The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

Natterjack from Kerry

James Brown wrote: »

If SF apologised for the IRA I'd lose some respect for them.

Speaking of living in the past....theres no IRA anymore.
Maybe MM will apologise on everyone's behalf...

The IRA was not disbanded.

And still has quite a list of murder and violence to its name over the last 20 years.

RandomViewer

blanch152 wrote: »

There isn't a hope in hell of either a picture or statue of Sands or McGuinness during my lifetime.

There won't be a united Ireland either until an apology is made to the unionist community by Sinn Fein.

Heh? Unionists killed more than the IRA, what kind of fuked up world do FGers live in?

RandomViewer

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

The IRA was not disbanded.

And still has quite a list of murder and violence to its name over the last 20 years.

I'm sure the PSNI and the Garda will take your statement,

maccored

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

The IRA was not disbanded.

And still has quite a list of murder and violence to its name over the last 20 years.

the lies bandied around here

Natterjack from Kerry

RandomViewer wrote: »

I'm sure the PSNI and the Garda will take your statement,

They don't need it. Thats their information in the first place.

RandomViewer

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

They don't need it. Thats their information in the first place.

So where are the court cases?

James Brown

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

The IRA was not disbanded.

And still has quite a list of murder and violence to its name over the last 20 years.

Yes they were. They didn't ride off into the sunset and are still among us.

Anecdotally?

Brendan Bendar

James Brown wrote: »

Yes they were. They didn't ride off into the sunset and are still among us.

Anecdotally?

No.... names listed in the ‘Good Republican Handbook’ available in all good bookshops. :rolleyes:

blanch152

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

No.... names listed in the ‘Good Republican Handbook’ available in all good bookshops. :rolleyes:

All joking aside, the PSNI and the Gardai have been consistent and clear that the Army Council is still in place.

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/ira-armed-and-still-gathering-intelligence-opponents-says-leaked-mi5-psni-assessment-3054267

Natterjack from Kerry

Yes, structure still active, but just trying a different tactic for the present. Policies can change, which is the problem. And even then, while reduced, there is still far too much murder and terrorism since the 'ceasefire' to take these guys seriously.

Natterjack from Kerry

RandomViewer wrote: »

So where are the court cases?

What ?

James Brown

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Yes, structure still active, but just trying a different tactic for the present. Policies can change, which is the problem. And even then, while reduced, there is still far too much murder and terrorism since the 'ceasefire' to take these guys seriously.

By 'tactic' do you mean standing down and signing up to peace and joining SF in the democratic election process, (which was arguable always a goal)? By 'at present' do you mean since 1998?

Seems some have issue with the competition.

blanch152

The fallout from the Roy Greenslade affair continues.


https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-did-roy-greenslade-demonise-me-when-i-accused-an-ira-member-of-rape-


"And then, two weeks after I waived my lifetime right to anonymity, Roy Greenslade decided to attempt to throw a cloak of caution around my credibility. In a Guardian article, headlined ‘BBC Programme on IRA rape allegations flawed by lack of political balance’, Greenslade questioned why the programme did not disclose my brief membership of a political dissident group – 13 years after I was abused.

‘Critics suggest that Spotlight’s presenter and producer were too willing to accept Cahill’s story and did not point to countervailing evidence,’ he wrote. ‘That is not to say that she was not raped. Nor does it negate her view that the IRA handled her complaint clumsily and insensitively.’

After attacking the ‘lack of balance’ in the BBC NI piece, he then took it upon himself to list my political history – some of it inaccurate – which he viewed as highly relevant when discussing my brutal experience of abuse, and of the IRA and Sinn Fein’s treatment of me as a result.

Strange (and some would say hypocritical) that he did not disclose in the same piece, his own secret long-held support for the IRA. I appeared on countless live TV and radio programmes, and answered all questions put to me, which is more than any of the IRA members involved in my case did. Women’s Aid, the Rape Crisis centre, and countless editorials provided public support. Greenslade chose instead to bemoan the media treatment of Gerry Adams.

The BBC programme and its acclaimed journalist went on to win a plethora of prestigious accolades, including two RTS awards for its programme. Meanwhile, Greenslade flogged a dead horse and continued to criticise it in a number of subsequent blogs.

My previous political affiliations, long gone by the time of the programme, had no more bearing on my rape than my later position as an Irish Labour senator when in Government, or my time as an SDLP councillor. That Greenslade chose to conflate it illustrated for me the depths to which some would plunge in attempting to deflect attention from the real issue: my treatment at the hands of the IRA and Sinn Fein."


This is powerful stuff from Mairia Cahill, recounting how the secret IRA supporter in the media took her down with his dissembling and off-topic mumblings. The lies he peddled are still repeated to this day, including regularly on these boards.

It is time we drew a line under the snide attempts to damage Mairia Cahill and the accusers put back in their box. I expect she will get an apology from the Guardian now, but I doubt there will be any posted on here.

RandomViewer

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

What ?

You claim killings and bombings so where are the court cases?

RandomViewer

blanch152 wrote: »

The fallout from the Roy Greenslade affair continues.


https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-did-roy-greenslade-demonise-me-when-i-accused-an-ira-member-of-rape-


"And then, two weeks after I waived my lifetime right to anonymity, Roy Greenslade decided to attempt to throw a cloak of caution around my credibility. In a Guardian article, headlined ‘BBC Programme on IRA rape allegations flawed by lack of political balance’, Greenslade questioned why the programme did not disclose my brief membership of a political dissident group – 13 years after I was abused.

‘Critics suggest that Spotlight’s presenter and producer were too willing to accept Cahill’s story and did not point to countervailing evidence,’ he wrote. ‘That is not to say that she was not raped. Nor does it negate her view that the IRA handled her complaint clumsily and insensitively.’

After attacking the ‘lack of balance’ in the BBC NI piece, he then took it upon himself to list my political history – some of it inaccurate – which he viewed as highly relevant when discussing my brutal experience of abuse, and of the IRA and Sinn Fein’s treatment of me as a result.

Strange (and some would say hypocritical) that he did not disclose in the same piece, his own secret long-held support for the IRA. I appeared on countless live TV and radio programmes, and answered all questions put to me, which is more than any of the IRA members involved in my case did. Women’s Aid, the Rape Crisis centre, and countless editorials provided public support. Greenslade chose instead to bemoan the media treatment of Gerry Adams.

The BBC programme and its acclaimed journalist went on to win a plethora of prestigious accolades, including two RTS awards for its programme. Meanwhile, Greenslade flogged a dead horse and continued to criticise it in a number of subsequent blogs.

My previous political affiliations, long gone by the time of the programme, had no more bearing on my rape than my later position as an Irish Labour senator when in Government, or my time as an SDLP councillor. That Greenslade chose to conflate it illustrated for me the depths to which some would plunge in attempting to deflect attention from the real issue: my treatment at the hands of the IRA and Sinn Fein."


This is powerful stuff from Mairia Cahill, recounting how the secret IRA supporter in the media took her down with his dissembling and off-topic mumblings. The lies he peddled are still repeated to this day, including regularly on these boards.

It is time we drew a line under the snide attempts to damage Mairia Cahill and the accusers put back in their box. I expect she will get an apology from the Guardian now, but I doubt there will be any posted on here.

Shamima is looking for a safe haven, FG any senate seats handy?

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

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It is time we drew a line under the snide attempts to damage Mairia Cahill and the accusers put back in their box. I expect she will get an apology from the Guardian now, but I doubt there will be any posted on here.

Are you closing your account?

TBF, if a line is drawn under it you'll find it difficult to continue abusing the woman and using her for 'debate'.

blanch152

RandomViewer wrote: »

Shamima is looking for a safe haven, FG any senate seats handy?

What?

Natterjack from Kerry

RandomViewer wrote: »

You claim killings and bombings so where are the court cases?

Whats the angle ? Without court cases they didnt happen ?

This is quite a list, from just one branch :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Real_Irish_Republican_Army_actions

RandomViewer

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Whats the angle ? Without court cases they didnt happen ?

This is quite a list, from just one branch :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Real_Irish_Republican_Army_actions

Thats the Real IRA not the Provos, Maria Cahills crew

Natterjack from Kerry

RandomViewer wrote: »

Thats the Real IRA not the Provos, Maria Cahills crew

Thats People's front of Judea stuff. IRA terrorists, the bottom line.

RandomViewer

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

Thats People's front of Judea stuff. IRA terrorists, the bottom line.

So the Labour Party is also on your list having Official IRA members?

RandomViewer

RandomViewer wrote: »

So the Labour Party is also on your list having Official IRA members?

Did the official ira ever decommission?

RandomViewer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Did the official ira ever decommission?

Not that I know of,

Natterjack from Kerry

Deleted User wrote: »

Did the official ira ever decommission?

'official'.

Its ludicrous isnt it ? Official according to whom ?

FrancieBrady

RandomViewer wrote: »

So the Labour Party is also on your list having Official IRA members?

The Fianna Fail Front arrived into the Dáil armed believe it or not. And no the weapons were allowed rust away.

expectationlost

expectationlost wrote: »

Sinn Fein urges councillor Paddy Holohan to remove post backing beauty salon owner


https://www.independent.ie/news/sinn-fein-urges-councillor-paddy-holohan-to-remove-post-backing-beauty-salon-owner-40136910.html

it seems like he's deleted them https://www.facebook.com/paddyholohanofficial/ he still needs a talking to

the guys has other things to worry about his wife had a kid this week.

i thought he had deleted them but it seems he has two facebook pages https://www.facebook.com/paddy.holohan.5 and he hasn't deleted the posts


Eoin O Broin says he should delete the posts adhere to public heath guidelines https://www.independent.ie/news/councillor-paddy-holohan-doing-himself-and-his-community-a-disservice-says-sinn-fein-td-40146084.html

Natterjack from Kerry

maccored wrote: »

the lies bandied around here

So not lies actually? If we come back to the core issue from deflection like court cases or the Labour Party, or Judean Peoples Front hairsplitting. The IRA still exist, and have a dreadful list of murder and terrorism despite claiming to be on 'ceasefire'.

blanch152

expectationlost wrote: »

i thought he had deleted them but it seems he has two facebook pages https://www.facebook.com/paddy.holohan.5 and he hasn't deleted the posts


Eoin O Broin says he should delete the posts adhere to public heath guidelines https://www.independent.ie/news/councillor-paddy-holohan-doing-himself-and-his-community-a-disservice-says-sinn-fein-td-40146084.html

That type of stuff from Paddy Holohan only encourages the idiots we saw at the weekend.

RandomViewer

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

So not lies actually? If we come back to the core issue from deflection like court cases or the Labour Party, or Judean Peoples Front hairsplitting. The IRA still exist, and have a dreadful list of murder and terrorism despite claiming to be on 'ceasefire'.

So by your concept of the IRA Heather Humphreys is a member of the UVF as her grandfather signed the Ulster Covenant

Nobotty

RandomViewer wrote: »

So by your concept of the IRA Heather Humphreys is a member of the UVF as her grandfather signed the Ulster Covenant

It gets confusing if you drill down that far given Mary Lou was once in Fianna Fáil rising and following charlie as was that Andrews fella