Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2020/2021

giveitholly

MarkY91 wrote: »

If chelsea get 4th spot and sin the CL, does that give a CL spot to 5th place?

Nope

mikeym

MarkY91 wrote: »

If chelsea get 4th spot and win the CL, does that give a CL spot to 5th place?

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56787573

Girly Gal

MarkY91 wrote: »

If chelsea get 4th spot and win the CL, does that give a CL spot to 5th place?

Unless everyone above us absolutely collapses I can't see us getting top 4, we're absolutely muck at the moment. There's a serious amount of work to be done in the summer to revitalize this squad, best we can hope for next season is top 4 and maybe winning the inaugural European Conference! Imagine around this time next year we could be the Conference league winners

brevity

Moar trophies please. Hate ending the season with nothing

BorneTobyWilde

So if we do catch Chelsea to 4th, but they win the CL, and Arsenal was to win Europa League, then 4th will not get us CL.

Thankfully Arsenal have no hope of winning E L

Agent Coulson

Red Bird have just bought into Malaga CF.

The now own Toulouse in France and have share in Malaga in Spain and have a share in Liverpool.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

MarkY91 wrote: »

If chelsea get 4th spot and win the CL, does that give a CL spot to 5th place?

The only way to get in to the CL is either get top 4 or win one of thie previous seasons European competitions.

Doesn't matter what other teams do.

dogbert27

Reports Konate has agreed personal terms

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9547823/RB-Leipzig-defender-Ibrahima-Konate-agrees-personal-terms-Liverpool.html

BorneTobyWilde

Seems strange the United game is moved to a late late kick off, should have played it early before the protesters get up out of bed.
There may be trouble ahead ..

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Seems strange the United game is moved to a late late kick off, should have played it early before the protesters get up out of bed.
There may be trouble ahead ..

Both United's security and the police will be out in force and making sure that no protesters or getting anywhere near the pitch. Once bitten...

fyfe79

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Both United's security and the police will be out in force and making sure that no protesters or getting anywhere near the pitch. Once bitten...

Plus Sky will dictate an evening primetime slot for this tie, always. Nothing else matters.

~Rebel~

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Both United's security and the police will be out in force and making sure that no protesters or getting anywhere near the pitch. Once bitten...

It’s the hotel stuff they need to worry about... that’s what postponed the game, and was where the orchestrated efforts went.

Perhaps a good idea for the team to do a last minute swerve in their plans and meet up elsewhere.

They have Leicester at home before then anyway, so we’ll see what happens with that one.

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dogbert27 wrote: »

Reports Konate has agreed personal terms

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9547823/RB-Leipzig-defender-Ibrahima-Konate-agrees-personal-terms-Liverpool.html

Konate and Kabak in, VVD and Gomez back. Keep Phillips around for the domestic cups or *shudder* Europa, I’d be happy with that. Don’t think Matip can be counted on sadly but we still keep him around.

marklazarcovic

kabak isnt up to it nor will he ever be imo..just cant see it in him.

~Rebel~

marklazarcovic wrote: »

kabak isnt up to it nor will he ever be imo..just cant see it in him.

Would tend to think the opposite... have to factor in his age imo. Any CB who already looks decent at 20/21 is really very much on the right track. He's waaaaay ahead of the game for his age. His reading of the game, and the speed of his decision making are really impressive. He's very good at making the little movements needed to cover angles and stop people getting past him in the box. Confident on the ball too.

The concern I'd have about him at Liverpool specifically is simply his lack of raw pace for playing the way Liverpool want to play. A worse defender who's simply faster would probably suit Klopp better. But I reckon he'll have a very solid career.

TitianGerm

marklazarcovic wrote: »

kabak isnt up to it nor will he ever be imo..just cant see it in him.

How many 21 year old CBs don't you see putting in better performances than him so far?

Edit: he was actually mentioned on a podcast on The Athletic this week (think it was Red Agenda) and they actually said he's one of the faster CBs in the PL but it takes him a few extra strides to get up to max speed.

RonanG86

Steyr 556 wrote: »

Konate and Kabak in, VVD and Gomez back. Keep Phillips around for the domestic cups or *shudder* Europa, I’d be happy with that. Don’t think Matip can be counted on sadly but we still keep him around.

Squad registry might force our hand. We mightn't have room in the squad to keep Matip if we sign both Konate and Kabak.

Unless of course we sell Phillips instead. But he's HG, so even leaving aside Matip's unreliability, it wouldn't make sense to offload Phillips and keep Matip.

Riesen_Meal

https://twitter.com/LFCTransferNRS/status/1390242125594316801?s=20

Have we a new Danny Agger?

lol

~Rebel~

Fieldog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/LFCTransferNRS/status/1390242125594316801?s=20

Have we a new Danny Agger?

lol

Not sure how long he’ll remain 67 if he becomes a regular!

marklazarcovic

TitianGerm wrote: »

How many 21 year old CBs don't you see putting in better performances than him so far?

Edit: he was actually mentioned on a podcast on The Athletic this week (think it was Red Agenda) and they actually said he's one of the faster CBs in the PL but it takes him a few extra strides to get up to max speed.

He just does not suit our game imo.. could work out playing for a different manager,no point being fast if you give fast players a head start,you'll usually loose.

Hopefully he proves me wrong if we sign him.

Agent Coulson

FA Youth Cup semi-final against Ipswich Town will be shown on BT next Wednesday at 6pm.

Blanco100

marklazarcovic wrote: »

He just does not suit our game imo.. could work out playing for a different manager,no point being fast if you give fast players a head start,you'll usually loose.

Hopefully he proves me wrong if we sign him.

If you look at the stats he's actually deceptively quick. Read it on the Athletics profile on him.

Nerdlingr

Always keep in mind with Kabak that's he's only just turned 21 ! He's only two months older than Foden and a year and a half younger than Trent!! He's an absolute baby in CB terms.

He's been brilliant for us. Thrown in at the deep end in the middle of a sh*t season and himself and Philips have stepped up to the plate big time, when other more experienced, exalted players have gone missing. No excuses used of settling in, or different country or different league etc etc. He's just got on with it. Hope we sign him.

.red.

Personally I think signing Kabak is a no brainer,especially for the fee involved.
He's only just turned 21, thrown in at the deep end of what is realistically a team struggling for form and consistency. The only actual centre backs he's played with are nowhere near good enough for Liverpool and he's just got on with things, very efficiently.
If he played 30 games next season, paired with a proper, senior centre back I think we'd see a completely different player.

The only issue is if the money is seen as a priority elsewhere. I think we'd regret not signing him in a year or two if we don't go for it.

BorneTobyWilde

All Arsenal needed was a lousy goal to possibly ruin our season, but as it stands 4th place will be enough .

Widdensushi

What age is Kabak??

noodler

I think it's a reach to sign him for 18m based more on his age than performances.

Another body was the priority at Xmas but I'd prefer if we were pickier now.

~Rebel~

noodler wrote: »

I think it's a reach to sign him for 18m based more on his age than performances.

Another body was the priority at Xmas but I'd prefer if we were pickier now.

It would appear Konate is the pick for right now - but if the investment money was available, buying Kabak and even just loaning him out would likely see us make a profit in a year or two.

Imo he’s worth 18m from his performances alone - his age makes him much more valuable.

Alonso77

Kabak strikes me as one of those defenders who looks a bit daft in his youth but has something about him - similar to lads like Carra who looked kinda clumsy early on in their career but blossomed later - defo one to keep if possible

Zak Flaps

.red. wrote: »

Personally I think signing Kabak is a no brainer,especially for the fee involved.
He's only just turned 21, thrown in at the deep end of what is realistically a team struggling for form and consistency. The only actual centre backs he's played with are nowhere near good enough for Liverpool and he's just got on with things, very efficiently.
If he played 30 games next season, paired with a proper, senior centre back I think we'd see a completely different player.

The only issue is if the money is seen as a priority elsewhere. I think we'd regret not signing him in a year or two if we don't go for it.

Would he get 30 games next season with a fit VVD, Gomez and Konate ahead of him? I don't think so. He may end up getting only 10 games or so, which could hinder his development.
I think he's a very good prospect. I hope they sign him and give him plenty of games.

.red.

Zak Flaps wrote: »

Would he get 30 games next season with a fit VVD, Gomez and Konate ahead of him? I don't think so. He may end up getting only 10 games or so, which could hinder his development.
I think he's a very good prospect. I hope they sign him and give him plenty of games.

There's a good chance VVD and Gomez will have a few niggly muscle injuries after such long lay offs. Matip is made of glass. All 3 will have to be wrapped in cotton wool, especially the first few months back.
Konate is also only 21 and has barely played this season due to injury.

Agent Coulson

Agent Coulson

https://twitter.com/Rovers/status/1390608597084606464?s=20

What a night.




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Agent Coulson

Say nothing :pac:

Gbear

The absolute ****ing state of us if we can't get top four this season.

Charlie19

Gbear wrote: »

The absolute ****ing state of us if we can't get top four this season.

There's always next season.

Utopia Parkway

Gbear wrote: »

The absolute ****ing state of us if we can't get top four this season.

Had we even held on a few minutes against Leeds and Newcastle we’d be in a strong position. Immensely frustrating. Much like most of the season.

Gbear

Our run in is going to be emblematic of our season. We're going to get chance after chance, trip over our own dicks repeatedly, and then our opponents are going to stumble over themselves as they beat us to the line.

BorneTobyWilde

_________Alisson__________

___Philips________Kabak____

Trent________________Robertson
_________Fabinho__________

______Thiago__Milner________

Salah______Jota____Oxlade_________

Kill em that way

Agent Coulson

9 points behind Leicester with two games in hand.

Do Leicester now focus on Man U on Tuesday or the FA Cup final next weekend.

Will Man U play the kids against Leicester saving the full strength team against us on Thursday.

LuckyLloyd

Gbear wrote: »

Our run in is going to be emblematic of our season. We're going to get chance after chance, trip over our own dicks repeatedly, and then our opponents are going to stumble over themselves as they beat us to the line.

Leicester losing is irrelevant? We can’t catch them now.

4th is gone, sooner you accept the better.

Agent Coulson

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Leicester losing is irrelevant? We can’t catch them now.

4th is gone, sooner you accept the better.

If we don't get top 4 I would much rather see West Ham get it over Leicester City that's for sure.


I don't want Leicester building on the back of Champions League money let them sell there players to fund the squad not get Champions League money to improve it.

So Leicester losing is very relevant to us for next season alone even if we aren't in the Champions League.

BorneTobyWilde

I knew we'd see a huge reaction from Newcastle after clown show against Arsenal

BorneTobyWilde

Chelsea have a nightmare run in, while West Ham have a walk in the park. But we too should be winning every remaining game.
Leicester too have United Away, Chelsea Away, Spurs at home

If we can get it together 4th is there

Agent Coulson

Forbes released there most valuable sports teams of 2021.


Liverpool are 12th $4.1B and The Red Sox $3.47B are 20th.


Man U are 11th at $4.2B

The 3 football teams in the top 10 are Barca $4.76B, Madrid $4.75B, Munich at $4.21B

mada999

Agent Coulson wrote: »

If we don't get top 4 I would much rather see West Ham get it over Leicester City that's for sure.


I don't want Leicester building on the back of Champions League money let them sell there players to fund the squad not get Champions League money to improve it.

So Leicester losing is very relevant to us for next season alone even if we aren't in the Champions League.

wouldn't like to see another team from London rising up.. although i cant see West Ham getting so high in the table next year if they dont get top 4

Utopia Parkway

BorneTobyWilde

................and then we go and lose to Southampton

Calvin

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

_________Alisson__________

___Philips________Kabak____

Trent________________Robertson
_________Fabinho__________

______Thiago__Milner________

Salah______Jota____Oxlade_________

Kill em that way

Jesus, I know Mane is in bad form but not a hope with Ox. I’d rather give it Shaqiri.