General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in OP [Updated 01 March 21]

DVDM93

Arsenal & Saka in particular off to a great start here. He could have had a hattrick inside 10 minutes between rattling the bar, another great chance & a disallowed goal due to Lacazette being offside. He was a massive loss on Saturday.

Good to see Aubameyang back albeit only on the bench for now, hopefully his Mum is doing better.

Tierney is still out injured.

Arsenal to win was my call before the game started & the first 15 minutes hasn't changed my mind on that either.

Agent Coulson

Just read that Burnley's new owners did a leveraged buyout the club using the clubs own money and now the club is £90m worse off and loaded with debt.

Man U can survive something like that because it's a global brand and would always find a buyer however a club like Burnley if the go down that could be the end of the club who would pay £200+m for them that the new owners now value them at.

This is it

Good battling from Pepe and lovely finish

Harry Palmr

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Just read that Burnley's new owners did a leveraged buyout the club using the clubs own money and now the club is £90m worse off and loaded with debt.

Man U can survive something like that because it's a global brand and would always find a buyer however a club like Burnley if the go down that could be the end of the club who would pay £200+m for them that the new owners now value them at.

Psst! look 10 posts up!

Mushy

West Brom take the lead somewhat against the run of play

DVDM93

Oh wow! A huge turn of events here are Molineux.

David Luiz sent off for a profession foul, Wolves penalty.

It came just after it was looking like the ref was blowing for half-time too.

Neves slots home, 1-1.

ongarite

Luiz sent off. Its like he fell over into the Wolves player

This is it

So clumsy

AdamD

That just isn't a red card

POKERKING

Ramsdale is one of the poorest keepers i have ever seen in the prem. Im not even sure hes championship level

DVDM93

https://twitter.com/FootballLiveEN/status/1356676939935846400?s=20

This is it

AdamD wrote: »

That just isn't a red card

Clipped as he was running. Any contact with the legs when running full pelt is going to through you off. Easy decision for me.

Ottoman_1000

DVDM93 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FootballLiveEN/status/1356676939935846400?s=20

Did they not change the red card rule a while back that if the last man back fouled the player in the box and a penalty was awarded then that would be punishment enough? I feel like every rule gets changes these days?ha...

DVDM93

This is it wrote: »

Clipped as he was running. Any contact with the legs when running full pelt is going to through you off. Easy decision for me.

Intent doesn't come in to it either as Peter Walton just confirmed on BT Sports.

DVDM93

Ottoman_1000 wrote: »

Did they not change the red card rule a while back that if the last man back fouled the player in the box and a penalty was awarded then that would be punishment enough? I feel like every rule gets changes these days?ha...

I'll be honest with you, I've adapted a go with the flow approach regarding rules in the Premier League. No point trying to keep up with them as there ever changing & even the ones that don't there's inconsistency with them. There's an attractive element of surprise that comes with this approach too, going in to games not knowing what new rule you might see or what old rule you might see gotten rid of.

AdamD

This is it wrote: »

Clipped as he was running. Any contact with the legs when running full pelt is going to through you off. Easy decision for me.

Double jeopardy doesn't come in for accidental contact?

Harry Palmr

I honestly don't know why Peter Walton is there. If he is right that's just confirmation if he is wrong he looks a div.

Fitz*

It's a foul alright, but to give a straight red card is a bit much isnt it? Unless there's a new rule for double punishment or something..

If it was your team on the recieving end of the card, you'd be incredibly annoyed. No question about the penalty as he does impede the attacker.

This is it

AdamD wrote: »

Double jeopardy doesn't come in for accidental contact?

The red and the peno? Hadn't thought of it to be honest, hard to keep up with the rules and changes

DVDM93

Wow!

What an incredible goal by Moutinho!

Ottoman_1000

DVDM93 wrote: »

I'll be honest with you, I've adapted a go with the flow approach regarding rules in the Premier League. No point trying to keep up with them as there ever changing & even the ones that don't there's inconsistency with them. There's an attractive element of surprise that comes with this approach too, going in to games not knowing what new rule you might see or what old rule you might see gotten rid of.

Seems to be the way. I remember at the thinking that rule change was a good one because sometimes its harsh to get the red card and peno to go against you but obviously the powers that be don't agree...

This is it

Pick that out. Moutinho with an absolute cracker!

DVDM93

BOOM!

https://twitter.com/Fastgoal2/status/1356681446132502533?s=20

Hammer Archer

The accidental contact only comes into it if there's an attempt to play the ball. It may have been unintentional but he didn't attempt to play the ball. If that sort of foul only got a yellow, you'd have players "unintentionally" clipping players' heels in similar situations.

~Rebel~

Ottoman_1000 wrote: »

Did they not change the red card rule a while back that if the last man back fouled the player in the box and a penalty was awarded then that would be punishment enough? I feel like every rule gets changes these days?ha...

I don't think the rule has changed... it's a yellow and a pen if the last man makes a genuine attempt to get the ball, but fouls in the process - as in, sliding in from the side and just missing ball contact.

It's a red and a pen if the last man fouls the attacker without trying to get the ball - as in, clipping from behind, pulling someone down etc.

So it's consistent with the law as we've known it for a long time. Just looks odd in this case as it was somewhat accidental and awkward and looked a bit benign - but being accidental or not doesn't play into it, it was still a last-man foul that didn't come from trying to play the ball.

PsychoPete

What was Leno thinking there

pjohnson

POKERKING wrote: »

Ramsdale is one of the poorest keepers i have ever seen in the prem. Im not even sure hes championship level

Howes decision to make him #1 ahead of Begovic and even Boruc was a large part of why Bournemouth went down. Now his keeping will bring Sheffield down. Can't see anyone giving him a 3rd spell in the prem next year.

Agent Coulson

Brain dead from Leno to get sent off like that.

DVDM93

Another red card for Arsenal.

Agent Coulson

Sheff Utd taken the lead.

pjohnson

Well at least Arteta upgraded his back up by getting Ryan from Brighton...........who he didn't put on the bench. Oh Arsenal.

Quazzie

pjohnson wrote: »

Well at least Arteta upgraded his back up by getting Ryan from Brighton...........who he didn't put on the bench. Oh Arsenal.

Can't put an injured player on the bench

marklazarcovic

Leno does that, knowing 2nd choice keeper injured,and he gets a 3 game ban now..brainless.

TitianGerm

pjohnson wrote: »

Well at least Arteta upgraded his back up by getting Ryan from Brighton...........who he didn't put on the bench. Oh Arsenal.

Ryan has a slight injury. Due back in two weeks I think.

pjohnson

Quazzie wrote: »

Can't put an injured player on the bench

Oh was that why Brighton let him leave or did that happen since he joined Arsenal?

TitianGerm wrote: »

Ryan has a slight injury. Due back in two weeks I think.

Didnt realise.

Quazzie

pjohnson wrote: »

Oh was that why Brighton let him leave or did that happen since he joined Arsenal?


Didnt realise.

Hip injury. Very recent and only slight.

pjohnson

Quazzie wrote: »

Hip injury. Very recent and only slight.

Thats absolutely shíte luck.

Quazzie

pjohnson wrote: »

Thats absolutely shíte luck.

I suspect he'll be fine for the next game.

Agent Coulson

Sheff Utd back in the race not to finish bottom.

It would be glorious to see Big Sam finish rock bottom.

Guy:Incognito

Quazzie wrote: »

Can't put an injured player on the bench

Not with that attitude

DVDM93

No wins in 8 for Wolves, no losses for Arsenal in 7.

Wolves 2-1 Arsenal.

I love football

~Rebel~

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Sheff Utd back in the race not to finish bottom.

It would be glorious to see Big Sam finish rock bottom.

Great result for them - they're still undoubtedly going down, but it's nice to have the talk of them being the worst ever Prem team fading off, because they're just not. They've been really poor obviously, but it's really been their bluntness going forward that's killed them this season. They're not getting tonked by anyone... they've conceded fewer than Leeds up in 12th, and 17 fewer goals than West Brom.

Fitz*

Southampton have a large injury list for tonight's game.

Just had a look at their bench - they have named 2 goalkeepers, 4 teenagers, a youngster in his debut season, and still don't have enough to fill all the bench positions.

thebaz

DVDM93 wrote: »

No wins in 8 for Wolves, no losses for Arsenal in 7.

Wolves 2-1 Arsenal.

I love football

Mad year , if City can start to slip up , would really make it better - stranger things have happened !

Loafing Oaf

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Sheff Utd back in the race not to finish bottom.

It would be glorious to see Big Sam finish rock bottom.

If they don't start picking up points soon he'll be gone long before the end of the season.

DVDM93

I feel sorry for Arsenal & Arteta tonight.

They came out playing the best football I've seen them play all season.

Saka could have had a hattrick inside 10 minutes & it was looking like they were going to win by a few goals.

I nearly had to check that I wasn't watching Premier League years when Pepe scored in that it was Henry-esque.

This with Saka only back from injury, Aubameyang on the bench & Tierney out injured.

Then, all of a sudden David Luiz remembers that he is David Luiz & makes a mistake in typical fashion & it was all downhill from there.

super_furry

Can't blame Luiz for that, it's entirely on the officials and a terrible decision.

The one good thing from VAR is that it exposes just how poor the standard of Premier League refereeing is.

Ottoman_1000

super_furry wrote: »

Can't blame Luiz for that, it's entirely on the officials and a terrible decision.

The one good thing from VAR is that it exposes just how poor the standard of Premier League refereeing is.

But he fouled him, regardless of how accidental it was its still a foul.

Ffs shocking tackle
Straight red

DVDM93

That's a disgusting challenge, hopefully Scott McTominay gets up OK.

Edit: He's up, great to see, it was a nasty one.