Is JJ Hanrahan Irish?

Niallof9

Yeah sorry Crowley, momentarily mix up with Leinster prospect Tim!

Statistically Hanrahan is ranked among the top 12 outhalves in Europe this season.

He really does get a rough ride. Munster fans treatment of players is toxic and deluded at times.

irelandrover

normanbond wrote: »

Ireland are heading for an underwhelming 6 nations. Our manager is underperforming as is our no 10. Johnny Sexton was a fantastic 10 but his best years are behind him. He’s no longer grabbing the post match headlines as he rarely finishes games. Sometimes think that recently he goes to ground easily after a heavy tackle and grabs sympathy as he leaves the pitch grumbling in an overt manner.
We need immediate cover for his spot. The Byrnes and Burns? have ability but are not yet starting the big club games on a consistent basis.
Where do we look to for our immediate cover no. 10?
JJ Hanrahan, top club scorer last year and again this years form guy.
.....strange that on that form he’s not even brought into the Irish training camp where he can be pushed further.
Jack Carty? yes he deserves consideration ....

He is top scorer as he isnt away for internationals so plays more matches. And he is not the form guy this season. A lot of Munster fans wanted him dropped for Healy a few weeks ago.

lawrencesummers

JJs problem isn’t his nationality.

It’s his consistency.

If he played every game consistently at something like the level he did against Clermont he would be in contention.

He has had some excellent games over the years, some performances worthy of international consideration, it’s just all to often it’s followed or preceded by a bad performance.

His ship has set sail unfortunately because his promise as a 20year old was massive, if I was him I would be off to France next season, try and get a two year deal in the Top14, then maybe a two year deal in D2 because Carbery will be straight back ahead of him upon his return and Healy / Crowley are on the way up.

aloooof

Niallof9 wrote: »

Yeah sorry Crowley, momentarily mix up with Leinster prospect Tim!

Statistically Hanrahan is ranked among the top 12 outhalves in Europe this season.

What statistics? If it's just place kicking %, that's only one aspect of a 10's job. (And typically doesn't have difficulty of kick built into that stat).

Niallof9 wrote: »

He really does get a rough ride. Munster fans treatment of players is toxic and deluded at times.

It's no better and no worse than other fans, tbh.

hahashake

ScissorPaperRock wrote: »

Well if he is Irish why doesn't he just show everyone his birth cert?

ScissorPaperRock: So what's the Irish for 30 percent?
JJ O'Hanraha-hanrahan: Trenter percenter.

aloooof

hahashake wrote: »

ScissorPaperRock: So what's the Irish for 30 percent?
JJ O'Hanraha-hanrahan: Trenter percenter.

This is superb.

razorblunt

pickarooney wrote: »

Colin Corkery, might be 50 but still has the instincts.

Stone? He’d make a handy prop.

normanbond

Andy Farrell has brought in Leinster’s 3rd choice fly-half into the Irish squad for the French game. Still no room for Ireland’s form player in this position JJ Hanrahan. This only makes sense if the IRFU are skint and can’t afford the extra travelling expenses from Munster!
15 Leinster players v 4 Munster players in the match day set up tells its own story.

wirelessdude01

normanbond wrote: »

Andy Farrell has brought in Leinster’s 3rd choice fly-half into the Irish squad for the French game. Still no room for Ireland’s form player in this position JJ Hanrahan. This only makes sense if the IRFU are skint and can’t afford the extra travelling expenses from Munster!
15 Leinster players v 4 Munster players in the match day set up tells its own story.

JJ is a busted flush at the top level, pro whatever is the equivalent of AIL.

bayern

normanbond wrote: »

15 Leinster players v 4 Munster players in the match day set up tells its own story.

What's munsters record against leinster in the last 10 games again?

Cookiemunster

normanbond wrote: »

Andy Farrell has brought in Leinster’s 3rd choice fly-half into the Irish squad for the French game. Still no room for Ireland’s form player in this position JJ Hanrahan. This only makes sense if the IRFU are skint and can’t afford the extra travelling expenses from Munster!
15 Leinster players v 4 Munster players in the match day set up tells its own story.

Seriously dude, are you JJs agent or something? He's 28 and has had multiple coaches not rate him as first choice for his club, never mind think that he's international level. He's currently only barely first choice at Munster (8 starts v Healys 5 starts) because Carbery is injured and Beyendaal had to retire.
He has a level, which is Pro14.

And what 15 v 4 tells us is that POM is banned, Murray and Killer are injured and Leinster have been better than Munster for quite a long time.

yosser hughes

normanbond wrote: »

15 Leinster players v 4 Munster players in the match day set up tells its own story.

Yes it does tell its own story. What do you think it tells Norman? Come out and say what it tells you.

Paul Smeenus

hahashake wrote: »

ScissorPaperRock: So what's the Irish for 30 percent?
JJ O'Hanraha-hanrahan: Trenter percenter.

JJ: I don't like it, but I'll have to go along with it.

thomas 123

bayern wrote: »

What's munsters record against leinster in the last 10 games again?

Our issue is exactly this, France have 20 teams bartering each other week in week out. The results of that are showing now.

Yes Leinster and Munster might compete for the Champions cup and even win it but the player pool and competition France and even England have will leave us in the dust long term.

Why are second string Leinster players getting called into the Irish squad? God only knows. And for the record if it was a second string Munster/Ulster/Connaught player called into the team I’d be saying exactly the same.

thomas 123

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Seriously dude, are you JJs agent or something? He's 28 and has had multiple coaches not rate him as first choice for his club, never mind think that he's international level. He's currently only barely first choice at Munster (8 starts v Healys 5 starts) because Carbery is injured and Beyendaal had to retire.
He has a level, which is Pro14.

And what 15 v 4 tells us is that POM is banned, Murray and Killer are injured and Leinster have been better than Munster for quite a long time.

Don’t forget a large portion of Munsters starting team is also South African.

bayern

thomas 123 wrote: »

Our issue is exactly this, France have 20 teams bartering each other week in week out. The results of that are showing now.

Yes Leinster and Munster might compete for the Champions cup and even win it but the player pool and competition France and even England have will leave us in the dust long term.

Why are second string Leinster players getting called into the Irish squad? God only knows. And for the record if it was a second string Munster/Ulster/Connaught player called into the team I’d be saying exactly the same.

Because they are better than their competition or at least the coaches think they are.

Cookiemunster

thomas 123 wrote: »

Don’t forget a large portion of Munsters starting team is also South African.

A large portion? 6 out of a squad of 43 and 4 of them are Irish qualified.
And only 3 of them (2 IQ) are in the starting team.

aloooof

thomas 123 wrote: »

Our issue is exactly this, France have 20 teams bartering each other week in week out. The results of that are showing now.

How do you explain the last decade then, Thomas?

normanbond

thomas 123 wrote: »

Don’t forget a large portion of Munsters starting team is also South African.

????
De Allende is the only South African in the Munster team .....
1/15th is not a large portion 😆

Cookiemunster

normanbond wrote: »

????
De Allende is the only South African in the Munster team .....
1/15th is not a large portion 😆

Stander, Kleyn, Cloete and Knox, while Irish qualified and all South African.

thomas 123

thomas 123 wrote: »

Don’t forget a large portion of Munsters starting team is also South African.

Worth going doing a few math lessons I would say

almostover

pickarooney wrote: »

Colin Corkery, might be 50 but still has the instincts.

His portly physique would stand to him as a 10, a la the Leinster great Eddie Hekenui

Fredinho

thomas 123 wrote:

Don’t forget a large portion of Munsters starting team is also South African.

And how many non Leinster lads have they in their starting 15 or extended 23

Fardy Aussie, Ruddock Welsh, Doris connacht, JGP new Zealand, Lowe new Zealand, henshaw connacht, Cronin Munster etc

We can do this all the way round the provinces but what does it matter. They're Irish players playing for Irish teams, what does it matter.

The Inbetween is mine

Fredinho wrote: »

And how many non Leinster lads have they in their starting 15 or extended 23

Fardy Aussie, Ruddock Welsh, Doris connacht, JGP new Zealand, Lowe new Zealand, henshaw connacht, Cronin Munster etc

We can do this all the way round the provinces but what does it matter. They're Irish players playing for Irish teams, what does it matter.

Except poor JJ it seems

normanbond

I see Clermont have signed JJ Hanrahan.
Farrell has at last a legitimate reason for not selecting him for the Irish rugby camp!

prawnsambo

normanbond wrote: »

I see Clermont have signed JJ Hanrahan.
Farrell has at last a legitimate reason for not selecting him for the Irish rugby camp!

Apart from all the reasons given here that you seem to have ignored. :rolleyes:

irishbucsfan

normanbond wrote: »

I see Clermont have signed JJ Hanrahan.
Farrell has at last a legitimate reason for not selecting him for the Irish rugby camp!

Farrell didn’t select him for the same reason Munster didn’t offer him a new contract

wirelessdude01

normanbond wrote: »

I see Clermont have signed JJ Hanrahan.
Farrell has at last a legitimate reason for not selecting him for the Irish rugby camp!

The fact he just isn't at and will never reach the required level is reason enough.