rams appear like they're going to wait until the last minute to cut guys in the hopes that teams will have spent money early, giving them a better chance of getting guys back on a cheap deal. Again, a move that I can't see players being happy about.

    I'm sure restructuring deals could help but I'd be surprised if they could get that much down

    https://twitter.com/JeffRatcliffe/status/1371255963215347713?s=20

    Rams were $33m over the cap and just signed Floyd to a $16m per year deal...

    So interested in what they'll be doing over the next few days to get that down


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    #279
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,146 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    And Kendrick Bourne. Jeez. Bill is throwing a lot of cash at the wall.

    Has to be a 'I don't have long left, I'm going to enjoy this' type decisions - if it doesn't work out then it is on someone else to try to clean up.

    All these deals could be structured in a way where the hits aren't as big as they seem but I'd be surprised if they all are.


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    #280
    eagle eye
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    Not impressed with Agholor or Bourne signings.


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    #281
    The_Honeybadger
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    Not impressed with Agholor or Bourne signings.

    Who would you have liked from that list? Some very good receivers available still


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    #282
    Mr. Guappa
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    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Has to be a 'I don't have long left, I'm going to enjoy this' type decisions - if it doesn't work out then it is on someone else to try to clean up.

    All these deals could be structured in a way where the hits aren't as big as they seem but I'd be surprised if they all are.

    Yeah, the fine detail will be interesting. The Smith and Judon deals will be big alright you'd have to think, but I'd be surprised if the others are as generous as the initial numbers suggest.


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    #283
    el Fenomeno
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    I saw someone say our WR depth chart now looks like a bunch of $2 fantasy football auction draft bids. I don't necessarily disagree. Would have liked a #1 somewhere which I guess isn't happening now. Here's hoping Agholor surprises.


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    #284
    eagle eye
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    The_Honeybadger wrote:
    Who would you have liked from that list? Some very good receivers available still
    Curtis Samuel would have interested me. Of the more senior ones I like Hilton and AJ Green.


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    #285
    Prefab Sprouter
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    Not impressed with Agholor or Bourne signings.
    Agholor is a good WR and he played well for the Raiders last season. I was hoping we would keep him but it wasnt to be.


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    #286
    Ivy Better Rumba
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    Prefab Sprouter wrote: »
    Agholor is a good WR and he played well for the Raiders last season. I was hoping we would keep him but it wasnt to be.

    He's always been an excellent route runner and is very nippy but he has regular concentration drops. Perhaps bill thinks he can help him with that if so he will.be worth it he was excelent in 2017 but it's a big if and I can't see who else was paying him that


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    #287
    The_Honeybadger
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    Bud Dupree to the Titans $16.5m per year, couple of other teams including the Browns were looking at him as well. Will miss him in Pittsburgh, he and TJ Watt were a really fun pair to watch but there was no way they could pay both of them.


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    #288
    phatkev
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    Jets added Carl Lawson and Corey Davis overnight, I'm really impressed with both signings. After Thuney, Lawson was on top of my wish list, its been so long since the Jets had anyone that even resembled an edge rusher
    Would have liked them to land on of the top iOL but it wasnt to be.


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    #289
    Itssoeasy
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    Fitzmagic is going to Washington. And no doubt he’ll do what he did in Miami if needed and knowing the eagles luck he’ll beat us twice.


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    #290
    Foxtrol
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    phatkev wrote: »
    Jets added Carl Lawson and Corey Davis overnight, I'm really impressed with both signings. After Thuney, Lawson was on top of my wish list, its been so long since the Jets had anyone that even resembled an edge rusher
    Would have liked them to land on of the top iOL but it wasnt to be.

    When you compare the price of Agholor then Davis looks like a great bit of business. Don't think he is a #1 but you have some guys left in FA or turn to the draft.

    As I said in the Jets thread last week, not surprised at all that they didn't overpay on Thuney as Shanahan and that scheme doesn't value OG. It would have been pushed by Douglas if they'd gone that route.


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    #291
    markc91
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    We (Vikings) got Dalvin Tomlinson from the Giants last night any opinion on him?


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    #292
    phatkev
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    Foxtrol wrote: »
    When you compare the price of Agholor then Davis looks like a great bit of business. Don't think he is a #1 but you have some guys left in FA or turn to the draft.

    Yeah I dont see Davis as a true #1 either and his game did seem to become alot better when he had AJ Brown starting along side him. But hey, he's better than a broken Breshad Perriman!


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    #293
    KrustyUCC
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    markc91 wrote: »
    We (Vikings) got Dalvin Tomlinson from the Giants last night any opinion on him?

    very good run stuffer

    8 sacks over 4 years but has had 3.5 the last two years each

    disappointed we couldn't keep him


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    #294
    The_Honeybadger
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    Pats signing Hunter Henry according to Schefter, three years $37.5m

    Holy Moly


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    #295
    Xavi6
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    The old two tight end days are back in Boston.


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    #296
    el Fenomeno
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    Hopefully Henry doesn't go and execute someone gangland style.


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    #297
    Foxtrol
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    Xavi6 wrote: »
    The old two tight end days are back in Boston.

    Maybe it'll be four tight end sets with those highly hyped draft picks who last year were going to bring back the old two tight end days?? :pac:

    Patriots are shaping up to go mad and move up to pick one of the top QBs. Can't see them spending all that money and going with Cam or hoping their guy falls.


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    #298
    adrian522
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    CB Shaquail Griffin is signing with the Jaguars


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    #299
    letowski
    Registered Users Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭letowski


    Quiet enough on the WR front. I think the success of WR in recent drafts is diluting the market. Not sure will Golladay get €18m/y for example.


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    #300
    Foxtrol
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    letowski wrote: »
    Quiet enough on the WR front. I think the success of WR in recent drafts is diluting the market. Not sure will Golladay get €18m/y for example.

    Another bumper year to come in the draft as well.

    The guys that made it to FA this year just aren't at the level to earn top tier money, especially in a down cap year.


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    #301
    The_Honeybadger
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    Buyers market for receivers that is for sure, Golladay, Fuller, Smith Schuster, Hilton, Samuels are all guys that would have been snapped up any other year.

    I think the draft is certainly a factor, teams betting on themselves to find impact players there rather than paying them in free agency. Every year seems to be a vintage year for receivers now.


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