General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in OP [Updated 01 March 21]

893bet

corcaigh07 wrote: »

Genuine question, why was this post yellow carded?

If you click the yellow card you can see the infraction reason.

ongarite

Kane starts today's game.
That's a very quick return from his ankle injury. Hope it doesn't backfire for him.

Ordinary man

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Quite funny that Ole said that this United team shouldn't even be considered contenteders
That is probably whoely down to him,
That same squad in that same position with a wolrd class manager would be considered contenteders no question

So now you rate the players? Can you name all the ones you think are at the level to win titles? I'd just like to have the info to compare against your future posts about them

The_Kew_Tour

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Quite funny that Ole said that this United team shouldn't even be considered contenteders
That is probably whoely down to him,
That same squad in that same position with a wolrd class manager would be considered contenteders no question

Just as funny as some saying we were in relagation battle months ago

jacool

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Quite funny that Ole said that this United team shouldn't even be considered contenteders
That is probably whoely down to him,
That same squad in that same position with a wolrd class manager would be considered contenteders no question

Based on the defensive gaps and gaffes that are defining this season for Manchester United, I don't think a "world class manager" would have turned them into contenders.

I'm more interested to know what the other fallout might be in OGS's standing among the fans. I recall Moyes before a Liverpool game almost suggesting that United might be lucky to get a draw (I may not be 100% accurate here, but it was an interview with a lot of negativity.). The fans turned on Moyes then, saying that he didn't have the right aspirations for a Manchester United manager.
Just wondering if the fans here would class OGS as being a realist or a pessemist, and will it impact his future at the club?

JPA

Diagne is some size upfront for WBA. :eek:

pjohnson

JPA wrote: »

Diagne is some size upfront for WBA. :eek:

Allardyce has a type when it comes to strikers tbf.

JPA

pjohnson wrote: »

Allardyce has a type when it comes to strikers tbf.

Filter by height and weight.

doc_17

Would Jose care more about himself or Harry Kane’s ankle?

Chuck Noland

doc_17 wrote: »

Would Jose care more about himself or Harry Kane’s ankle?

Players always want too play of course but in this day and age with teams of doctors, sports scientists and physio’s everywhere I don’t think players would be left play if it was dangerous

dfx-

Catching the third, the Everton equaliser and don't see where the United fans' criticism of their defence springs from. The third goal is a ball that falls to the striker...and the second is a good strike.

blueser

doc_17 wrote: »

Would Jose care more about himself or Harry Kane’s ankle?

He'd only be concerned about Kane's ankle in as much as a missing Kane obviously weakens Spurs, consequently impacting on their chance to win games, which then impacts on his future in the job. He's the ultimate "me me me" merchant.

blueser

dfx- wrote: »

Catching the third, the Everton equaliser and don't see where the United fans' criticism of their defence springs from. The third goal is a ball that falls to the striker...and the second is a good strike.

Possibly looking at Maguire being a couple of yards behind his teammates, playing DCL (indeed, all the Everton players) onside. You'd expect better from the captain and leader of the defence. Maybe?

Mushy

West Brom almost take the lead. Really should have

Edit: would've been offside

505_

Like most I’m not a very big Mourinho fan.

Although I don’t think he’s the only manager that would play Kane in this situation. He’s under pressure. I think I heard earlier something like this is Spurs worst PL run in eight years. I think most managers would put themselves and keeping their jobs ahead of any players possible injury problem.

Liam O

dfx- wrote: »

Catching the third, the Everton equaliser and don't see where the United fans' criticism of their defence springs from. The third goal is a ball that falls to the striker...and the second is a good strike.

It falls to the striker but as usual the keeper is stuck to his line and slow to react. Really lacking bravery at the end and basic goalkeeping awareness for their first. I wouldn't be harsh on Maguire and Lindelof as others have been but De Gea is costing United points every other game. Even against Sheffield United, when United were pushing up in injury time and they cleared it, he was back in the box. He's not evolved his game at all and is basically a glorified Shay Given at this point only his shot stopping has also become suspect so doesn't offer much.

I think the full backs still have some links to work out too. They are both defensive for the most part but recently have been asked to get forward more it seems and when they do it leaves gaps to be exploited that aren't always being covered by the midfield and CBs so any ball over the top generally has a PL attacker one on one with a CB who isn't fast. Recipe for disaster and one that imo is completely avoidable.

Kiith

blueser wrote: »

He'd only be concerned about Kane's ankle in as much as a missing Kane obviously weakens Spurs, consequently impacting on their chance to win games, which then impacts on his future in the job. He's the ultimate "me me me" merchant.

How does him wanting to play our best player make him a "me me me" merchant?

Mourinho isn't going to play Kane if he's not been passed by the medical team to play. He's no more risking Kane then any manager does when picking a player returning from injury.

pjohnson

Kiith wrote: »

How does him wanting to play our best player make him a "me me me" merchant?

Mourinho isn't going to play Kane if he's not been passed by the medical team to play. He's no more risking Kane then any manager does when picking a player returning from injury.

Thats just one of his superpowers.

Every single thing is his fault.

dfx-

The first goal is poor defending regardless of De Gea even though it's a poor cross. Shaw (or anyone) has no idea Doucoure made a run to the near post had the cross picked him out - it's a decent run actually.

blueser wrote: »

Possibly looking at Maguire being a couple of yards behind his teammates, playing DCL (indeed, all the Everton players) onside. You'd expect better from the captain and leader of the defence. Maybe?

It would be madness to suggest that the rest are playing offside from the flick on - that is a pure chance on how the ball breaks. They all stopped. Indeed had others kept running or followed DCL's run in they might have intervened, but it is chance.

StringerBell

Love Roy Keane

Mushy

Lovely goal you Kane

Comic Book Guy

dfx- wrote: »

It would be madness to suggest that the rest are playing offside from the flick on - that is a pure chance on how the ball breaks. They all stopped. Indeed had others kept running or followed DCL's run in they might have intervened, but it is chance.

It was more his position from the initial free kick not the flick on. He is looking across the entire line and still plays himself 2 yards behind his team mates and plays 3 or 4 Everton players onside.

StringerBell

Liverpool favourites today presumably? Getting some players back, city still missing big players and pep doesn't have the best record v klopp as it is.

A game at anfield to blow the title race back open? Surely Liverpool will rise to the occasion as they have in he past

ShamoBuc

StringerBell wrote: »

Liverpool favourites today presumably? Getting some players back, city still missing big players and pep doesn't have the best record v klopp as it is.

A game at anfield to blow the title race back open? Surely Liverpool will rise to the occasion as they have in he past

City are clear favourites to win. Just over Evens in the bookies. Pool as far out as 11/4

StringerBell

ShamoBuc wrote: »

City are clear favourites to win. Just over Evens in the bookies. Pool as far out as 11/4

Liverpool are 11/4 to win a game at anfield????

Jesus you're right! I had a quick check on pp and see they are 5/2

Will have to have a little bet

ShamoBuc

ShamoBuc wrote: »

City are clear favourites to win. Just over Evens in the bookies. Pool as far out as 11/4

That's a savage price
Worth 20 quid

ShamoBuc

StringerBell wrote: »

Liverpool are 11/4 to win a game at anfield????

Correct, 5/2 and 13/5 available in most bookies.

Fiil your boots! Reckon a draw at the same prices is more favourable.

StringerBell

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Correct, 5/2 and 13/5 available in most bookies.

Fiil your boots! Reckon a draw at the same prices is more favourable.

Absolutely, City missing the likes of Aguero, De Bruyne etc and Klopp in the opposing dugout, at anfield, can't believe those odds!

Definitely worth a bet, can't remember the last time I've seen those odds on pool at home.

Sanity_Saviour

blueser wrote: »

He'd only be concerned about Kane's ankle in as much as a missing Kane obviously weakens Spurs, consequently impacting on their chance to win games, which then impacts on his future in the job. He's the ultimate "me me me" merchant.

Jesus it's actually embarrassing to see how much Jose (a man they've never met) lives in some of these guys' heads rent free.

Deeper Blue

Sanity_Saviour wrote: »

Jesus it's actually embarrassing to see how much Jose (a man they've never met) lives in some of these guys' heads rent free.

So only those that have met Jose are allowed have an opinion on him?

Also the media basically shove him down our throats on a daily basis, it's only natural that we speak about the guy.

jayo26

Great result for Jose, got Kane back and played 90 minutes no problem. Only 4 points of liverpool in fourth now he doing a good job concidering the squad he had at start of season.

StringerBell

Good win for spurs against an improved west brom, big task to keep them up though for the specialist. I'd expect a tough game against them when we play them though

Fitz*

StringerBell wrote: »

Absolutely, City missing the likes of Aguero, De Bruyne etc and Klopp in the opposing dugout, at anfield, can't believe those odds!

Definitely worth a bet, can't remember the last time I've seen those odds on pool at home.

Last year in the FA cup when the Liverpool kids knocked a strong Everton team out at Anfield. Everton were favourites. Liverpool were around 2/1 that day.

StringerBell

Fitz* wrote: »

Last year in the FA cup when the Liverpool kids knocked a strong Everton team out. Everton were favourites. Liverpool were around 2/1 that day.

Was that when ye had to split the squads or something with the simultaneous games or something? If so then yeah alright, but I was thinking more along the lines of the normal circumstances rather than something pretty unprecedented

Sanity_Saviour

El Sueño wrote: »

So only those that have met Jose are allowed have an opinion on him?

Also the media basically shove him down our throats on a daily basis, it's only natural that we speak about the guy.

You don't like a guy because the newspapers and TV told you not to like him?

Fitz*

StringerBell wrote: »

Was that when ye had to split the squads or something with the simultaneous games or something? If so then yeah alright, but I was thinking more along the lines of the normal circumstances rather than something pretty unprecedented

No that was the other cup. This one, Klopp just chose to rotate in.

5/2 is a big price today alright.

City don't need to win. A draw for City today is sound for them as it is the last chance Liverpool can take points off of them and directly affect their points title. They can absorb them 2 points easily. I'm gonna predict that Pep goes with Dias, Stones & Laporte tucking in from LB and gives Cancelo that free role from RB. An inverse of the similar tactics employed by Pep in the 0-0 at Anfield a few years ago, but with Walker tucking in that day. Gives that extra defensive solidarity on top of the big clean sheet run they are on.

Deeper Blue

Sanity_Saviour wrote: »

You don't like a guy because the newspapers and TV told you not to like him?

I don't like him because he behaves like a child.

Maybe he's a great lad behind the scenes but I can only judge based on what I see.

blueser

https://twitter.com/Radiology_UK/status/1358422792073486340?s=19

Credit where it's due here. A nice gesture from LFC to Colin.

ShamoBuc

Great chance missed by Vardy to win it in injury time.

pjohnson

Thiago booked first. Was wondering whether it'd be him or one of the City lads booked first.

He really does seem more like a Pep/City type player.

retalivity

A #11 playing at left back annoys me more than it should

pjohnson

pjohnson wrote: »

Thiago booked first. Was wondering whether it'd be him or one of the City lads booked first.

He really does seem more like a Pep/City type player.

Yea the fouling is continuous from him. Ref acting quickly here on it.

pjohnson

Ruben Dias is ridiculous. Just breezes past Firminho to end a Liverpool attack and charges upfield to join the City attack, then sprints back into position WHILE Liverpool are trying to counter attack after the City attack breaks down.

City in complete control so far
Thiago yet again very poor for Liverpool so far

doc_17

pjohnson wrote: »

Ruben Dias is ridiculous. Just breezes past Firminho to end a Liverpool attack and charges upfield to join the City attack, then sprints back into position WHILE Liverpool are trying to counter attack after the City attack breaks down.

Did you see his 20 yard pass out to the wing there? Went 20 yards into the stand.....

ShamoBuc

Great chance created, Mané should have scored that.

StringerBell

Close from mane, should have done better I suppose

StringerBell

Dull affair this isn't it

bangkok

Terrible 30mins of football so far

ShamoBuc

Fantastic effort by Bobby.
Liverpool creating a few chances.
Nothing so far from City.
Good play from the home side.