The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

rolling boh

Mary Lou obviously feels she is the overall leader and she doesn't look like wanting anyone else in the party getting too big like Michelle who should have been in the talks as she is the leader up the North. Mary Lou has enough on her plate her so should have left the leader up north to deal with that meeting .

Hungry Burger

If Sinn Fein ever got into power in this country, I would leave (for the second time!)

StupidLikeAFox

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120094675#Comment_120094675

I don't get it. The world of diplomacy is all about protocol and procedure. The procedure here is that the Irish head of state and ni first minister are first to the table. That's Leo and Michelle oneill.

Sinn fein have also spent months complaining about the DUP not engaging in talks, now here they are jumping ship for a similarly spurious reason. How can mary lou legitimately complain about the dup going forward, when she has herself scuppered these talks before they began? The mind boggles, they are all as petulant as each other up north

MLMD cut Michelle's bush here surely?

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120096481#Comment_120096481

Like the DUP, they'll never.miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

The latest is extremely, extremely dumb on Mary-Lou's behalf and feeds exactly into what the DUP want them to do.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120096899#Comment_120096899

I wonder what Michelle thinks in private - she's more than capable of representating SF without MaryLou holding her hand.

mikethecop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120094783#Comment_120094783

isnt that part of the problem, no one really knows who the leaders of sf are,

how many would really be surprised if they demanded that the army council be represented as well

batman75

Watched a documentary on the disappearance and murder of Margaret Perry back in 1991. Listening to her mother was just heartbreaking. The IRA meated out its own form of 'justice' and killed the three main protagonists in her murder. Apparently her murder embarrassed the IRA. Heaven forbid!

They killed the three men under the guise of them being informers. Extracting confessions from each of them. IF MMLD and SF/IRA want to do the country some real service then they need to come clean and put all their dirty deeds on the table warts and all. Yes we know the British/Loyalist paramilitiaries were no angels in the six counties but this is a SF thread.

Stakeknife is the luckiest man alive in Ireland. If he ever talked, unlikely, it would be devastating for SF/IRA which is probably what has saved his bacon.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098105#Comment_120098105

The army who?

mikethecop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120104592#Comment_120104592

According to a previously modded poster here they are only in charge of internal discipline but Im sure we both know they are in charge of much more.

IRA Army Council - Wikipedia

batman75

Interesting posts about who actually runs SF. Me I think Gerry pulls the strings and the girls are mere puppets carryout his every command. I don't recall any democratic election where McDonald or O'Neill were elected to be leader. FF and FG as flawed as they at least elect their leader and have a leadership contest. The girls were ordained as leader by Gerry and Martin.

SF are slick and dynamic in a way that makes FF and FG look stale. I can see how they appeal to young voters with Gerry the peacemaking elder statesman at the top of the tree. Those of us older than 40 remember the carnage SF/IRA caused not just to Protestants but to members of their own community as they fought their 'war' for a 32 county Ireland.

The minute they signed up to partake in government at Stormont in 1997/98 they effectively acknowledge that their military campaign waged since 1969 had failed in it's ultimate objective. All those lives lost for no reason. All that misery and pain inflicted for what? They were never going to budge the British from the six counties militarily. The fact that the head of the IRA nutting squad was on the British payroll makes it laughable the whole concept of killing informers. What must Jean McConville's children think. God love them left orphaned and for what?

Too much about Sinn Fein/IRA is opaque and particularly in relation to the past. Protestants in the North have every right to see our political parties in the south as hypocrites for their reluctance to go into Govt with SF.

If SF ever become the majority party in the south I fear what might happen. They will try to create some type of socialist utopia which we can't afford and/or engage in economic policies which spook the markets and lead to the chaos Britain had under Truss/Kwarteng.

Grassy Knoll

He is an. Utter bluffer, talks around the core source of the issue I.e. an ability to provide supply were there are labour, planning and cost constraints.

starkid

Mary Lou playing the poor me angle in the Sunday Times. Single parent home, doesn't speak to father.

She grew up in Rathgar and went to Notre Dame.

tis all a bit "rich"

touts

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120113763#Comment_120113763

Clear facts were never her strong point. She always just drop feeds enough to spin the story she wants and then withholds the rest.

Galwayguy35

Funny to see traditional SF voters holding up posters of McDonald calling her a traitor.

The next GE might not be the walkover SF thought it was going to be.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120117695#Comment_120117695

Wait until they discover she secretly gave money to a British polling firm during the last election campaign.

mikethecop

Disgusting to see "political party's" trying to exploit the dead for their own grimy agendas

scumbags

Family of republican martyr Peadar Clancy clashes with Sinn Féin over use of his name – The Irish Times

blanch152

I see our friend Chris McManus once again abstained on a EP vote to condemn Russia, this time refusing to support a motion in favour of a tribunal for Russian war crimes.

blackwhite

Chris is a wonderful example of the hypocrisy of the shinnerbot online mobs.

He was co-opted onto Sligo County Council to take his father's seat in 2017, and was co-opted into the European Parliament to take Matt Carthy's seat in 2020.

If he was of a different political persuasion the mob would have the pitchforks out screaming nepotism - but he's one of their own so it all gets swept under the carpet. Much like they stick the head in the sand over his voting record on Russian matters tbf.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120145729#Comment_120145729

Wasn't he out day and night campaigning for Matt, putting up posters, knocking on doors, planning social media activities, doesn't he deserve the reward of a nice job in Strasbourg?

Has this database been leaked? It also includes a no-fly list which includes members of SF.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120147679#Comment_120147679

Apparently so, it has been leaked. Sure, didn't Gerry have trouble getting into the US some time back. After 9/11, there was a huge crackdown on terrorists of all kinds.

mikethecop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120147685#Comment_120147685

I wonder if mlm will have trouble going on the annual Paddys day money grab in NYC given the party's now clear links to organized crime 😶

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120151821#Comment_120151821

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/mary-lou-mcdonald-i-was-subjected-to-very-invasive-searches-by-us-authorities-34561695.html

She has had trouble before.

Fionn1952

Ah lads, you're scraping the barrel trying to sell this as a big scoop.

I've been clear enough over time on where I stand on the Shinners and their economic incompetence, but this is thread is turning into a fairly desperate circle jerk.

Nearly feel like we need to get your fella with the heap of Shinner accounts back just to break up the echo chamber a bit 😂

Impressive numbers from the US - including one donation of almost 400k. It's going to the 6 counties part of SF. That's also the part of SF that has over 200 employees and over 50 properties.

blanch152

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2023/0125/1351760-sinn-fein-politics/

There are an awful lot of oversights in Sinn Fein. Not capable of running a political party it seems, makes you wonder how they could run a country.

I see in today’s Sunday Business Post that SF supporters and those who say they intend to vote for SF are those most in disagreement with current policies on refugee numbers and housing of refugees.

How will SF square that circle, and do they risk alienating some of their support base?

Loafing Oaf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120174574#Comment_120174574

Not a big problem for them as long as those worked up about refugees & immigrants have nobody credible with an opposing line on the issue to vote for. The other left parties who would generally be the alternative for SF's working class base are more or less all even more pro-immigrant/refugee.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120174574#Comment_120174574

Matt Carthy showed the way last night on television, subtly supporting those who were against immigrants.