The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

Brendan Bendar

FrancieBrady wrote: »

One could say you were quite content to let Unionism and the British oppress your own people Brendi. It was in fact what partitionists did and still do - look the other way.

I don’t see any “oppression” Francie, you however seem to see ‘oppression’ on every kerbstone, every flag, every commemoration, and are keen to ‘have a conversation’ about it to anybody who is foolish enough to pay you any heed

Yet when your own country is asked to support the fight against oppression you pipe up in opposition.

Some operator.........:D

jh79

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What relevance does Michelle O'Neill and a funeral have to Micheál going on a trip in a level 5 lockdown got?

I think it is essential work. SF disagree yet organised (emails to members to attend) a political rally (the speeches) during a pandemic.

The comparison to me shows SF criticism isn't genuine.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

I think it is essential work. SF disagree yet organised (emails to members to attend) a political rally (the speeches) during a pandemic.

The comparison to me shows SF criticism isn't genuine.

It isn't only SF who object to the trip. Did you miss that?

Can you guys see anything that happens in this country without trying to find SF at fault?

OK, so SF aren't genuine. So what? That doesn't make the trip right for one nano second.

So, maybe discuss it on the thread dedicated to it. I'm out on this one.

jh79

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It isn't only SF who object to the trip. Did you miss that?

Can you guys see anything that happens in this country without trying to find SF at fault?

OK, so SF aren't genuine. So what? That doesn't make the trip right for one nano second.

So, maybe discuss it on the thread dedicated to it. I'm out on this one.

It's a SF thread and the discussion covers SF criticism of MM possible trip to the US .

a very cool kid

Does Pearse Doherty know the Central Bank is not answerable to Government? It's an apolitical organization...

He keeps whinging about Government and the Central Bank but they're completely separate of each other. It's a very dangerous road he is going down either he is wilfully ignorant or irresponsible...

This shouldn't be conflated with insurance companies trying not to pay out on things

eireholidays

jh79 wrote: »

I think it is essential work. SF disagree yet organised (emails to members to attend) a political rally (the speeches) during a pandemic.

The comparison to me shows SF criticism isn't genuine.

Its not only SF against this trip. Going by radio shows today, the majority of people are against it

Brendan Bendar

eireholidays wrote: »

Its not only SF against this trip. Going by radio shows today, the majority of people are against it

What radio shows would they be ?

jh79

a very cool kid wrote: »

Does Pearse Doherty know the Central Bank is not answerable to Government? It's an apolitical organization...

He keeps whinging about Government and the Central Bank but they're completely separate of each other. It's a very dangerous road he is going down either he is wilfully ignorant or irresponsible...

This shouldn't be conflated with insurance companies trying not to pay out on things

Leo was spot on, Pearse isn't stupid he just thinks his supporters are stupid.

eireholidays

a very cool kid wrote: »

Does Pearse Doherty know the Central Bank is not answerable to Government? It's an apolitical organization...

He keeps whinging about Government and the Central Bank but they're completely separate of each other. It's a very dangerous road he is going down either he is wilfully ignorant or irresponsible...

This shouldn't be conflated with insurance companies trying not to pay out on things

Leo has previously called on the Central Bank to help couples caught in the "Rent Trap"
Fri, Jul 26, 2019 Irish Times

Why cant he put pressure on or talk to them now?

Asw: He does not like Pearse getting the better of him every time.

CrazyFather1

a very cool kid wrote: »

Does Pearse Doherty know the Central Bank is not answerable to Government? It's an apolitical organization...

He keeps whinging about Government and the Central Bank but they're completely separate of each other. It's a very dangerous road he is going down either he is wilfully ignorant or irresponsible...

This shouldn't be conflated with insurance companies trying not to pay out on things

Did you see the responses on the video Sinn Fein put up. People are sick of looking at Pearse foaming at the mouth over everything. Of course a few people think this is great because they have no idea what the Central Bank actually do but the majority are fully aware this is just more rubbish.

CrazyFather1

eireholidays wrote: »

Leo has previously called on the Central Bank to help couples caught in the "Rent Trap"
Fri, Jul 26, 2019 Irish Times

Why cant he put pressure on or talk to them now?

Asw: He does not like Pearse getting the better of him every time.

The last time I seen a video of Pearse roaring and shouting, you could see Leo int he background laughing at him. I am sure he is not the only one, it used to be a laugh when one of the Healy Raes got going but now everyone just waits for Pearse for a laugh

eireholidays

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

Did you see the responses on the video Sinn Fein put up. People are sick of looking at Pearse foaming at the mouth over everything. Of course a few people think this is great because they have no idea what the Central Bank actually do but the majority are fully aware this is just more rubbish.

Why did Leo contract the Central Bank in July 2019 to loosen mortgage lending rules?

Go on explain, why he can do it in July 2019 but cant put pressure, talk to them now?

Brendan Bendar

jh79 wrote: »

Leo was spot on, Pearse isn't stupid he just thinks his supporters are stupid.

Got it right there jh, Pearse just likes to roar and shout for his support base in Donegal, all soundbyte and waffle but ......substance.......not there.

The one thing these gowls don’t want is an election win.

The genie would be out bottle then and the good times over.

Wardy16 a Minister..... how about them scallions:D

CrazyFather1

eireholidays wrote: »

Why did Leo contract the Central Bank in July 2019 to loosen mortgage lending rules?

Go on explain, why he can do it in July 2019 but cant put pressure, talk to them now?

You will have to ask him yourself. The Central Bank as Leo said does not answer to the Government. That is the whole point of it, so it can't be corrupt.
What Pearse is talking about is trying to sway opinion of an external organisation. I would expect this is against the law as well.

eireholidays

Deleted User wrote: »

I would have taught doherty,of all the td in the dail,himself and catherine connolly are quiet articulate and well on top of their briefs?


What was the circumstances of him.being laughed at?

He made it up because yet again Pearse has showed that Leo misled the Dail, saying he couldn't do something. (A thing he done in 2019)

FrancieBrady

eireholidays wrote: »

Why did Leo contract the Central Bank in July 2019 to loosen mortgage lending rules?

Go on explain, why he can do it in July 2019 but cant put pressure, talk to them now?

The lads have their ball 'interfering in the Central Bank' (which is not what Doherty was proposing) and they are gonna pass it between themselves and ignore the fact it is a beach ball blown on to the pitch and the real ball is elsewhere. Stock in trade as they say.

blanch152

eireholidays wrote: »

Why did Leo contract the Central Bank in July 2019 to loosen mortgage lending rules?

Go on explain, why he can do it in July 2019 but cant put pressure, talk to them now?

This is a copy of the Central Bank Act as consolidated.

https://www.lawreform.ie/_fileupload/RevisedActs/WithAnnotations/HTML/EN_ACT_1942_0022.htm

It sets out the relevant powers of the Central Bank, where and when it is answerable to government, and where and when it functions as an independent regulator independent from Government.

The answer to your question can be found in the detail of the document.

eireholidays

blanch152 wrote: »

This is a copy of the Central Bank Act as consolidated.



It sets out the relevant powers of the Central Bank, where and when it is answerable to government, and where and when it functions as an independent regulator independent from Government.

The answer to your question can be found in the detail of the document.

That does not answer why Leo could contact them in July 2019 regarding something, but cant contact them in February 2021.

Has a law passed were he can't question them?

Is it that the Central Bank are afraid to tell him anyhting, as it will end up in the paper?

Is it that he is lying?

blanch152

eireholidays wrote: »

That does not answer why Leo could contact them in July 2019 regarding something, but cant contact them in February 2021.

Has a law passed were he can't question them?

Is it that the Central Bank are afraid to tell him anyhting, as it will end up in the paper?

Is it that he is lying?

It does actually answer your question, because it sets out what is possible for the Central Bank to do as an agent of government policy and what it can do as an independent regulator.

Regulation of the insurance industry is separate to mortgage policy and there are different legal underpinnings.

On the opposite side, the Government can question the Central Bank on matters of implementation of government policy, but it can't interfere in matters of independent regulation. It is one of the key tenets of a corruption-free country that this is the case, which makes Pearse's intervention particularly problematic for signalling how corrupt a SF government is likely to be.

James Brown

Talking to, asking or threatening...

Mr Varadkar told the bosses of AIB, Bank of Ireland, Ulster Bank, Permanent TSB and KBC that they needed to ensure a flow of credit to businesses as they begin to trade again.

Leo Varadkar has said the government will come down on the banks like a ton of bricks if they try to make extra profits out of Covid-19 mortgage breaks.

The Government is engaging with the banking sector to ensure borrowers who need loan repayment breaks as a result of the further increase in Covid-19 Level 5 restrictions get them.

Speaking this evening the Tánaiste, Leo Varadkar, said the Government wants to ensure that banks "provide additional payment breaks to mortgage holders and people who have loans, who cannot afford to meet those payments as a result of the Covid crisis."

Leo Varadkar had told RTÉ that he “doesn’t fully trust” what the banks tell him and accused them of talking down to ministers with “regulatory gobbledygook”.

Tánaiste Leo Varadkar is to meet the banks’ chief executives this week amid an escalating row over the charging of interest to mortgage customers who have availed of Covid-19 payment breaks, the Business Post has learned.

Varadkar’s meeting with the chiefs this week also comes as Sinn Féin finance spokesman Pearse Doherty called on him to correct the record of the Dáil, after Varadkar suggested bank bosses did not previously tell him that they were prevented from waiving interest during such breaks.

Seems FG are full of **** on this one.

blanch152

James Brown wrote: »

Talking to, asking or threatening...











Seems FG are full of **** on this one.

The Central Bank isn't in there. I don't think you have fully grasped the discussion and what Pearse is asking for.

a very cool kid

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The lads have their ball 'interfering in the Central Bank' (which is not what Doherty was proposing) and they are gonna pass it between themselves and ignore the fact it is a beach ball blown on to the pitch and the real ball is elsewhere. Stock in trade as they say.

What was Doherty proposing if he wasn't influencing the central bank? He literally sent them a letter and a dossier of stuff? If that's not influencing them what is?

No politican should be interfering with the Central Bank. Period. This is the guy meant to be on top of his brief? Seems like an angry clown, a stupid ignorant angry clown

eireholidays

a very cool kid wrote: »

What was Doherty proposing if he wasn't influencing the central bank? He literally sent them a letter and a dossier of stuff? If that's not influencing them what is?

No politican should be interfering with the Central Bank. Period. This is the guy meant to be on top of his brief? Seems like an angry clown, a stupid ignorant angry clown

Pearse is in FFG heads as much as Mary is. Leo cant stand getting questioned by Pearse as Pearse dosnt accept his bull****, Mickey the same with Mary Lou.

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

The Central Bank isn't in there. I don't think you have fully grasped the discussion and what Pearse is asking for.

Am I getting warmer?

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has called on the Central Bank to loosen strict mortgage lending rules to help young couples caught in the so-called “rent trap”.

In comments that are set to put him on a collision course with the independent regulator, Mr Varadkar said that he found aspects of the mortgage lending rules “very tough”.

As I said, FG talking ****e.

CrazyFather1

James Brown wrote: »

Talking to, asking or threatening...











Seems FG are full of **** on this one.

Do you understand the difference between the Bank and the Central Bank of Ireland? Seems like a little bit of confusion of what the difference is.

James Brown

James Brown wrote: »

Am I getting warmer?



As I said, FG talking ****e.

thats was some good interneting


Giving lads enough rope to hang emselves

CrazyFather1

Deleted User wrote: »

thats was some good interneting


Giving lads enough rope to hang emselves

Or desperate searching because they didn't realise Bank of Ireland/AIB etc are different to Central Bank. Based on the posts my explanation makes sense as it was only when the issue was pointed out they responded.....embarrassing
You find a lot of people hear names all the time on news etc but actually have no idea what they do. E.g Vulture Funds etc, Central Bank in this case

FrancieBrady

a very cool kid wrote: »

What was Doherty proposing if he wasn't influencing the central bank? He literally sent them a letter and a dossier of stuff? If that's not influencing them what is?

No politican should be interfering with the Central Bank. Period. This is the guy meant to be on top of his brief? Seems like an angry clown, a stupid ignorant angry clown

It is the duty of the government to intervene on behalf of it's people. Did the Central Bank refuse to meet Pearse? No, they didn't, because it is normal for a politician to make representations to them.

No it didn't because Leo's and yours and all the other FG fans excuses and misrepresentations are nonsense. Doherty even spelled it out for you, 'nobody is looking to interfere with the Central Bank's functions.

If you are going to do the usual defence, maybe come up with one that has some chance of flying.

a very cool kid

eireholidays wrote: »

Pearse is in FFG heads as much as Mary is. Leo cant stand getting questioned by Pearse as Pearse dosnt accept his bull****, Mickey the same with Mary Lou.

Doherty thinks he's in a few good men half the time

CrazyFather1

eireholidays wrote: »

Pearse is in FFG heads as much as Mary is. Leo cant stand getting questioned by Pearse as Pearse dosnt accept his bull****, Mickey the same with Mary Lou.

I again refer to Leo sitting laughing at Pearse, he is joke politician like the Healy Raes