The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

FrancieBrady

wicklowstevo wrote: »

you do understand that prior to partition the north west of Ireland was not a nice place either don't you ?


the consequences of unification for several generations at least would destroy both country's

That's your opinion, there are many others who wouldn't agree.

jh79

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Brilliant workforce and a blank canvas for investment. Huge opportunities.
Not everyone is a negative 'I'm alright Jack' about their country and fellow country men and women.

Depends on whether the Good Republicans and Unionist see an opportunity to extort all around them. Look at what is happening with the likes of Quinn.

Doubt you'll see much investment in the border regions never mind the North

wicklowstevo

FrancieBrady wrote: »

That's your opinion, there are many others who wouldn't agree.

o I don't know the poll seems to be going against you in the other thread so far

jh79

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It isn't a 'cost'. NI will be a contributing region just like Connacht or Munster. If you 'invest' in either of those regions you get a 'return'.

You might get a return.

Would you invest in an area that has a peace wall to separate people based on religion? How do you recruit in that situation. Look at what is happening in Cavan with Quinn. Completely lawless were locals decide who is allowed do business in their area. It would be even worse in NI.

FrancieBrady

wicklowstevo wrote: »

o I don't know the poll seems to be going against you in the other thread so far

111 want a UI v 85 who don't?
Remind me to ignore anything you have to offer on costs.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

You might get a return.

Would you invest in an area that has a peace wall to separate people based on religion? How do you recruit in that situation. Look at what is happening in Cavan with Quinn. Completely lawless were locals decide who is allowed do business in their area. It would be even worse in NI.

Have you ever been to the north jh? Have you ever been to deprived areas in any country?

How ridiculous.

A tiny group are behind the Quinn affair, hundreds and hundreds are happily working to make Mannock a successful company. I know many of them and am related to quite a few.
You are as usual exaggerating.

jh79

James Brown wrote: »

The cost doesn't matter to me one bit TBH. We've been rode ragged for decades by political parties looking after 'their own', High time we looked after ours IMO.

Republicans are well able to look after "their own" too. Both Gerry's i believe have holiday homes while only having the average industrial wage. I believe Kelly's is in Spain. Only the best private American health care is good enough for "Socialist" Adams.

wicklowstevo

FrancieBrady wrote: »

111 want a UI v 85 who don't?
Remind me to ignore anything you have to offer on costs.

:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

I knew you were going to say that somehow ,

sure with sf winning all those recent elections

its actually 40 for UI right now

88 leave as is

and 72 at some time in the future is circumstances change

FrancieBrady

wicklowstevo wrote: »

:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

I knew you were going to say that somehow ,

sure with sf winning all those recent elections

its actually 40 for UI right now

88 leave as is

and 72 at some time in the future is circumstances change

Which was, when I was at school, 112 for v 88 against.

P.S. I haven't voted either BTW

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

Republicans are well able to look after "their own" too. Both Gerry's i believe have holiday homes while only having the average industrial wage. I believe Kelly's is in Spain. Only the best private American health care is good enough for "Socialist" Adams.

Two of my family have second homes in Spain and Portugal...far from unusual these days.

jh79

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Have you ever been to the north jh? Have you ever been to deprived areas in any country?

How ridiculous.

A tiny group are behind the Quinn affair, hundreds and hundreds are happily working to make Mannock a successful company. I know many of them and am related to quite a few.
You are as usual exaggerating.

Only up North a handful of times. Enniskillen in around 95 was an eye opener. Painted kerbs and lads on crutches with missing limbs.

Did have an interview with Almac once. Didn't get it but i honestly couldn't say if i would of taken the job. I felt uneasy while having a look around.

Francie, with the Quinn thing, this handful of people are any linked to the IRA? Just curious, I don't think SF are involved. They can't control every former member.

jh79

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Two of my family have second homes in Spain and Portugal...far from unusual these days.

Are they on the average induatrial wage?

Do they claim like Adams to be socialist and then seek the best medical care in the country where quality of medical care is completely dependent on ability to pay?

jh79

As side note shouldn't this be in the other thread seems more appropriate.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

Are they on the average induatrial wage?

Do they claim like Adams to be socialist and then seek the best medical care in the country where quality of medical care is completely dependent on ability to pay?

They are certainly not wealthy. There is nothing unusual in people have second homes. I was amazed at how easily it can be done if you are frugal. Thinking about it as well, another family member picked up a secluded cottage in Mayo for 19,000 a decade or more ago. Has done it up into a lovely little place, and he has been in and out of work for health reasons for years.

wicklowstevo

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Two of my family have second homes in Spain and Portugal...far from unusual these days.

are they high ranking sf members with unusual and unverified income streams too ?

Fionn1952

jh79 wrote: »

Only up North a handful of times. Enniskillen in around 95 was an eye opener. Painted kerbs and lads on crutches with missing limbs.

....I think not.

If you're going to spoof, you could've picked a better spot. I might have an idea or two about Enniskillen in '95.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

Only up North a handful of times. Enniskillen in around 95 was an eye opener. Painted kerbs and lads on crutches with missing limbs.

Did have an interview with Almac once. Didn't get it but i honestly couldn't say if i would of taken the job. I felt uneasy while having a look around.

Francie, with the Quinn thing, this handful of people are any linked to the IRA? Just curious, I don't think SF are involved. They can't control every former member.

Where are there kerbs painted in Enniskillen? I have been in Enniskillen almst every week of my life, don't ever remember seeing painted kerbs...what part where you in?

I don't know of any connections to the IRA in the Quinn debacle.

FrancieBrady

Fionn1952 wrote: »

....I think not.

If you're going to spoof, you could've picked a better spot. I might have an idea or two about Enniskillen in '95.

Beat me to it.:D

Fionn1952

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Where are there kerbs painted in Enniskillen? I have been in Enniskillen almst every week of my life, don't ever remember seeing painted kerbs...what part where you in?

I don't know of any connections to the IRA in the Quinn debacle.

Two spots in the town you might've found painted kerbs.....neither a spot someone just dropping up is likely to come across. Both are housing estates outside the actual town that you wouldn't even travel through if you had any sort of normal reason to visit the town (or even travelling through the town).

Claims to have seen painted kerbs of any sort, 'between the bridges' in the actual townland itself I have no qualms calling out as an outright lie, let alone the absolute nonsense about lads walking about missing limbs.

FrancieBrady

Fionn1952 wrote: »

Two spots in the town you might've found painted kerbs.....neither a spot someone just dropping up is likely to come across. Both are housing estates outside the actual town that you wouldn't even travel through if you had any sort of normal reason to visit the town (or even travelling through the town).

Claims to have seen painted kerbs of any sort, 'between the bridges' in the actual townland itself I have no qualms calling out as an outright lie, let alone the absolute nonsense about lads walking about missing limbs.

Think he's mixing it up with some zombie film. Fermanagh can be like that.

On a serious note, southern Irish people are corn fed on the bandit country/lawless clichés of lazy journalists they think if they spoof that they'll get away with it. The comment about investing and peacewalls was suspect as well.
Somebody who doesn't know the place they think they are experts on.

James Brown

wicklowstevo wrote: »

said with all the conviction of a bar stool republican shouting up the ra knowing full well that he wont have to contribute a cent as ever

Your comment here is the only ignorant thing.

James Brown

jh79 wrote: »

Depends on whether the Good Republicans and Unionist see an opportunity to extort all around them. Look at what is happening with the likes of Quinn.

Doubt you'll see much investment in the border regions never mind the North

Give over, the FF/FG cronies will be elbowing each other in the face trying to get in on unification.
Imagine all the contracts and boards required to usher in a UI? There's lots of money to be pilfered.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Think he's mixing it up with some zombie film. Fermanagh can be like that.

On a serious note, southern Irish people are corn fed on the bandit country/lawless clichés of lazy journalists they think if they spoof that they'll get away with it. The comment about investing and peacewalls was suspect as well.
Somebody who doesn't know the place they think they are experts on.

Got lost in Belfast last summer when a road that was open during the day was closed in the evening, not something you see down here.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Got lost in Belfast last summer when a road that was open during the day was closed in the evening, not something you see down here.

There's as many No-Go areas in Dublin as there are in Belfast. There are very few if any in Enniskillen.

Citing that those areas would stymie investment in a northern Ireland in a UI scenario is a nonsense.
Deprived, troublesome areas of any city don't stymie investment in any country including ours.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

There's as many No-Go areas in Dublin as there are in Belfast. There are very few if any in Enniskillen.

Citing that those areas would stymie investment in a northern Ireland in a UI scenario is a nonsense.
Deprived, troublesome areas of any city don't stymie investment in any country including ours.

This was more than a no-go area situation.

Never seen anything like it in Dublin.

jh79

FrancieBrady wrote: »

They are certainly not wealthy. There is nothing unusual in people have second homes. I was amazed at how easily it can be done if you are frugal. Thinking about it as well, another family member picked up a secluded cottage in Mayo for 19,000 a decade or more ago. Has done it up into a lovely little place, and he has been in and out of work for health reasons for years.

Never said wealthy. The lads are on the average industrial wage and claim to be Socialists!

What about Gerry and getting the best private health care in the US?

Fionn1952

blanch152 wrote: »

This was more than a no-go area situation.

Never seen anything like it in Dublin.

Can't recall where it was perchance, can you Blanch?

I'm not doubting this one like I did the absolute nonsense about Enniskillen, but as I've said before, I lived quite a few years in Belfast too, never came across a road that was closed at night time and open during the day.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

This was more than a no-go area situation.

Never seen anything like it in Dublin.

Dublin hasn't had a 40year conflict or 100 years of partition.

blanch152

wicklowstevo wrote: »

said with all the conviction of a bar stool republican shouting up the ra knowing full well that he wont have to contribute a cent as ever

That sums up an awful lot of the sentiment around the place. There are plenty of people who take that simplistic attitude with no concern at all for the consequences.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

Never said wealthy. The lads are on the average industrial wage and claim to be Socialists!

What about Gerry and getting the best private health care in the US?

Wasn't that a gift? The health care?

What is it you epect of socialists? Sackcloth and ashes? How do you know his wife's earning/inheritances?

He's hardly running around in bling and Mercs claiming to be working for the ordinary man and woman like the multitude millionaires in the Dáil.