The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

CrazyFather1

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

Or desperate searching because they didn't realise Bank of Ireland/AIB etc are different to Central Bank. Based on the posts my explanation makes sense as it was only when the issue was pointed out they responded.....embarrassing
You find a lot of people hear names all the time on news etc but actually have no idea what they do. E.g Vulture Funds etc, Central Bank in this case

clearly havnt read his posts on this subject.....lad teased out responces from someone,until.they painted emaelves into a corner and then nailed em with facts and logic


Vulture funds are invesremt funds who buy business/loan packages and break them up to sell for profit.......recently several have had their arse handed to em by r/wallstreetbets

a very cool kid

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It is the duty of the government to intervene on behalf of it's people. Did the Central Bank refuse to meet Pearse? No, they didn't, because it is normal for a politician to make representations to them.

No it didn't because Leo's and yours and all the other FG fans excuses and misrepresentations are nonsense. Doherty even spelled it out for you, 'nobody is looking to interfere with the Central Bank's functions.

If you are going to do the usual defence, maybe come up with one that has some chance of flying.

So why was Pearse getting mad at the government for not bullying the central bank then if he knows that he can't interfere there?

Tell the truth - Pearse was asking the magnimous question for the Sinn Féin Insta/Youtube. Trying to be the big man showing how the government don't care , didn't give a hoot about what he was saying once it sounded good.

eireholidays

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

I again refer to Leo sitting laughing at Pearse, he is joke politician like the Healy Raes

When?

People were laughing at Leo in the Dail when he was trying to lie his way out of leaking the documents to his mate. Chuckles happened a few times

Pearse is in his head. He cant even asw any of his Qs

Fun to watch Leo crumble

a very cool kid

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Tbf the government dont care......this is hardly earth shattering news for anyone

Yawn....you could argue the three government parties put trying to help out the people of Ireland ahead of their own parties' reputations after the election.

Sinn Féin, well, I Ran Away

FrancieBrady

a very cool kid wrote: »

So why was Pearse getting mad at the government for not bullying the central bank then if he knows that he can't interfere there?

Tell the truth - Pearse was asking the magnimous question for the Sinn Féin Insta/Youtube. Trying to be the big man showing how the government don't care , didn't give a hoot about what he was saying once it sounded good.

Pearse was asking the magnimous question for the Sinn Féin

What?

eireholidays

a very cool kid wrote: »

Yawn....you could argue the three government parties put trying to help out the people of Ireland ahead of their own parties' reputations after the election.

Sinn Féin, well, I Ran Away

Well The Greens have finished their party with that stupid idea. FG and FF too as they will have to merge now soon.

The proper wording of your nonsense is they ran away not I ran away. Are you FG lads not meant to be educated?

eireholidays

Deleted User wrote: »

You could argue this....but im also old enough to remember the government brought in tax breaks to encourage staycations and socialising in middle of pandemic??



We all seen how they've blamed the public since xmas,for the mess,what unfolded with thei live with covid plan......at least doherty and paul murphy,shanahan etc,sow it into em and tell it like it is

Dont forget to add, There was more money spent on advertising for the staycations than has been claimed back by the taxpayers

blanch152

James Brown wrote: »

Am I getting warmer?



As I said, FG talking ****e.

You didn't look it up either.

blanch152 wrote: »

This is a copy of the Central Bank Act as consolidated.

https://www.lawreform.ie/_fileupload/RevisedActs/WithAnnotations/HTML/EN_ACT_1942_0022.htm

It sets out the relevant powers of the Central Bank, where and when it is answerable to government, and where and when it functions as an independent regulator independent from Government.

The answer to your question can be found in the detail of the document.

When you get a chance, point to the part of the Act that allows the government to interfere with the insurance regulation activities of the Central Bank.

eireholidays

eireholidays wrote: »

Dont forget to add, There was more money spent on advertising for the staycations than has been claimed back by the taxpayers

i actually didnt know this....is it true??

blanch152

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

Do you understand the difference between the Bank and the Central Bank of Ireland? Seems like a little bit of confusion of what the difference is.

That was a laugh. Lad probably spent twenty minutes on google looking up news article on Leo interfering with banks, leaving out the word "Central".

Then again, he probably has a book of newspaper clippings of every Leo utterance.

eireholidays

Deleted User wrote: »

i actually didnt know this....is it true??

It was mentioned on the tonight show during the week

blanch152

Deleted User wrote: »

i actually didnt know this....is it true??

eireholidays wrote: »

It was mentioned on the tonight show during the week

There we go, conclusive proof of something - it got mentioned on the tonight show.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

That was a laugh. Lad probably spent twenty minutes on google looking up news article on Leo interfering with banks, leaving out the word "Central".

Then again, he probably has a book of newspaper clippings of every Leo utterance.

None of which gets away from the FACT that he has when it suits him, called on the CB to take action. Something you are furiously trying to avoid.

smurgen

FrancieBrady wrote: »

None of which gets away from the FACT that he has when it suits him, called on the CB to take action. Something you are furiously trying to avoid.

Haha what a meltdown. This truly is the final sting of the dying wasp.also fair play to Pearse Doherty, good representation of small businesses the lifeblood of our economy.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

None of which gets away from the FACT that he has when it suits him, called on the CB to take action. Something you are furiously trying to avoid.

Oh deary me, somebody else who doesn't understand the separation of powers, the difference between policy implementation and independent regulation and the relevance of that to corruption.

Pearse wanted Martin to engage in a corrupt action. Thankfully, he turned him down.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Pearse wanted Martin to engage in a corrupt action. Thankfully, he turned him down.

Quote the words he used to do that?

a very cool kid

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Quote the words he used to do that?

Sure if Pearse doesn't do time in prison for it after being found unanimously guilty of a criminal offence and also refused on appeal it's not like you'd accept anything bad said about him

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Quote the words he used to do that?

He asked the Tanaiste to interfere with the independent regulatory function of the Central Bank, that is a request to engage in corruption.

FrancieBrady

a very cool kid wrote: »

Sure if Pearse doesn't do time in prison for it after being found unanimously guilty of a criminal offence and also refused on appeal it's not like you'd accept anything bad said about him

What are you on about?

AlmightyCushion

James Brown wrote: »

Am I getting warmer?



As I said, FG talking ****e.

“I know the Central Bank is independent, I know it’s going to look at these things but as supply increases I hope they would consider changes in that area so that people can get out of that rent trap and be able to buy,” he said.

That isn't threatening the Central Bank or directing it's actions.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

He asked the Tanaiste to interfere with the independent regulatory function of the Central Bank, that is a request to engage in corruption.

Quote the words where he asked him to interfere in the independent regulatory function . Here's a reminder.

https://twitter.com/sinnfeinireland/status/1359847704680103940

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Quote the words where he asked him to interfere in the independent regulatory function . Here's a reminder.

https://twitter.com/sinnfeinireland/status/1359847704680103940

You see it is one thing for a gombeen backbencher sitting on the ditch to call for something and another for the Taoiseach or Tanaiste of the day to do so. The difference in status is key.

Pearse can call for the Central Bank to do anything, he will be ignored because of who he is. The Taoiseach or Tanaiste call for something, that will carry a certain weight, and if it is an in appropriate call, it shouldn't happen.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

You see it is one thing for a gombeen backbencher sitting on the ditch to call for something and another for the Taoiseach or Tanaiste of the day to do so. The difference in status is key.

Pearse can call for the Central Bank to do anything, he will be ignored because of who he is. The Taoiseach or Tanaiste call for something, that will carry a certain weight, and if it is an in appropriate call, it shouldn't happen.

Quote please.

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

Oh deary me, somebody else who doesn't understand the separation of powers, the difference between policy implementation and independent regulation and the relevance of that to corruption.

Pearse wanted Martin to engage in a corrupt action. Thankfully, he turned him down.

Varadkar can and has asked/told the central bank things in the past.
He's no problem breaking the rules to pass documents to a pal.

blanch152 wrote: »

You didn't look it up either.



When you get a chance, point to the part of the Act that allows the government to interfere with the insurance regulation activities of the Central Bank.

Leo don't need no stinking rules

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has called on the Central Bank to loosen strict mortgage lending rules to help young couples caught in the so-called “rent trap”.

In comments that are set to put him on a collision course with the independent regulator, Mr Varadkar said that he found aspects of the mortgage lending rules “very tough”.

If FF/FG never 'behaved inappropriately' they wouldn't be FF/FG.

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

Oh deary me, somebody else who doesn't understand the separation of powers, the difference between policy implementation and independent regulation and the relevance of that to corruption.

Pearse wanted Martin to engage in a corrupt action. Thankfully, he turned him down.

Are you suggesting Leo engaged in another 'corrupt action'?
You seem either very naïve or in denial.

CrazyFather1

This might help for those confused about what the Central Bank is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Bank_of_Ireland

This link even has a picture to show you what it looks like
https://www.centralbank.ie/about
They moved to this new Gold building in 2017, a bit of a joke in some circles

James Brown

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

That isn't threatening the Central Bank or directing it's actions.

The idea that he can't or won't get involved is false. He chooses not to on this occasion.
His job is literally to represent the interests of the public. The idea that Varadkar of all people will be made sit on his hands and keep his mouth shut by any rule is not credible.

FrancieBrady

James Brown wrote: »

The idea that he can't or won't get involved is false. He chooses not to on this occasion.
His job is literally to represent the interests of the public. The idea that Varadkar of all people will be made sit on his hands and keep his mouth shut by any rule is not credible.

This 100 times. The usual crew are desperate to try to get people to look elsewhere.

markodaly

jh79 wrote: »

I still not seeing the relevance to MM going to the US. SF have had many a strange bedfellow over the years yet you vote for them so don't see where your moral high ground comes from?

SF has long-established links with many tyrants and dictators all over the world, from Gadaffi to Chavez, to Saddam to al-Assad.
Going back further, the likes of Sean Russel was a Nazi collaborator and sympathiser.




SF folks banging on about human rights and humanitarianism is like Kim Jung-Un advocating weight watchers.

SF/PIRA murdered over 2000 people, not sure about you but murdering over 2000 people is against human rights, id call it war crime myself (and they killed more Catholics and Nationalists than the all British Security Forces combined!)

markodaly

blanch152 wrote: »

The Central Bank isn't in there. I don't think you have fully grasped the discussion and what Pearse is asking for.

I LOL'd.... clearly he/Bowie/James/Matt just googled Central Bank and Leo and posted up the first article that came to him.

Talk about missing the point!!