General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in OP [Updated 01 March 21]

KaiserGunner

irelandrover wrote: »

If this is a red card it's s disgrace

Agreed, but is anyone really surprised when he took out the red?

Trigger

Thats a shocking decision, he lifted his arm to get out of a grip.. nothing in that

ongarite

Joke decision

wanderer100

WTF is going on with refereeing and VAR !! Who knows what the rules are anymore

Shocking decision

Mr.Crinklewood

Surprised Dean didn't give a red card for that off-side.

Father Hernandez

That's probably the worst refereeing decision I've ever seen in the PL.

He even looked at it over and over, how can a ref stand over that and say yes that is a red?

Liam O

Soucek didn't look at him in the lead up to that. Outrageous.

ctrl-alt-delete

Have I heard that right on Sky,

He was asked to come to the screen and look at the clenched fist?

Wow.

irelandrover

I just hope that's overturned. He does not deserve to miss three games because Mike Dean is an awful ref.

But I don't see how they overturn it. It would be admitting that the ref made an awful decision after watching it thirty times.

Hammer Archer

irelandrover wrote: »

If this is a red card it's s disgrace

It's Mike Dean. This was his chance to be the centre of attention. He was always going to give a red card.

DraftDodger

jebidiah wrote: »

The "likes" of Liverpool? 97 followed by 99 points with a champions league won in between. ...?

Can't believe you fell for it :pac:

Trigger

irelandrover wrote: »

I just hope that's overturned. He does not deserve to miss three games because Mike Dean is an awful ref.

But I don't see how they overturn it. It would be admitting that the ref made an awful decision after watching it thirty times.

They overturned the Southampton one which was made by the same ref doing the same thing..

There is hope there

AidoEirE

Anyone explain what happened. Cabt watch any of the games today. Soucek got a red card for which exactly. Sounds bloody horrendous stupid decision by the comments here.

AidoEirE

Also Mike Dean is a knob. How he is a ref is madness.

Trigger

AidoEirE wrote: »

Anyone explain what happened. Cabt watch any of the games today. Soucek got a red card for which exactly. Sounds bloody horrendous stupid decision by the comments here.

Lifting his elbow and accidentally hitting someone

Mushy

irelandrover wrote: »

I just hope that's overturned. He does not deserve to miss three games because Mike Dean is an awful ref.

But I don't see how they overturn it. It would be admitting that the ref made an awful decision after watching it thirty times.

It'd be the second time in a week for him. Can easily overturn it, but that'll be the extent of it

monkey9

It's not even like Dean f*cked it up in real time, to go over to the screen and watch that over and over to end up messing up like that. Such an horrendous decision.

ctrl-alt-delete

AidoEirE wrote: »

Anyone explain what happened. Cabt watch any of the games today. Soucek got a red card for which exactly. Sounds bloody horrendous stupid decision by the comments here.

I had a good view of it originally, but I've watched it back there about twenty times on a monitor.

Basically Soucek was being closely marked by Mitrovic awaiting the delivery of a free kick. I can't quite make out if Mitrovic said something to provoke him, but what is clear is that in a moment of sheer madness Soucek raised his elbow and violently smashed it into Mitrovic's face.

Hammer Archer

monkey9 wrote: »

It's not even like Dean f*cked it up in real time, to go over to the screen and watch that over and over to end up messing up like that. Such an horrendous decision.

Before VAR, the excuse for shocking decisions was always that "well referees don't have the benefit of replays". I think now we can safely say that some are just utterly incompetent.

TitianGerm

https://streamable.com/sygfkz

You can see the player didn't mean that. A real oh **** moment.

pjohnson

AidoEirE wrote: »

Anyone explain what happened. Cabt watch any of the games today. Soucek got a red card for which exactly. Sounds bloody horrendous stupid decision by the comments here.

Mike Dean cant either.

All jokes aside. Mike Dean wanted to give a red card so


Red card Soucek.

dfx-

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Before VAR, the excuse for shocking decisions was always that "well referees don't have the benefit of replays". I think now we can safely say that some are just utterly incompetent.

or that VAR gets the decision correct, he was advised to go to the screen remember.

JPA

TitianGerm wrote: »

https://streamable.com/sygfkz

You can see the player didn't mean that. A real oh **** moment.

Wow. First time seeing it.
Wasn't even the classic going up for a header with arms raised, he was just moving his arm.

Fitz*

Worst thing is the VAR ref telling Mike Dean to issue the red card in the first place. Why can't these referee just make their decision, have a second look if needs be, and then change their own mind rather than being told to change their mind, which is the annoying part.

3rd joke of a red card issued in a few days. I'd expect that this is the 2nd one rescinded.

AidoEirE

TitianGerm wrote: »

https://streamable.com/sygfkz

You can see the player didn't mean that. A real oh **** moment.

Thats actually madness, Mike Dean is a joke to the league. He must love the arseholeness of his referring style.

adaminho

Fitz* wrote: »

Worst thing is the VAR ref telling Mike Dean to issue the red card in the first place. Why can't these referee just make their decision, have a second look if needs be, and then change their own mind rather than being told to change their mind, which is the annoying part.

3rd joke of a red card issued in a few days. I'd expect that this is the 2nd one rescinded.

I don't think VAR told him to issue a red. He probably just said contact was made, have a look and decide yourself. If VAR said red he'd just issue the red without looking.

razorblunt

AidoEirE wrote: »

Thats actually madness, Mike Dean is a joke to the league. He must love the arseholeness of his referring style.

Managers lose their jobs to bad refereeing decisions (not saying this will cause that), what happens to a ref? Week off, down the league for a fortnight?

They really hide behind the lack of transparency.

CSF

adaminho wrote: »

I don't think VAR told him to issue a red. He probably just said contact was made, have a look and decide yourself. If VAR said red he'd just issue the red without looking.

Nah, the VAR only tell them to go over when they think they’ve got it wrong. That’s the process as it’s supposed to be.

Mason was the first to decide that this should be a red, not Dean.

AdamD

There really does seem to be 0 accountability for referees in the league. And when you see the guest referees on BT Sports etc. who utterly refuse to say the ref has gotten a decision wrong, its no surprise.

ArielAtom

Does Fernandes ever smile, he’s a face like a slapped arse most of the time.

StringerBell

ArielAtom wrote: »

Does Fernandes ever smile, he’s a face like a slapped arse most of the time.

He smiles most of the time, now he doesn't often smile when he's moaning at a ref but who does?

Did you see him smile there?

King Cavani

Signing of the season so far

ShamoBuc

Everton happy to give time and space for united to cross balls, not a very good tactic.

Fitz*

This is how VAR should be used. Transparent. And not trying to create problems with feint touches.

https://twitter.com/Chris78Williams/status/1358148106060242947?s=09

adaminho

CSF wrote: »

Nah, the VAR only tell them to go over when they think they’ve got it wrong. That’s the process as it’s supposed to be.

Mason was the first to decide that this should be a red, not Dean.

It was an off the ball incident though so the on field Ref didn't see it! They asked him to look at it and he still made a ball's of it!

ShamoBuc

Cracker

jayo26

What a penalty by Bruno.

SlickRic

Bruno is decent at football.

StringerBell

ArielAtom wrote: »

Does Fernandes ever smile, he’s a face like a slapped arse most of the time.

Have you seen one yet?

TitianGerm

adaminho wrote: »

It was an off the ball incident though so the on field Ref didn't see it! They asked him to look at it and he still made a ball's of it!

Look at the clip I posted above. In the second or third replay where they zoom out a little you can see the ref looking directly at the incident in the bottom left of the screen.

Best player in the league Bruno

Delicious goal

Shanotheslayer

That's a brilliant goal by Bruno

Shanotheslayer

DLC has to score that christ

ShamoBuc

Everton really should have gotten 1 back there.

ArielAtom

StringerBell wrote: »

Have you seen one yet?

There was none when Cavani scored though. Cracking strike.

jayo26

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

That's a brilliant goal by Bruno

Needed it, Everton were getting more chances on the ball in final 10 minutes.

doc_17

I didn’t see anything prior to the first goal but since then this is the first time I’ve watched Utd look commanding in a game against a half decent team. They are very impressive tonight. There could have been 40 passes in the build up to the Fernandes goal!

Comic Book Guy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Best player in the league Bruno

Delicious goal

But but but but......he barely did anything in that half up to the goal ya'll hear!

Fitz*

Brilliant goal from Bruno alright. A rare goal from play!

KaiserGunner

Fitz* wrote: »

This is how VAR should be used. Transparent. And not trying to create problems with feint touches.

https://twitter.com/Chris78Williams/status/1358148106060242947?s=09

Can the crowd in the stadium hear that as well? Or is it just for the tv viewers?