Newcastle vs Citywest vs Saggart

Gatling

v0ldeMort wrote: »

fettercairn/fortunestown road is a couple of hundred metres from citywest shopping centres! The bulldozed Lidl is a just a 2/3 min walk from citywest! Belfry estate is also Citywest btw.

Nothing to do with citywest as a place ,

It's been made out to be a no go ghetto which it's absolutely not

2Mad2BeMad

Gatling wrote: »

Nothing to do with citywest as a place ,

It's been made out to be a no go ghetto which it's absolutely not

Its not a no go ghetto
But it is a **** hole
and it will only get worse.

But like very where, there is some nice areas. Tallaght for example has some really nice areas to live, but has a bad name because there is a few bad areas.

Citywest has some nice areas, but get a map out and draw a circle around the shopping centre and its surrounded by bad areas.
Hell even the new houses that are put up have had some trouble so far from social welfare tenants.

The lidl beside citywest shopping centre literally had a 3year old and a 5 year old turn up inside it both near naked because there mother was too busy getting out of her face in her new "forever home" while the kids walked right out the front door

and thats the fate of all the houses in there once the owners pack up a leave because of anti social nackers ruining it for everyone. Council will buy them up and put more of the same in.

That whole city west area will go the way of fettercairn within the next 20years.

Gatling

2Mad2BeMad wrote: »

Citywest has some nice areas, but get a map out and draw a circle around the shopping centre and its surrounded by bad areas.

One area,it's not surrounded by bad areas ,
Citywest itself is fine ,I work and live in the area ,it's not where near as bad as it's been made to be

v0ldeMort

v0ldeMort wrote: »

fettercairn/fortunestown road is a couple of hundred metres from citywest shopping centres! The bulldozed Lidl is a just a 2/3 min walk from citywest! Belfry estate is also Citywest btw.

So? the name doesn't alter the distance. Its still a good 20/30 minute walk from CW shopping centre to Jobstown or Fettercairn, with multiple estates in between.

As an aside, none of those convicted of looting Lidl were from either Fettercairn or Jobstown. I think a couple of them were visiting from the Northside!

Pixied

Newcastle is getting a Super Valu on the empty site at the entrance to Graydon. Construction was meant to start last month, but covid..

Very good primary school, low crime.
No playing fields for children at the moment, limited facilities for kids to play.
Not much for adults to do at night to socialise, one pub.
Lovely welcoming GAA club. Peamount football club for the kids also.
Great tidy towns work done.
Santa goes through the village every Christmas, and theres a Christmas fete.
Traffic is ok in the mornings.

Eric Cartman

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So? the name doesn't alter the distance. Its still a good 20/30 minute walk from CW shopping centre to Jobstown or Fettercairn, with multiple estates in between.

As an aside, none of those convicted of looting Lidl were from either Fettercairn or Jobstown. I think a couple of them were visiting from the Northside!

There was one lad from clonsilla and one from santry , the rest of them were tallaght locals https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/lidl-jobstown-trial-nine-tallaght-14363863

Man Vs ManUre

Eric Cartman wrote: »

The citywest shopping centre has seen incidents like a drug dealer ploughing a car into another dealer over a dispute, a man show up with a machine gun and theres loads of videos of young lads thumping the head off each other, the areas an absolute kip

Don’t forget, a lad was shot dead outside the driving licence office (side of Eddie rockets just down a small bit) in a gangland setup there 2 or 3 years ago.

Man Vs ManUre

If you drive past Citywest shopping centre coming from Saggart, straight through the junction and on the left is the Lidl that got ransacked during storm Emma.

Gatling

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

If you drive past Citywest shopping centre coming from Saggart, straight through the junction and on the left is the Lidl that got ransacked during storm Emma.

Again nothing to do with citywest as a whole ,

Eric Cartman

Eric Cartman wrote: »

There was one lad from clonsilla and one from santry , the rest of them were tallaght locals https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/lidl-jobstown-trial-nine-tallaght-14363863

Yes, I know. But none of them gave addresses in Fettercairn or Jobstown, and these are the estates that are typically named in these types of threads.

Look, I'm not trying to say that there are no troublemakers from these areas, because there obviously is. More then plenty of them. But not every lad hanging around CW Shopping Centre is from outside the area.

What I am saying is that every area has troublemakers, and Citywest is not immune from it.

I don't think Citywest is that bad right now. But they are throwing up houses and apartments like crazy and there are a lot of younger families in starter homes.

Its fine for now, but thats how every council estate that turned into a ghetto started in the 80s. Thousands of houses, full of young families and not really much else. 8/10 years from now when all those youngsters grow into bored teenagers, and given the density of building, Citywest has the potential to become a **** hole.

I truly hope it doesn't. But I do think they could do with another large Garda Station in the locality, maybe covering CW, Saggart and Rathcoole.

LastStop

Milena009 wrote: »

Kind of to hop onto that one, if i can

We looking at:
Somerton estate - Lucan
Newpark - Adamstown
Graydon - Newcastle

ANY pointers about either one would be welcomed

absolutely confused which one to go with as not familiar with the area at all :eek:
I work in Sandyford, for now. Him in IFSC.

Aren't those all sold out for the current phases and you'll be waiting over a year for next phases.

Milena009

LastStop wrote: »

Aren't those all sold out for the current phases and you'll be waiting over a year for next phases.

They are sold out but the next phase for each are this year ACC to Savills / sherry Fitzgerald ☺️ðŸ 
Graydon is due for launch in march
Somerton and Adamstown April / May ( taking into acc current lockdown).

LastStop

Milena009 wrote: »

They are sold out but the next phase for each are this year ACC to Savills / sherry Fitzgerald ☺️ðŸ 
Graydon is due for launch in march
Somerton and Adamstown April / May ( taking into acc current lockdown).

Thanks. Stupid question time.... When you say will launch.... Is that just, hand over deposit and wait for about a year for your house.

Milena009

LastStop wrote: »

Thanks. Stupid question time.... When you say will launch.... Is that just, hand over deposit and wait for about a year for your house.

So it depends, right.
For example in Newcastle:
You're scheduled for a viewing of showhouse when you pay 5k deposit but you do buy your actual house off of plans
For example my friend bought there of of plans in August and house was ready in November for snagging

v0ldeMort

Milena009 wrote: »

So it depends, right.
For example in Newcastle:
You're scheduled for a viewing of showhouse when you pay 5k deposit but you do buy your actual house off of plans
For example my friend bought there of of plans in August and house was ready in November for snagging

Is that not how most new housing estates sell their houses? My last 2 houses were bought exactly the same way.

Pavilion38

This may be too late for the poster of the thread, but i would recommend Saggart as the best choice.
It's got a decent village, with a small Dunnes, a butcher, centra, doctors, pharmacy even an insomnia. And it's close to Saggart luas.
Using the Luas here gets you a seat in the morning and its 55 min approx to spencer dock.
Citywest shopping centre is close but not too close, and you're are right it does attract a lot of teenagers.
Check out estates, Drury Mills, Crosforge, even Parklands.
Rathcoole Park is close by and there are 5 primary schools and 1 secondary school.

Galwayhurl

Isn't Saggart the place that featured on Joe Duffy last year with people saying that burglars were breaking into houses to such an extent that some people erected barbed wire around their back gardens to stop the burglars coming in the back?

It was a big story for a few days on liveline. Some people rang in and said that the burglars were so brazen they were burglaring in the middle of the day knowing they were seen and not giving a damn.

Don't shoot me, I'm just recalling what I heard!

DubLad69

Galwayhurl wrote: »

Isn't Saggart the place that featured on Joe Duffy last year with people saying that burglars were breaking into houses to such an extent that some people erected barbed wire around their back gardens to stop the burglars coming in the back?

It was a big story for a few days on liveline. Some people rang in and said that the burglars were so brazen they were burglaring in the middle of the day knowing they were seen and not giving a damn.

Don't shoot me, I'm just recalling what I heard!

I don't particularly like any of the areas that are listed here. But I would not let something like that out you off buying in an area. If you set up a decent alarm and CCTV package you can easily over come that. Just be sure to lock up.

wuben

Hi thinking of buying in westpark crescent. Can anyone give any feed back on estate? Thanks