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Are people going to be smart over Easter

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    #32
    latency89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 137 ✭✭latency89


    growleaves wrote: »
    Since they're talking about closing down next winter, if we stay closed down for the first four months of the year we're talking about roughly 2/3rds of the year in lockdown.

    Unheard of for the Black Death, Spanish Flu etc.

    You would think we were battling the plagues prophesied in the Book of Revelation, walking down city streets stepping over dead bodies.

    Is sitting in a room alone separated from other people now our most cherished custom?

    Some progress ehh

    School closed longer than they are open

    Did they have school in 1918?


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    #33
    freshpopcorn
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    Just go like this OP!
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    #34
    trixi001
    Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭trixi001


    Probably - but only because of location - although Easter isn't a major celebration in our house, but it might have been this year if parents were vaccinated on time, as we didn't have Christmas

    Parents (and most other family & friends) live 100 mile away, and although both have now had there vaccinations, it will be 12-15 weeks to cover 2nd dose plus 3 weeks for it to be fully active, and they won't let me stay over until then

    After this, i will be travelling the 100 miles once every 3 weeks, like i have done before, having dinner with them, staying over night etc. no stupid travel or 5km ban or ban on social visits will stop me..

    Time with family is precious, parents are getting older, who knows how much longer they will be around for - or anyone for that matter - anyone could die tomorrow, and have spent a year alone...is this what we really want for our loved ones?


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    #35
    JimmyVik
    Registered Users Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Schools shouldnt be back until after Easter.
    Restrictions shouldnt be lifted, bar maybe the 5km limit, because thats the worst part for people.

    Than after Easter holidays we should have a good portion vaccinated and we can start winding down the restrictions coming into the summer.

    Open the schools and lift restrictions before that and we are all going to end up locked up for the summer.


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    #36
    o1s1n
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    Master of the Universe


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    We dont need to be covid free - we just need to "Live with covid"

    The first lockdown was so the health service could be given time to prepare for further waves of this virus - they didnt prepare so they werent ready for waves 2 or 3 and we end up in this 12 week lock down. Had the government planned properly we could be at a level of 2 or 3 with the economy partly open while hospitals dealt with surges and protected our vulnerable which was the plan along along.

    The only people in the wrong here are our beloved overlords who in all reality couldnt run a race.

    Do you know anyone working on the frontline in hospitals at the moment and have you heard what they are going through? I work with a lot of nurses, doctor and paramedics and it's not pretty. And that's with the lockdowns.

    As much as I absolutely hate these lockdowns, there's no such thing as 'living with covid' until we all get vaccinated, it just won't work.

    Christmas was a glimpse of that, the numbers skyrocketed.


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    #37
    growleaves
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    o1s1n wrote: »
    Do you know anyone working on the frontline in hospitals at the moment and have you heard what they are going through? I work with a lot of nurses, doctor and paramedics and it's not pretty. And that's with the lockdowns.

    As much as I absolutely hate these lockdowns, there's no such thing as 'living with covid' until we all get vaccinated, it just won't work.

    Christmas was a glimpse of that, the numbers skyrocketed.

    They're already talking about continuing the lockdowns after vaccination.

    The real question is will you be able to put your foot down at some point or will you just accept shifting justifications for lockdown year on year?


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    #38
    trixi001
    Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭trixi001


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Do you know anyone working on the frontline in hospitals at the moment and have you heard what they are going through? I work with a lot of nurses, doctor and paramedics and it's not pretty. And that's with the lockdowns.

    As much as I absolutely hate these lockdowns, there's no such thing as 'living with covid' until we all get vaccinated, it just won't work.

    Christmas was a glimpse of that, the numbers skyrocketed.

    Christmas skyrocketed because of lockdowns... Trying to restrict all Christmas activities to a shorter period of time and having lockdowns before and after it... people were socialising at possibly a higher rate than normal, as everyone knew it would be months before they were allowed to again!
    Opening and closing things causes pent up demand - which ultimately contributes to higher cases..


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    #39
    copeyhagen
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    mullinr2 wrote: »
    in order for schools to remain open from April to end of school year. What do you think is going to happen if we allow barbers, restaurants etc to reopen over Easter. A resurgence in case numbers followed by another Lockdown and school closures.

    o give it a rest, the majority of cases over last 2 weeks were 85+, are they out drinking lattes in the cafes, or drinking pints, or getting their hair cut.

    or do you think they all could be...lets guess.. in nursing homes?


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    #40
    copeyhagen
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    o1s1n wrote: »
    Do you know anyone working on the frontline in hospitals at the moment and have you heard what they are going through? I work with a lot of nurses, doctor and paramedics and it's not pretty. And that's with the lockdowns.

    As much as I absolutely hate these lockdowns, there's no such thing as 'living with covid' until we all get vaccinated, it just won't work.

    Christmas was a glimpse of that, the numbers skyrocketed.

    arent hospitals the exat same as this every year but due to flu?


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    #41
    [Deleted User]
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    Hellrazer wrote: »
    At the minute the main vectors for transmission are hospitals - sure why dont we close them for 3 months???

    Its definitely not barbers / hairdressers / clothes shops / etc.

    Its not even pubs or restaurants or even international travel.

    Its always something else except what the government has control over ie hospitals / nursing homes.

    Did you get a knock on the head? The places listed are closed so the number is going down fast. Do you not see the concorde of the two?


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    #42
    [Deleted User]
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    latency89 wrote: »

    I will be enjoying my easter, i'm a threat to no one if immunity exists

    Hi Donald, how's retirement treating you?


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    #43
    FlubberJones
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    Who "celebrates" Easter these days, its a bank holiday like any other and I work BH anyway so it literally means ZERO to me... The idea that people will return to cramming themselves in houses to slobber and cough all over each other JUST BECASUE ITS EASTER is just rediculous.

    Stay home and fill your faces with kitkat eggs... or go outside or maybe to a shopping centre but stay away from the get togethers.


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    #44
    average_runner
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    Palmach wrote: »
    Don't give the saddos ideas. I have a family gathering planned for Easter. If the HSE is too incompetent to have over 65s vaccinated by then it's not my problem.




    Well if they don't have the vaccine, they can't really do much.




    Nice attitude though. Wonder why xmas was a massive success


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    #45
    Russman
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    copeyhagen wrote: »
    arent hospitals the exat same as this every year but due to flu?


    What, with basically all elective surgeries cancelled ? No, they're not like this every year. They're frequently full alright in a bad flu year, but there are some people out there who are saying COVID might not be flu. Mad I know.


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    #46
    average_runner
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    copeyhagen wrote: »
    o give it a rest, the majority of cases over last 2 weeks were 85+, are they out drinking lattes in the cafes, or drinking pints, or getting their hair cut.

    or do you think they all could be...lets guess.. in nursing homes?




    And how does it get into the nursing homes ?????


    Ever hear of community transmission. People having too many social contacts at xmas caused the rise in cases and it got into nursing homes via the community transmission


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    #47
    latency89
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Hi Donald, how's retirement treating you?

    Pretty good my friend.

    Since I got covid it's improved, meet up with friends and family regularly now, they don't fear me and I don't fear them, outlook changes a bit after you get it


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    #48
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    latency89 wrote: »
    Since I got covid it's improved, meet up with friends and family regularly now, they don't fear me and I don't fear them, outlook changes a bit after you get it

    Something changes alright.


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    #49
    iamwhoiam
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    copeyhagen wrote: »
    o give it a rest, the majority of cases over last 2 weeks were 85+, are they out drinking lattes in the cafes, or drinking pints, or getting their hair cut.

    or do you think they all could be...lets guess.. in nursing homes?

    Do you think Covid snuck in through the window into nursing homes ?
    It came from the community .


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    #50
    latency89
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    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Do you think Covid snuck in through the window into nursing homes ?
    It came from the community .

    How do you know? They are allowed outside as well.

    You do know they don't test residents in nursing homes unless they show symptoms, while staff get tested every 2 weeks? Residents can be spreading it silently in there to staff and they give it to community

    They've all been vaccinated anyway, not a huge concern anymore.


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    #51
    growleaves
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    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Do you think Covid snuck in through the window into nursing homes ?
    It came from the community .

    Do you admit that we cannot stay locked down 12 months out of the year every year?

    Even though we could end up spending 8 months of this year in lockdown the elderly will still get respiratory illnesses, which is the commonest cause of death amongst the elderly in the world.

    The fact of being mortal can't be legislated for.


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    #52
    weldoninhio
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    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Yep the ones advocating lock downs for another 2 months.

    We gotta lockdown to stop us from being lockdowned, man!!


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    #53
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    growleaves wrote: »
    Do you admit that we cannot stay locked down 12 months out of the year every year?

    Even though we could end up spending 8 months of this year in lockdown the elderly will still get respiratory illnesses, which is the commonest cause of death amongst the elderly in the world.

    The fact of being mortal can't be legislated for.
    I made no point except that Covid enters the nursing homes via the community . Nothing more nothing less .


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    #54
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    latency89 wrote: »
    How do you know? They are allowed outside as well.

    You do know they don't test residents in nursing homes unless they show symptoms, while staff get tested every 2 weeks? Residents can be spreading it silently in there to staff and they give it to community

    They've all been vaccinated anyway, not a huge concern anymore.

    It came from the community regardless !
    If they went out it came from the community !


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    #55
    Jim_Hodge
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    latency89 wrote: »
    How do you know? They are allowed outside as well.

    You do know they don't test residents in nursing homes unless they show symptoms, while staff get tested every 2 weeks? Residents can be spreading it silently in there to staff and they give it to community

    They've all been vaccinated anyway, not a huge concern anymore.

    Just for the sake of sake of accuracy. There has been testing of all residents with or without symptoms.


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    #56
    pottokblue
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    I dont know about easter still a few weeks away but this is the 1st year I'll be smart over cheltenham I'll be watching it with cans instead of pints and I'll be doing fantasy placepots/scoop6s/L15s....Unless taoiseach and tanaiste decide to ease restrictions for nonessentiall shops when I'll probably rapidly deterioriate back to my foolish mug baseline....


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    #57
    latency89
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    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    It came from the community regardless !
    If they went out it came from the community !

    Correction

    It came in on a plane


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    #58
    growleaves
    Registered Users Posts: 7,859 ✭✭✭growleaves


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I made no point except that Covid enters the nursing homes via the community . Nothing more nothing less .

    I know that. I just asked you a question.


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    #59
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    latency89 wrote: »
    Correction

    It came in on a plane

    Do you think it parachuted down into nursing homes !!


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    #60
    latency89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 137 ✭✭latency89


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Do you think it parachuted down into nursing homes !!

    It came from China and later made its way into our nursing homes


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    #61
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    latency89 wrote: »
    It came from China and later made its way into our nursing homes

    Indeed , via the community .


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