The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

20 posts back I was saying if somebody knowingly breaks the regs they should be sanctioned.

From the very start I have said SF may have issues here to answer to.

I have repeatedly said improper use is wrong. I have said anybody knowingly breaking the rules should be sanctioned.

The trouble you had with teeth pulling was your own inability to understand.

All of the above has mothing to do with the questions I asked about issues around people whose connections/character are dubious legitimately accessing Abú
Its outside the regulations to resolve that
You gave a good answer and then you ripped away any sincerity in that answer with the above obfuscation
Sigh!

FrancieBrady

Marine Layer wrote: »

All of the above has mothing to do with the questions I asked about issues around people whose connections/character are dubious legitimately accessing Abú
Its outside the regulations to resolve that
You gave a good answer and then you ripped away any sincerity in tgat answers with the above obfuscation
Sigh!

Surely you are not holding organisations responsible for people who are trusted to access data turning out to be of criminal intent?
Would you be looking for resignations in the Gardai? Not the first time their systems were used by people with criminal intent.

All any organisation can do is put safeguards in place and sanction those who abuse them.

I trust many many organisations to do that from the Gardai to my Doctor to the local school,

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Surely you are not holding organisations responsible for people who are trusted to access data turning out to be of criminal intent?
Would you be looking for resignations in the Gardai? Not the first time their systems were used by people with criminal intent.

All any organisation can do is put safeguards in place and sanction those who abuse them.

I trust many many organisations to do that from the Gardai to my Doctor to the local school,

This thread is not about the Gardaí
Its about an organisation putting forward candidates for election, that would be best not having the perception of any criminal associations dipping into its data base for potentially nefarious purposes
I'm sure the mandarins in HQ are working on strategies to head off controversies around that or questions
Sunday papers aren't shy
You may get your new log in to help out in the scrutiny Francie,assuming they've all been changed
Chop chop

FrancieBrady

Marine Layer wrote: »

This thread is not about the Gardaí
Its about an organisation putting forward candidates for election, that would be best not having the perception of any criminal associations dipping into its data base for potentially nefarious purposes

This thread is not about your perceptions either. Perceive away to your hearts content..

I'm sure the mandarins in HQ are working on strategies to head off controversies around that or questions
Sunday papers aren't shy
You may get your new log in to help out in the scrutiny Francie,assuming they've all been changed
Chop chop

WTF is that about?

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

This thread is not about your perceptions either. Perceive away to your hearts content..

Its not me you have to worry about,I've no.plans to vote SF

WTF is that about?

I waa thinking,someone with your devotion to the party would be first in to help vet and filter out anyone of dubvious probriety continuing to access Abú
In these days of WfH,you'd need the new logi in details for the system wouldn't you

FrancieBrady

Marine Layer wrote: »

Its not me you have to worry about,I've no.plans to vote SF



I waa thinking,someone with your devotion to the party would be first in to help vet and filter out anyone of dubvious probriety continuing to access Abú
In these days of WfH,you'd need the new logi in details for the system wouldn't you

Why do you need to do that? I am not a member nor never have or will be a member of any political party.

If that is the best you can come up with to debate, then I feel sorry for you.

Triangle

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Surely you are not holding organisations responsible for people who are trusted to access data turning out to be of criminal intent?
Would you be looking for resignations in the Gardai? Not the first time their systems were used by people with criminal intent.

But the Data protection commissioner does.
Any breaches of data protection in an organisation can result in penalties against the organisation and the Data protection officer in that organisation under GDPR regulations.

They take it seriously.

Edit: it's also possible for people to sue the organisation directly outside of the courts AFAIK.

FrancieBrady

Triangle wrote: »

But the Data protection commissioner does.
Any breaches of data protection in an organisation can result in penalties against the organisation and the Data protection officer in that organisation under GDPR regulations.

They take it seriously.

Yes, they do.

If you knowingly let a criminal access data.

Triangle

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes, they do.

If you knowingly let a criminal access data.

A place that's hacked is liable, not doing checks on who has acess - makes them liable.
Generally the onus is on the organisation to protect your data.

There are slight differences in the rules for governmental depts/public bodies like the gardai.

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes, they do.

If you knowingly let a criminal access data.

So is it your position that if you're known to Gardaí,if you are a person unlikely to pass a Garda vetting process for anything that needs it,you're good to go on Abú anyway as long as you haven't been convicted?

FrancieBrady

Triangle wrote: »

A place that's hacked is liable, not doing checks on who has acess - makes them liable.
Generally the onus is on the organisation to protect your data.

There are slight differences in the rules for governmental depts/public bodies like the gardai.

If they are liable, then they should face whatever sanction is deemed fit.

Not sure what more I need to say on that.

FrancieBrady

Marine Layer wrote: »

So is it your position that if you're known to Gardaí,if you are a person unlikely to pass a Garda vetting process for anything that needs it,you're good to go on Abú anyway as long as you haven't been convicted?

You are pulling your own teeth now.


https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=117033056&postcount=5333

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You are pulling your own teeth now.


https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=117033056&postcount=5333

Nope
Still working on your dentures unfortunately,as your follow up posts over cooked the rowbacks with the fixadent

FrancieBrady

Marine Layer wrote: »

Nope
Still working on your dentures unfortunately,as your follow up posts over cooked the rowbacks with the fixadent

Can't help you so.

I'll leave it there. Enough said on this topic until more info emerges/

Putting a database on the internet containing personal information gleaned from the electoral register, voting intentions, and perhaps little comments about voters from party activists, with only the most rudimentary of security controls to protect it was always going to be a fiasco in the making.

Obviously we all need to take a ‘wait and see’ approach but I’d be surprised if it hasn’t been breached tbh. Shambolic security controls. The richest political party in Europe couldn’t secure a database? Jesus.

StupidLikeAFox

[Deleted User] wrote: »

. The richest political party in Europe couldn’t secure a database? Jesus.

Thats quite a bold claim, where did you get that from?

StupidLikeAFox

smurgen wrote: »

It's amazing that an opposition party thread gets such a level of focus as this. All of the things going on and this has more traffic than nearly any other thread in boards in politics or current affairs. The teams working on bumping it morning,noon and night are doing a stellar job.

Just 5 members have contributed 44% of all the posts to the thread. It could arguably be spun out into a WhatsApp group

Marco23d

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Just 5 members have contributed 44% of all the posts to the thread. It could arguably be spun out into a WhatsApp group

😂😂😂

That made me laugh

StupidLikeAFox

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Just 5 members have contributed 44% of all the posts to the thread. It could arguably be spun out into a WhatsApp group

Then lots of other people wouldn’t get to read it.

Nah, bad idea.

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

Then lots of other people wouldn’t get to read it.

Nah, bad idea.

I'm sure someone would leak it Doc!

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I'm sure someone would leak it Doc!

At least WhatsApp is encrypted,
Francie.

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

At least WhatsApp is encrypted,
Francie.

Funny. Didn't look very encrypted to me the last time I read somebody else's messages on it.

tdf7187

I assume the usual suspects have found a way to blame Sinn Fein for the nutting of the moderate former DUP leader Arlene Foster by the most reactionary elements in Unionism (and on the island of Ireland for that matter).

tdf7187

tdf7187 wrote: »

I assume the usual suspects have found a way to blame Sinn Fein for the nutting of the moderate former DUP leader Arlene Foster by the most reactionary elements in Unionism (and on the island of Ireland for that matter).

No. Silly thing to suggest tbh.

tdf7187

Deleted User wrote: »

No. Silly thing to suggest tbh.

Really? I'll take you up on that. I will bet that in the next month at least one poster here and/or one prominent media contributor will find a tortured logic to blame SF.

Bishop of hope

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Funny. Didn't look very encrypted to me the last time I read somebody else's messages on it.

Are you working for SF there Francie?
It's illegal to read someone else's messages without their permission.
If you have their permission or they show, you them then your point is irrelevant.
Other than that looking at someone else's messages is illegal.

FrancieBrady

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Are you working for SF there Francie?
It's illegal to read someone else's messages without their permission.
If you have their permission or they show, you them then your point is irrelevant.
Other than that looking at someone else's messages is illegal.

Sense of humour deserted you Bish?

Nothing is encrypted when someone is prepared to leak or whistleblow. The last messages on Whatapp by somebody else that I read was in The Village Magazine.

Bishop of hope

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Sense of humour deserted you Bish?

Nothing is encrypted when someone is prepared to leak or whistleblow. The last messages on Whatapp by somebody else that I read was in The Village Magazine.

But it was shared Francie, not hacked into or gained by illegal means, there's a difference in that.

StupidLikeAFox

tdf7187 wrote: »

I assume the usual suspects have found a way to blame Sinn Fein for the nutting of the moderate former DUP leader Arlene Foster by the most reactionary elements in Unionism (and on the island of Ireland for that matter).

The victim complex has to stop lads - attacking the press for every minor criticism is a dirty tactic, and here you are criticising them for something that hasn't even happened.

Every party has negative articles written about them, but only when its sinn fein is it pounced on, amplified and spun into a conspiracy that the entire media establishment is out to get them.

FrancieBrady

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

The victim complex has to stop lads

Yeh sure,
Never mind the significance of what is written here, just look at the headlines in the lead up to the 2016 general election and tell me this paper isn't for sale to the power swap whenever it feels threatened.

https://www.rabble.ie/2016/02/25/its-payback-time/