The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

Doesitmatter21

blanch152 wrote: »

The parading of Violet-Anne by Sinn Fein reminds me of the guy who once told me that he couldn't be anti-Traveller because he once shared a classrom with a Traveller.

Leo lied on live TV (without having a clue) saying SF are sectarian and have no Protestants in the party thinking he was a great fella, turns out yet again the nation see him for lying and trying to score political points using a persons religion. Anybodys religion is none of his business

blanch152

Doesitmatter21 wrote: »

Leo lied on live TV (without having a clue) saying SF are sectarian and have no Protestants in the party thinking he was a great fella, turns out yet again the nation see him for lying and trying to score political points using a persons religion. Anybodys religion is none of his business

In saying that Sinn Fein are sectarian, he was expressing an opinion, one which is difficult to disagree with. A few token Protestants taken out of the cupboard hardly disproves the notion.

Nobotty

Doesitmatter21 wrote: »

Leo lied on live TV (without having a clue) saying SF are sectarian and have no Protestants in the party thinking he was a great fella, turns out yet again the nation see him for lying and trying to score political points using a persons religion. Anybodys religion is none of his business

Jesus,this lie word,trapsed out again
The more times thats done the less it means
It was his belief,he was wrong,but not far wrong to be fair
Lies are deliberate things
There is an assertion a few posts above that vradakar is an atheist
That is also wrong,he is not

If theres to be a valid criticism here,its that there was no need for vradakar to be talking about this at this time
Its stirring,just like Blanch's post above too
But you can see why hes doing it
He knows SF and FF are going to co-aless after the next election probably under the joint Taoiseach model if they have a similar number of seats
Never rule out grassroots FF campaigning,its quiet and still fruitfull
If thats the outcome vradakar will be delighted
He has a long game too
Don't shoot the messenger

Doesitmatter21

blanch152 wrote: »

In saying that Sinn Fein are sectarian, he was expressing an opinion, one which is difficult to disagree with. A few token Protestants taken out of the cupboard hardly disproves the notion.

No he LIED and said SF have no Protestants in the party. He didnt know so he made it up. i.e HE LIED

SF have never mentioned any of their members religion,it was Leos lies who led to the protestant coming out to shut Leo up and instead of a full apology, he comes out with i didnt know that i stand corrected.

If he hadnt done enough in his role of leadership halfing the seats FG have, he continues to gain votes for SF while folk defend him at all posts.its quite funny tbh

Doesitmatter21

Nobotty wrote: »

Jesus,this lie word,trapsed out again
The more times thats done the less it means
It was his belief,he was wrong,but not far wrong to be fair
Lies are deliberate things
There is an assertion a few posts above that vradakar is an atheist
That is also wrong,he is not

If theres to be a valid criticism here,its that there was no need for vradakar to be talking about this at this time
Its stirring,just like Blanch's post above too
But you can see why hes doing it
He knows SF and FF are going to co-aless after the next election probably under the joint Taoiseach model if they have a similar number of seats
Never rule out grassroots FF campaigning,its quiet and still fruitfull
If thats the outcome vradakar will be delighted
He has a long game too
Don't shoot the messenger

He didnt know SF had no protestants in the party which he has since admitted, he made up that they had none.

That is a LIE

Nobotty

Doesitmatter21 wrote: »

He didnt know SF had no protestants in the party which he has since admitted, he made up that they had none.

That is a LIE

Wrong
But carry on with your beliefs

Nobotty

Doesitmatter21 wrote: »

If he hadnt done enough in his role of leadership halfing the seats FG have, he continues to gain votes for SF while folk defend him at all posts.its quite funny tbh

You obviously havent a clue about the difference between centre right and left wing voters
Very few are interchangeable
So and I have to break it to you,vradakar is not alienating fg voters with this strategy
What he is actually at is trying to scare centre FF voters INTO FG
you are not fishing in the same river
So your Anger is wasted

Doesitmatter21

Nobotty wrote: »

Wrong
But carry on with your beliefs

So making up something that u dont know is true or not is not a lie?

Nobotty

Doesitmatter21 wrote: »

So making up something that u dont know is true or not is not a lie?

He thought it was true
He didnt make it up
We are all liars otherwise
The important thing is what I think is his strategy
Ironically if the first part works,which I doubt,it would strengthen Mary Lous hand after the next election

wicklowstevo

James Brown wrote: »

I was trying to make light of your ignorant comment.

How many protestants is enough do you think?
Do you think it's okay for a political organisation to ask potential members their religion and keep a database on it?

Would Varadkar have the gall to say the same about the DUP or ask the DUP how many Catholics they have in their ranks?
He was being pig ignorant and making a disgrace of his position to try get a dig in. He should always be accompanied by an adult and have to get approval before speaking IMO.
He made a mockery of Covid victims by quoting 'Mean Girls' for a bet and a laugh and now he is making a mockery of victims of the troubles by using issues relating to the conflict to try score points against SF. He's disrespectful and seems to have no filter.

one is enough apparently :pac::pac:

do you mean the victims of sf too ?

ya leo is a childish politician but murderer getting outraged at rudeness is a bit of a stretch don't you think

Fann Linn

blanch152 wrote: »

The parading of Violet-Anne by Sinn Fein reminds me of the guy who once told me that he couldn't be anti-Traveller because he once shared a classrom with a Traveller.

LV made a sectarian remark was called out on it and apologised. Nothing to do with SF or your wan from Clare.

I can however imagine your faux outrage however Blanch if Stanley, Cullinane or some of the other loons made a similar comment regarding your FG party.

Doesitmatter21

Nobotty wrote: »

He thought it was true
He didnt make it up
We are all liars otherwise
The important thing is what I think is his strategy
Ironically if the first part works,which I doubt,it would strengthen Mary Lous hand after the next election

With his history of lying, il have to disagree

Nobotty

Doesitmatter21 wrote: »

With his history of lying, il have to disagree

Problem as I said with that analysis is you'd need to accept SF's history of lying is an awful lot longer
Since before vradakar was born
You'd be wrong there too
Mis conceptions are not lies

blanch152

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/some-craic-sdlp-rounds-on-former-sinn-fein-housing-minister-caral-ni-chuilins-for-belfast-social-homes-criticism-40188045.html

This is funny, Sinn Fein are now resorting to criticising themselves!!!

Having been Housing Minister less than three months ago, a SF MLA is criticising social housing provision.

Is it sheer brass neck or complete idiocy?

Brendan Bendar

Nobotty wrote: »

Jess,this lie word,trapsed out again
The more times thats done the less it means
It was his belief,he was wrong,but not far wrong to be fair
Lies are deliberate things
There is an assertion a few posts above that vradakar is an atheist
That is also wrong,he is not

If theres to be a valid criticism here,its that there was no need for vradakar to be talking about this at this time
Its stirring,just like Blanch's post above too
But you can see why hes doing it
He knows SF and FF are going to co-aless after the next election probably under the joint Taoiseach model if they have a similar number of seats
Never rule out grassroots FF campaigning,its quiet and still fruitfull
If thats the outcome vradakar will be delighted
He has a long game too
Don't shoot the messenger

Bout this crap was called out....well done

James Brown

Del.Monte wrote: »

Are there many more Protestants in SF other than this strange example? If you ask me it was a real bit of luck that SF were able to dig somebody up as the party would not be a natural home for Protestants.

blanch152 wrote: »

The parading of Violet-Anne by Sinn Fein reminds me of the guy who once told me that he couldn't be anti-Traveller because he once shared a classrom with a Traveller.

Desperate lads.

Varadkar made an arse of himself again. They hardly had to go looking, she's a TD ffs

Are folk looking for a quota? As I asked yesterday, how many prodys is enough?

Del.Monte

James Brown wrote: »

Desperate lads.

Varadkar made an arse of himself again. They hardly had to go looking, she's a TD ffs

Are folk looking for a quota? As I asked yesterday, how many prodys is enough?

I'm looking for a head count for this wonderful party of unity - please?

James Brown

wicklowstevo wrote: »

one is enough apparently :pac::pac:

do you mean the victims of sf too ?

ya leo is a childish politician but murderer getting outraged at rudeness is a bit of a stretch don't you think

Showing yourself up with this post. As I say, desperate

Varadkar used sectarianism which has caused death and heartache for generations to try get a little quip in while deflecting from a direct question. He's a disgrace to the gombeen community.

wicklowstevo

James Brown wrote: »

Showing yourself up with this post. As I say, desperate

Varadkar used sectarianism which has caused death and heartache for generations to try get a little quip in while deflecting from a direct question. He's a disgrace to the gombeen community.

by asking a simple question ?
one of the many things that make sf not a normal party is the rabid aggressive and deflective reaction to enquires or criticism

it was your party who were actually causing the death and suffering for generations did you forget that ? shooting bombing kneecapping beatings taxing dealers fraud smuggling bank robbing murdering police in various country's protecting rapists and peados all sorts of criminality.

but some dope of a politician is worse in your mind ?

now who's desperate

James Brown

wicklowstevo wrote: »

by asking a simple question ?
one of the many things that make sf not a normal party is the rabid aggressive and deflective reaction to enquires or criticism

it was your party who were actually causing the death and suffering for generations did you forget that ? shooting bombing kneecapping beatings taxing dealers fraud smuggling bank robbing murdering police in various country's protecting rapists and peados all sorts of criminality.

but some dope of a politician is worse in your mind ?

now who's desperate

Yes.
What criticism? Varadkar made a false claim to try score a point. Even the unionists called him out for being an idiot

Labour is the only party I was ever affiliated with.
I don't believe Labour caused any such deaths, mind both themselves and FG did make a dissident a senator.

Some dope of a politician is the topic. If you don't want to talk about him fair enough. It's desperate trying to make comparisons as if one cancels the other out.

wicklowstevo

James Brown wrote: »

Yes.
What criticism? Varadkar made a false claim to try score a point. Even the unionists called him out for being an idiot

Labour is the only party I was ever affiliated with.
I don't believe Labour caused any such deaths, mind both themselves and FG did make a dissident a senator.

Some dope of a politician is the topic. If you don't want to talk about him fair enough. It's desperate trying to make comparisons as if one cancels the other out.

do you see me deafening leo ? anywhere ?

as usual you boys are trying to shout loud enough to distract and as usual …… well you know the rest

James Brown

wicklowstevo wrote: »

do you see me deafening leo ? anywhere ?

as usual you boys are trying to shout loud enough to distract and as usual …… well you know the rest

Yes.

Distract from your distractions?
Let's revisit. Varadkar was raised for his latest and you tried to swivel to how many prodys are shinner or deaths caused by the troubles :rolleyes:

Brendan Bendar

James Brown wrote: »

Showing yourself up with this post. As I say, desperate

Varadkar used sectarianism which has caused death and heartache for generations to try get a little quip in while deflecting from a direct question. He's a disgrace to the gombeen community.

You are desperately trying to keep this going.......and failing:cool:

Ffff221

Nobotty wrote: »

Religion,catholic vs protestant is and always will be at the heart of Northern Ireland
If you want a UI,then you have to be inclusive of NI protestants,something SF struggle to put a face on if at all
I think thats the reasonable point varadakar was clumsily trying to make

Hauling out violet Anne Wynne is not a good retort to the claim if thats all SF have got given she was a last resort pick for Clare and they couldnt get anyone else to run there

We as a country can make a point of how many women candidates we have,how many ethnic minorities and cant criticise the Islands largest nationalist party for still being anathema to Protestants?
Give me a break

It's the question of British rule which has been the only cause of conflict on this island for hundreds of years.

Even Catholics went to war with Catholics over it in the civil war with partition being the main issue, some Catholics wanted to go along with partition because the British threatened "immediate and horrible war" and some didn't.

nigeldaniel

Might as well try some 'whataboutery' Why is a Dublin TD parading around up North trying to meet a UK PM. Don't Sf have a leader up North for that... or is it a classic case of good PR to be able to stamp one's feet and talk about been left out in the cold.

James Brown

nigeldaniel wrote: »

Might as well try some 'whataboutery' Why is a Dublin TD parading around up North trying to meet a UK PM. Don't Sf have a leader up North for that... or is it a classic case of good PR to be able to stamp one's feet and talk about been left out in the cold.

The 12th already?
Actually MLMD and MON didn't want to meet Johnson because all he agreed to was a photo op not a discussion. They wanted to discuss the Northern Ireland protocol, which relates to both sides of the border.

UDAWINNER

James Brown wrote: »

The 12th already?
Actually MLMD and MON didn't want to meet Johnson because all he agreed to was a photo op not a discussion. They wanted to discuss the Northern Ireland protocol, which relates to both sides of the border.

The truth doesn't suit their agenda, Boris showed today what he thinks of the Nationalist Community and will pander to the UVF/DUP. But hey, it's all SF Fault:)

Natterjack from Kerry

James Brown wrote: »

The 12th already?
Actually MLMD and MON didn't want to meet Johnson because all he agreed to was a photo op not a discussion. They wanted to discuss the Northern Ireland protocol, which relates to both sides of the border.

They were only showboating though. This is not the 19th century where someone being in the area was the only chance to discuss something with them. Does SF not do phones or internet meetings which they could ask him for at any time. Or, even with the Bobby Storey headlines, does SF still not believe social distancing applies to it ?

James Brown

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

They were only showboating though. This is not the 19th century where someone being in the area was the only chance to discuss something with them. Does SF not do phones or internet meetings which they could ask him for at any time. Or, even with the Bobby Storey headlines, does SF still not believe social distancing applies to it ?

That's your opinion. You might be right, you might not.
:rolleyes: So was Boris flouting social distancing coming over?

Natterjack from Kerry

James Brown wrote: »

That's your opinion. You might be right, you might not.
:rolleyes: So was Boris flouting social distancing coming over?

I think we will go with my opinion being right.

No. Its his job to visits all parts of the kingdom, and with the precautions taken no social distancing protocols were flouted - he didnt go for a walk with a few hundred of his mates.