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The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

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  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    markodaly wrote: »
    We are well beyond the looking glass when posters, one of whom is against the GFA, want to somehow prove what 'right' the First Minister of NI has in writing a letter to the Ceann Comhairle in regards comments made by a SF TD about a bomb attack that killed 18 people in NI.


    Lolz....pivot to outrage,when your bluster is found to have little to no factual basis.....the gfa i read is only 32 pages (i always smile,1 for each county) and not a particularly difficult jargon heavy document,everyone should read it at least once


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,393 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    McMurphy wrote: »
    You said an unelected Sinn Fein official has no business writing to, and trying to dictate Dail procedures.

    Arlene Foster (I guess) doesn't even hold an Irish passport, and is a member of a party who is openly hostile to our state and many of its citizens.

    She's as much right as this unnamed unelected shinner to write to the independent Ceann Comhairle in my opinion.

    The obtuse argument.

    Arlene Foster is an elected member of the NI Assembly and is the First Minister of NI. You may as well state that no one outside of Ireland, be they elected or not, has any right to write to the Ceann Comhairle or speak at the Dail or say boo to anyone Irish TD, because they were not elected?

    Here is the 'unelected' Bill Clinton speaking at the Dail.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd1XEJX2abA

    Yes, through the looking glass folks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,675 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Some of you guys answer a question for once...where is it prohibited for a party official to write to the Ceann Comhairle? Legislation chapter and verse.

    So now you are admitting that the party official did write to the Ceann Comhairle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    markodaly wrote: »
    The obtuse argument.

    Arlene Foster is an elected member of the NI Assembly and is the First Minister of NI. You may as well state that no one outside of Ireland, be they elected or not, has any right to write to the Ceann Comhairle or speak at the Dail or say boo to anyone Irish TD, because they were not elected?

    Here is the 'unelected' Bill Clinton speaking at the Dail.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd1XEJX2abA

    Yes, through the looking glass folks.

    When you are ready with the legislation on who is 'entitled' to write to the CC.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,675 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    So 'sneaked in' (an invention) wasn't a desperate attempt to convict? Or the absence of any explanation as to what was done wrongly wasn't desperate?
    Or the patronising male attitude to a woman's abilities wasn't desperate either?

    Sneaked in = announce it quietly over Christmas break

    Standing over that.

    As for Liadh's abilities, nothing to do with her being a woman. If they had put up Ferris, I would have said the same thing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,393 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Lolz....pivot to outrage,when your bluster is found to have little to no factual basis.....the gfa i read is only 32 pages (i always smile,1 for each county) and not a particularly difficult jargon heavy document,everyone should read it at least once

    In fairness, I won't be taking talking points from you about the GFA, when you are against it, and support the new Republican dissidents in the North.

    Your record is clear on what you are 'for'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    markodaly wrote: »
    The obtuse argument.

    Arlene Foster is an elected member of the NI Assembly and is the First Minister of NI. You may as well state that no one outside of Ireland, be they elected or not, has any right to write to the Ceann Comhairle or speak at the Dail or say boo to anyone Irish TD, because they were not elected?

    Here is the 'unelected' Bill Clinton speaking at the Dail.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd1XEJX2abA

    Yes, through the looking glass folks.

    You are the one claiming someone has "no right" writing to the Ceann Comhairle because they are an unelected official from a party.

    With that in mind.....You missed this.
    Some of you guys answer a question for once...where is it prohibited for a party official to write to the Ceann Comhairle? Legislation chapter and verse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,393 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    When you are ready with the legislation on who is 'entitled' to write to the CC.

    Obtuse factored by 10...


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    So now you are admitting that the party official did write to the Ceann Comhairle.

    I never denned it. I asked you why you assumed they were 'named' and why they were 'abusive'. Whenever you are ready to explain...fire away.


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    markodaly wrote: »
    In fairness, I won't be taking talking points from you about the GFA, when you are against it, and support the new Republican dissidents in the North.

    Your record is clear on what you are 'for'.

    Mate....yous can discuss the gfa irregardless of supporting it....i mean your here discussing shinners??


    Have you really not read it?

    (Its patently obvious,why corporal dave,aka soldier f will never see court if you do......state should be pushing to bring him to hague imo)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 68,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    markodaly wrote: »
    Obtuse factored by 10...

    So you have nothing only a strop from a FF CC. Okie doke mark...another cul de sac so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,393 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    McMurphy wrote: »
    You are the one claiming someone has "no right" writing to the Ceann Comhairle because they are an unelected official from a party.

    I never said that "no right", please quote me. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,675 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I never denned it. I asked you why you assumed they were 'named' and why they were 'abusive'. Whenever you are ready to explain...fire away.

    The article was clear enough that the CC knew who it was but had not named the person at the meeting.

    You pretending not to understand that was the highlight of the evening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,675 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    markodaly wrote: »
    I never said that "no right", please quote me. :pac:

    The thread should be renamed the Sinn Fein semantics thread!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    The article was clear enough that the CC knew who it was but had not named the person at the meeting.

    You pretending not to understand that was the highlight of the evening.

    Where was it clear?

    I'll tell what is dangerously clear to me...the CC is far from impartial. This coincides with a now almost daily attack on SF from his party leader Michael Martin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    markodaly wrote: »
    I never said that "no right", please quote me. :pac:

    So.... They had every right to write to the Ceann Comhairle?


    What.... Is........ The......... Issue so?

    Pages and pages of pedantic shyte over what?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,393 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    ...the CC is far from impartial. .

    You are going to need some proof for this claim Francie.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    markodaly wrote: »
    I never said that "no right", please quote me. :pac:

    Reverse reverse reverse. :):)


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where was it clear?

    I'll tell what is dangerously clear to me...the CC is far from impartial. This coincides with a now almost daily attack on SF from his party leader Michael Martin.

    i felt martins comments other day,to a niece of the woman murdered in gilbraltor showed what they really think of justice in the north and was particularly callous



    Also gave an insight into mindset,that wanted to commerate the black and tans


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    markodaly wrote: »
    You are going to need some proof for this claim Francie.

    'dangerously clear to me' means it is my opinion which is thankfully not controlled by you.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,675 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Where was it clear?

    I'll tell what is dangerously clear to me...the CC is far from impartial. This coincides with a now almost daily attack on SF from his party leader Michael Martin.

    Have you watched every single hour of Dail TV live to be able to say this with any confidence?

    Or is it just an impression?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,393 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    'dangerously clear to me' means it is my opinion which is thankfully not controlled by you.

    Yet, you cannot back it up with any evidence...... interesting.
    What do we call that?

    Unfounded or unproven allegations. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    i felt martins comments other day,to a niece of the woman murdered in gilbraltor showed what they really think of justice in the north



    Also gave an insight into mindset,that wanted to commerate the black and tans

    Obscene, straight out of the playbook here. Asked to live up to this governments commitments to the Stormont House Agreement he attacks a victim. Maybe Michelle O'Neill should write to the CC?


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    markodaly wrote: »
    Yet, you cannot back it up with any evidence...... interesting.
    What do we call that?

    Unfounded or unproven allegations. :D

    See my earlier answer to Brendi.


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Have you watched every single hour of Dail TV live to be able to say this with any confidence?

    Or is it just an impression?

    i mean did they critise one party/person in the dail on basis of letter from foster


    And was this action appropriate


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Have you watched every single hour of Dail TV live to be able to say this with any confidence?

    Or is it just an impression?

    Like you were in the garden when 'the heavy' came to see that young shinner? Yeh? :):)

    Martin protected the CC by not commenting on the letter for the abuser. CC returns the favour kicking up a huff about something that nobody has yet shown is against any law or even protocol.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,393 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    See my earlier answer to Brendi.

    I saw that, and you offered nothing in regards to any issues of impartiality.

    For someone to be accused of being impartial one usually has something to go on, but you offered nothing!

    No proof, not even an example, just more spurious allegations.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    markodaly wrote: »
    I saw that, and you offered nothing in regards to any issues of impartiality.

    For someone to be accused of being impartial one usually has something to go on, but you offered nothing!

    No proof, not even an example, just more spurious allegations.

    I offered an opinion.
    That something wrong happened here is YOUR opinion. But you are struggling to show anything wrong was done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,393 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    I offered an opinion.
    .

    An unfounded opinion based on nothing by mere speculation, previously held bias, conjecture and feelings... but yes, it is an opinion. ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 68,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    markodaly wrote: »
    An unfounded opinion based on nothing by mere speculation, previously held bias, conjecture and feelings... but yes, it is an opinion. ;)

    Any luck on your opinion here mark? That something unconstitutional happened or unlawful? Or are we just dealing with the CC having a wee huff?


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