The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

FrancieBrady

Nobotty wrote: »

We're gone way past funerals at this stage
If both men were still alive,we'd still have the level of tiredness with lockdowns as we have
Why cant we all be positive for once and look forward to the 80% vaccinated figure by july actually happening
Thats herd immunity

The penalty for an offence like this was at most a fine, but because they didn't get the result they want, the anti SF alliance want to bring the whole show down, including the PPS, the DPP and the PSNI.

Nobotty

Not very pragmatic is it? Especially of the sdlp or alliance
I can somehow understand the DuP having to sing in their choir of voters

CDarby

blanch152 wrote: »

Let's be clear, the prior engagement between the police and the SF organisers prevented prosecution and effectively ensured that law-breakers could avoid prosecution. If you think that isn't corrupt, how do you defend it?

The funeral in Mayo was an legally authorised State funeral, and that distinction has been made clear many times already.

Are you suggesting the police and sinn fein are in cahoots?

Not remotely plausible, in fact it's a god dam ridiculous notion.

blanch152

CDarby wrote: »

Are you suggesting the police and sinn fein are in cahoots?

Not remotely plausible, in fact it's a god dam ridiculous notion.

Plausible that the PSNI don't want to antagonise SF in fear of retaliation.

rdwight

FrancieBrady wrote: »

People are breaking regs all over the country and these islands from the get go. Everybody from our government to the ordinary person...but Michelle O'Neill something something.

Hideous and transparent agenda really.

Here's the something something

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/07/02/news/michelle-o-neill-says-funeral-selfie-should-not-have-happened--1992518/

blanch152

CDarby wrote: »

sorry, pardon my ignorance, but has one not just been concluded?

That inquiry found that it couldn't be proven their was any breach of the restrictions.

An inquiry into the inquiry is ludicrous, as a democrat you would probably be as best to accept things didn't go the way you wanted them to go, suck it up and move on.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Another inquiry?

Didn't get the result we banked on...can we have another inquiry into offences that cannot be proved in the PPS opinion.
Offences that if proven would probably result in fines at a maximum.

:rolleyes:

Let me see now, less of the rolleyes, more of the actually thinking about the issue.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/bobby-storey-funeral-pps-confirms-review-into-decision-40261588.html

Looks like the second inquiry is happening. I wasn't so wrong after all.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Let me see now, less of the rolleyes, more of the actually thinking about the issue.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/bobby-storey-funeral-pps-confirms-review-into-decision-40261588.html

Looks like the second inquiry is happening. I wasn't so wrong after all.

That's a review of the decision blanch. I.E. it will look at the decision and how it was made.

Do you know the difference?

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

That's a review of the decision blanch. I.E. it will look at the decision and how it was made.

Do you know the difference?

You can spin it anyway you want, but this hasn't gone away yet.

A review, an inquiry, call it what you want, but there is huge unease at this decision, and a second look (as I called for) is warranted.

UDAWINNER

blanch152 wrote: »

Let's be clear, the prior engagement between the police and the SF organisers prevented prosecution and effectively ensured that law-breakers could avoid prosecution. If you think that isn't corrupt, how do you defend it?

The funeral in Mayo was an legally authorised State funeral, and that distinction has been made clear many times already.

Does Covid know the difference between a state funeral and a normal one, thought not, political point scoring at best

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

You can spin it anyway you want, but this hasn't gone away yet.

A review, an inquiry, call it what you want, but there is huge unease at this decision, and a second look (as I called for) is warranted.

I expect not getting the result you invested so much in, will be a sore for years blanch, in fairness, but to want to bring everything down in cahoots with the DUP agenda?

Yikes.

blanch152

UDAWINNER wrote: »

Does Covid know the difference between a state funeral and a normal one, thought not, political point scoring at best

People know the difference, that is enough.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I expect not getting the result you invested so much in, will be a sore for years blanch, in fairness, but to want to bring everything down in cahoots with the DUP agenda?

Yikes.

You mean the Green/SDLP/Alliance/UUP/DUP agenda?

If Eamon Ryan or Varadkar or Martin lost a vote of confidence, I would expect, even demand they step down. However, we know that when the Assembly censures Michelle O'Neill tomorrow, you will not demand the equivalent.

Looking forward to the Stormont entertainment tomorrow.

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

You can spin it anyway you want, but this hasn't gone away yet.

A review, an inquiry, call it what you want, but there is huge unease at this decision, and a second look (as I called for) is warranted.

Playing pretty fast and loose with the terminology when it's a shinner

James Brown

UDAWINNER wrote: »

Does Covid know the difference between a state funeral and a normal one, thought not, political point scoring at best

You're missing the difference...

The shinners got permission off the cops, so they could break the law unhindered.

Flanagan and the Garda didn't break the law because they got permission off the cops.. ...wait,

Yes health concerns and covid won't go away because the authorities gave permission. I think there's more scandal in allowing a meat plant with a covid cluster continue business as usual, but hey, it's not owned by shinners.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

You mean the Green/SDLP/Alliance/UUP/DUP agenda?

If Eamon Ryan or Varadkar or Martin lost a vote of confidence, I would expect, even demand they step down. However, we know that when the Assembly censures Michelle O'Neill tomorrow, you will not demand the equivalent.

Looking forward to the Stormont entertainment tomorrow.

This is what the motion calls for and I would agree with it. From the very start I have been consistent, SF made a mistake.

The motion calls for the assembly to place on record its regret that the Sinn Féin representatives, who attended the funeral last June, breached political messaging and undermined efforts to prevent transmission of the virus.

a very cool kid

James Brown wrote: »

The shinners got permission off the cops, so they could break the law unhindered.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/psni-deny-mary-lou-mcdonald-claim-that-force-involved-in-planning-of-bobby-storey-funeral-39337494.html

a very cool kid

FrancieBrady wrote: »

This is what the motion calls for and I would agree with it. From the very start I have been consistent, SF made a mistake.

Dara Calleary and Brian Cowen made mistakes toobut rightfully walked/got sacked - SF cheering them out the door too. What's different here?

blanch152

a very cool kid wrote: »

Dara Calleary and Brian Cowen made mistakes toobut rightfully walked/got sacked - SF cheering them out the door too. What's different here?

It's Sinn Fein politicians with their necks at stake, that's what's different.

FrancieBrady

a very cool kid wrote: »

Dara Calleary and Brian Cowen made mistakes toobut rightfully walked/got sacked - SF cheering them out the door too. What's different here?

Not I. The only person who's resignation I called for was the FG guy that lied - several times.

a very cool kid

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Not I. The only person who's resignation I called for was the FG guy that lied - several times.

Mary Lou wanted them gone - then the party she leads organised a mass movement of thousands of people across the country in a pandemic, stopping other families having the send off that the rules allowed. Where does the buck stop?

UDAWINNER

blanch152 wrote: »

People know the difference, that is enough.

So you agree with breaking guidelines for one, thought as much.
Have a day off will you

James Brown

a very cool kid wrote: »

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/psni-deny-mary-lou-mcdonald-claim-that-force-involved-in-planning-of-bobby-storey-funeral-39337494.html

I was paraphrasing another person's post.

blanch152 wrote: »

Let's be clear, the prior engagement between the police and the SF organisers prevented prosecution and effectively ensured that law-breakers could avoid prosecution...

I hope SF scold the PSNI what with them owning them

James Brown

a very cool kid wrote: »

Dara Calleary and Brian Cowen made mistakes toobut rightfully walked/got sacked - SF cheering them out the door too. What's different here?

Who resigned after attending a funeral?

StupidLikeAFox

I wonder are sinn fein supporters capable of talking about the shenanigans at Bobby storeys funeral as a standalone issue without bringing up the garda funeral, golfgate or some other unrelated event?

James Brown

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

I wonder are sinn fein supporters capable of talking about the shenanigans at Bobby storeys funeral as a standalone issue without bringing up the garda funeral, golfgate or some other unrelated event?

Speaking for myself (I've seen others state similar), the Storey funeral was badly organised and should not have been such a large event.
I'm over it at this stage even though I had to watch an online streaming funeral for my Aunt during the summer.
Thats it.

The issue is people come on here pretending to be outraged based on health and safety. Then they moved on to pretending to be concerned for the feelings of other families. Currently it seems to be a conspiracy theory that the PSNI are beholden to SF. These people are the very same hypocritical folk who excuse the Horkan funeral which was an equally bad idea for the exact same reasons.That is rightly pointed out to them.

Brendan Bendar

James Brown wrote: »

Speaking for myself (I've seen others state similar), the Storey funeral was badly organised and should not have been such a large event.
I'm over it at this stage even though I had to watch an online streaming funeral for my Aunt during the summer.
Thats it.

The issue is people come on here pretending to be outraged based on health and safety. Then they moved on to pretending to be concerned for the feelings of other families. Currently it seems to be a conspiracy theory that the PSNI are beholden to SF. These people are the very same hypocritical folk who excuse the Horkan funeral which was an equally bad idea for the exact same reasons.That is rightly pointed out to them.

Rubbish... no comparison.

a very cool kid

James Brown wrote: »

Speaking for myself (I've seen others state similar), the Storey funeral was badly organised and should not have been such a large event.
I'm over it at this stage even though I had to watch an online streaming funeral for my Aunt during the summer.
Thats it.

The issue is people come on here pretending to be outraged based on health and safety. Then they moved on to pretending to be concerned for the feelings of other families. Currently it seems to be a conspiracy theory that the PSNI are beholden to SF. These people are the very same hypocritical folk who excuse the Horkan funeral which was an equally bad idea for the exact same reasons.That is rightly pointed out to them.

You think the deliberate organisation of a mass movement of people in a contagious pandemic is fine? There should be no reproach? Do you think it's acceptable behaviour from a future government and a pile of elected representatives?

Brendan Bendar

Serious disruption in NI politics today over the Storey ‘funeral’.

Shows the kind of leadership we might expect if these dillards by some chance get into power.

Chief Constable under pressure and instead of working flat out to contain a pandemic ,the legislation will in the time honored modus operandi of SF , argue every vowel and consonant ‘for as long as it takes’

Despicable carry on, but do they care............do they ****.

blanch152

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Rubbish... no comparison.

It is actually disgusting to see people equate the funeral of a common thug like Storey with the State funeral awarded to a Garda who died in the line of duty. I fail to understand how they can do that.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

It is actually disgusting to see people equate the funeral of a common thug like Storey with the State funeral awarded to a Garda who died in the line of duty. I fail to understand how they can do that.

Still waiting for someone to explain how a virus knows the difference.