I don't like bad news.....here's €20k

Snotty

Two Children have been awarded €20k for sever trauma when they heard their father had been involved in a car accident, the kids themselves where not involved in the accident and did not even see it.

https://www.donegaldaily.com/2021/02/01/children-awarded-e20000-over-trauma-of-dads-accident/

This tops them all in the looney compensation awards, €10k each for hearing about bad news. It doesn't say who the claim was against, i'm guessing the car insurance company.

colm_mcm

That sounds crazy. Surely it was the fact that he was in a car crash and then in hospital for months that traumatised them?

rapul

**** sake give me money like!

hynesie08

I'm traumatised reading that story. I'm suing boards.

Snotty

colm_mcm wrote: »

That sounds crazy. Surely it was the fact that he was in a car crash and then in hospital for months that traumatised them?

It is from the donegal daily, the journalism equivalent of "what i did during my summer holidays" that you had to write in September of 1st class in primary school

biko

So any child whose parent is in a car collision can now claim for stress?
And from whom?

keng66

At least €25,000 for any kid that walks in on their parents haveing sex:)

you get 50k if you attend this Judge's court for getting your head stuck in a gate:
https://www.thejournal.ie/civil-court-boy-awarded-e50000-2568025-Jan2016/

I assume the Defence look at the track record of the Judge they will be making their case before and then decide to settle or not rather than leaving it to the tender mercies of the Judge.

D3V!L

Did he die or anything ?

Effects

biko wrote: »

So any child whose parent is in a car collision can now claim for stress?
And from whom?

Hasn't this been happening for years? I heard of parents who got "crying money" when their son crashed his car and the daughter was nearly killed.

neris

keng66 wrote: »

At least €25,000 for any kid that walks in on their parents haveing sex:)

You still traumatised?

Geuze

Will any politician ever tackle this issue?

D3V!L

Just out of interest, whats the statute of limitations on this sort of claim ?

My dad was in an accident when I was younger and spent months in hospital. I have a feeling I'm due a couple of quid.

bazz26

These successful daft comp payouts always remind me of this:

pgj2015

do some judges hate insurance companies or what? that is the craziest payout I have ever heard of.

Not to condone this bullsh1t, but it looks like a settlement rather than award by the beak.

They were hoping for up to 60k each.
****in disgrace though Joe

Immortal Starlight

I know it’s said if you don’t ask you don’t get but this is ridiculous. Have they no shame at all.

BattleCorp

D3V!L wrote: »

Just out of interest, whats the statute of limitations on this sort of claim ?

My dad was in an accident when I was younger and spent months in hospital. I have a feeling I'm due a couple of quid.

Statute of Limitations is different for children than it is for adults. It's two years from date of knowledge of the injury for adults. Normally that's two years from the date of the accident but it can be tricky when it comes to psychological injury as you mightn't be aware you are suffering from a psychological injury for a good while after the incident.

In the case of an injured child, the Statute of Limitations clock doesn't start ticking until their 18th birthday. They then have 2 years to go to PIAB/Court.

BattleCorp

pgj2015 wrote: »

do some judges hate insurance companies or what? that is the craziest payout I have ever heard of.

MikeOxsgreen wrote: »

Not to condone this bullsh1t, but it looks like a settlement rather than award by the beak.

MikeOxsgreen is correct. The judge had fcukall to do with the award. It was a settlement between the parties. All settlements involving children must be approved by a judge. The judge can't really do anything if the award is undeserved or too much. They are only there to make sure that the award isn't too small.

BattleCorp

Deleted User wrote: »

you get 50k if you attend this Judge's court for getting your head stuck in a gate:
https://www.thejournal.ie/civil-court-boy-awarded-e50000-2568025-Jan2016/

While I am giving out about awards, that example above doesn't seem too mad. It's certainly for a valid reason whereas the kids being traumatised is a crock of sh1t.

We don't know to what extent the child was left disfigured. The report said significant scarring over the eye so I'm guessing it wasn't a tiny little nick. Realistically that could affect the boy for the rest of their life.

jimmycrackcorm

Snotty wrote: »

This tops them all in the looney compensation awards, €10k each for hearing about bad news. It doesn't say who the claim was against, i'm guessing the car insurance company.

It's a little more than bad news if your life lies on the line for six months in hospital.

I don't see a difference if a father was given life-threatening news about cancer for example, and had to battle that as much for six months in hospital. Of course, if it was a mother who had a misread cervical scan then compensation is way above this piddly amount.

Snotty

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

It's a little more than bad news if your life lies on the line for six months in hospital.

I don't see a difference if a father was given life-threatening news about cancer for example, and had to battle that as much for six months in hospital. Of course, if it was a mother who had a misread cervical scan then compensation is way above this piddly amount.

I have no idea what point you are trying to make

fryup

but who is the claim against??

spodoinkle

fryup wrote: »

but who is the claim against??

The at fault driver

fonecrusher1

hynesie08 wrote: »

I'm traumatised reading that story. I'm suing boards.

I'm traumatised that you're traumatised. Gimme money.

johnboy1298

This is just crazy, I don't understand how this can't be tackled and why there is no will to do it politically

fryup

fryup wrote: »

but who is the claim against??

spodoinkle wrote: »

The at fault driver

and his insurance had to cough up ?

Cee-Jay-Cee

Snotty wrote: »

Two Children have been awarded €20k for sever trauma when they heard their father had been involved in a car accident, the kids themselves where not involved in the accident and did not even see it.

https://www.donegaldaily.com/2021/02/01/children-awarded-e20000-over-trauma-of-dads-accident/

This tops them all in the looney compensation awards, €10k each for hearing about bad news. It doesn't say who the claim was against, i'm guessing the car insurance company.

I’m going to put my cynical hat on and assume that the claimants were from Derry (5km from where the accident happened) as it’s very typical of a derry style claim. Half of Derry are driving around in mobility cars as they’ve all been involved in some form of accident at some stage which renders them unable to work but on the upside they get free cars every other year.

BattleCorp

fryup wrote: »

and his insurance had to cough up ?

Yes. It would have been the 'at fault' driver's insurance company who agreed to pay the kids the figure of €10k each.

COVID

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

I'm traumatised that you're traumatised. Gimme money.

As your local GP with a deep understanding of trauma, I can give you some free advice.

Come and see me as soon as possible, wear a mask, stay in the car park, and have €70 cash ready to hand over, pronto.

Do take care.

Your Face

I need to get in on this racket.

Feck this pay-my-own-way crap Ive been doing all my life.

fonecrusher1

COVID wrote: »

As your local GP with a deep understanding of trauma, I can give you some free advice.

Come and see me as soon as possible, wear a mask, stay in the car park, and have €70 cash ready to hand over, pronto.

Do take care.

So drive past the GP carpark, throw the money through the window then drive off again? Sounds alright, I feel better already. I'm completely traumatised, I keep having horrible dreams of people not using full cream in Carbonara. They're using eggs.

fryup

fryup wrote: »

and his insurance had to cough up ?

BattleCorp wrote: »

Yes. It would have been the 'at fault' driver's insurance company who agreed to pay the kids the figure of €10k each.

that's ridiculous, that only gives credence to others to do the same

BattleCorp

fryup wrote: »

that's ridiculous, that only gives credence to others to do the same

Unfortunately it often costs more to fight these cases than to settle. And even if the insurance company did decide to fight, there's no guarantee that they'd win.

This claim is a load of boll1x for sure but it might have been the most economical thing for the insurance company to do.

pgj2015

everyone is going to be at this crap now. the kids in future cases mightn't even be that bothered by their dad being in a crash but their parents will tell them to say they are. The neck of the parents in this case is unbelievable. I hope the money brings them nothing but bad luck.

COVID

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

So drive past the GP carpark, throw the money through the window then drive off again? Sounds alright, I feel better already. I'm completely traumatised, I keep having horrible dreams of people not using full cream in Carbonara. They're using eggs.

As well as being a general practitioner (and former plumber), I'm also an online chef.
And I can tell you without fear of contradiction that the best Carbonara - authentic Italian style - is made with lashings of fresh cream and some Billy Bear Roll for texture and added flavour.
Never, ever use eggs.

Arrivederci Versace!!!

Nermal

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/compensation-claims-for-negligence-at-birth-trump-cost-of-maternity-services-40044840.html

More spent on compensation than care in maternity services.

Our doctors are not incompetent.

It's the result of a government too weak to stand up to the ambulance-chasing profession.

Montage of Feck

Disgusting, absolutely disgusting. A slap in the face to the many people who's lives have been profoundly changed due to the lose of close ones in accidents and just got on with life best they could.

Potential-Monke

Sweet, only a matter of time before being an onlooker will get you a few quid. I'm gonna stand at accident hotspots and claim for every crash.

It's gone beyond crazy at this stage. I genuinely can't think why the insurance company would pay out. Yes, it's probably cheaper now, but instead of this being fought in court and (hopefully, rightly) dismissed, they have left the floodgates open for others to do the same, with the knowledge that they will get a smaller settlement out of court. Just madness. Like, surely it wouldn't have cost €20k to get representation in court, and no doubt insurance companies have solicitors on the payroll in each county for this nonsense. Just mad to think that it's cheaper to pay out €20k than fight what should be an open and shut case against the claimants.

pgj2015

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Sweet, only a matter of time before being an onlooker will get you a few quid. I'm gonna stand at accident hotspots and claim for every crash.

It's gone beyond crazy at this stage. I genuinely can't think why the insurance company would pay out. Yes, it's probably cheaper now, but instead of this being fought in court and (hopefully, rightly) dismissed, they have left the floodgates open for others to do the same, with the knowledge that they will get a smaller settlement out of court. Just madness. Like, surely it wouldn't have cost €20k to get representation in court, and no doubt insurance companies have solicitors on the payroll in each county for this nonsense. Just mad to think that it's cheaper to pay out €20k than fight what should be an open and shut case against the claimants.

Too late. its already happening. apparently a few others who witnessed the tragedy put in claims as well. no shame.

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/buncrana-pier-tragedy-stephanie-knox

Mimon

Heard from someone today that home helps for the elderly cannot make them food anymore. This is apparently due to someone getting scalded by tea and sued.

Any truth in this? If so, this country is fecked.

Potential-Monke

I was surprised that it has already happened... I shouldn't have been. Sweet jesus. Some people have no shame. If I was in trouble and someone came over to help me, I'd be likely to tell them to feck off now!

pgj2015

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I was surprised that it has already happened... I shouldn't have been. Sweet jesus. Some people have no shame. If I was in trouble and someone came over to help me, I'd be likely to tell them to feck off now!

I would make sure to tell them I was insured as I was shouting for help even if I wasn't. otherwise they might not help if there wasn't something in it for them. The guy who saved the baby is a hero, then his ex puts in a claim, they definitely weren't suited.

Potential-Monke

Feck it, I'll just stick to not helping people in general. I would say only a matter of time, but going by the above I've no doubt someone has already sued someone who helped them.

pgj2015

its funny how these people make a claim like the one above, how do they think money will help them get over a traumatic event?

Potential-Monke

Easier to cry on a beach in Barbados than in a house in Ireland?

fryup

i couldn't do it, i couldn't live with myself...maybe it's the way i was brought up

pgj2015

I think a lot of people are just too lazy to work for money so they make a dodgy claim instead.

Kimbot

Can we sue the courts for having to be shocking by their appalling decisions almost daily....... Asking for a mate....

fryup

fryup wrote: »

that's ridiculous, that only gives credence to others to do the same

BattleCorp wrote: »

Unfortunately it often costs more to fight these cases than to settle. And even if the insurance company did decide to fight, there's no guarantee that they'd win.

This claim is a load of boll1x for sure but it might have been the most economical thing for the insurance company to do.

well maybe the insurance company should fight it, as a matter of principle put down a marker to put an end to this nonsense

BattleCorp

fryup wrote: »

well maybe the insurance company should fight it, as a matter of principle put down a marker to put an end to this nonsense

It's great to have your principles but when they come at a greater financial cost, sometimes the principles have to be parked.

I agree with you somewhat but insurance is a business and the aim of a business is to make money. I'm sure that the insurance company did their sums and realised that a settlement in that case was the best (cheapest) possible result.

Given that there aren't a multitude of these types of cases, it may be cheaper for the insurance company to keep settling these types of cases. That said, the more they settle, the more people will realise that this is handy money and more and more claims will be lodged. My thinking is that it will reach a stage where so many people start lodging bullsh1t claims like this, this will force the insurance company to start fighting back.

No guarantee that they'd win though.