Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

faceman · 02-03-2021 10:32am

Valencia region is publishing its vaccine plan for the next phase in April. Similar population to Ireland and there’ll be 400,000 vaccines a week from the first week in April.

Ireland by comparison, again with a similar population will only be doing 250,000 a week from April.

Austria has broken rank with the EU and is joining with Denmark and Israel for researching further vaccines to tackle mutations.

Ireland is going to be lagging way behind by June.

ginoginelli · 02-03-2021 10:53am

dmcsweeney wrote: »

What happened to the €2000 fine, did that one die a death? I assume it's still at €500 at the moment?

It's being brought in. Fingers crossed it gets raised even higher.

faceman · 02-03-2021 11:04am

ginoginelli wrote: »

It's being brought in. Fingers crossed it gets raised even higher.

Would you support a similar fine introduced for confirmed cases and close contacts who don’t quarantine and self isolate?

Father Hernandez · 02-03-2021 11:18am

Deleted User wrote: »

If they are considering passing legislation to ban issuance of visas for all hotel quarantine countries, it would mean that there’d never be a chance of any mandatory quarantine for any EU country, the UK or the USA (the latter for political reasons). That is fine with me if that’s where we land with this. That’s the overwhelming about of our tourism and family / personal travel. It basically kills the whole ZC conversation

For the amount of expats living in Ireland from the Category 2 countries, I don't see how anyone is fine with that.

There is a massive amount of expats that contribute greatly to Ireland and basically giving them the two fingers IMO.

Lots of variants originated in the UK yet not on the ban list (there is an argument due to border), USA one of the worst affected countries in the world. Regardless, Austria is on that list and in the EU.

Micky 32 · 02-03-2021 11:35am

ginoginelli wrote: »

It's being brought in. Fingers crossed it gets raised even higher.

I think your futile dream of aviation collapsing in the future is a pipe one. Travel will begin to resume later on in the year whether you like it or not. Once the masses are vaccinated the EU will be putting pressure on things to start moving again. People have families abroad and will see them again.

ginoginelli · 02-03-2021 12:08pm

Micky 32 wrote: »

I think your futile dream of aviation collapsing in the future is a pipe one. Travel will begin to resume later on in the year whether you like it or not. Once the masses are vaccinated the EU will be putting pressure on things to start moving again. People have families abroad and will see them again.

Quite the contrary. I cant wait to travel again. But when it's safe.

I'm even optimistic we could be flying again by summer if the vaccine passport system is up and running.

It's the selfish, scummy people flying out to lanzo for 2 weeks, endangering the public, and potentially unravelling all the hard work we have done here that I want to see prohibited and punished.

Throw the book at them.

Ray Donovan · 02-03-2021 12:19pm

ginoginelli wrote: »

Quite the contrary. I cant wait to travel again. But when it's safe.

I'm even optimistic we could be flying again by summer if the vaccine passport system is up and running.

It's the selfish, scummy people flying out to lanzo for 2 weeks, endangering the public, and potentially unravelling all the hard work we have done here that I want to see prohibited and punished.

Throw the book at them.

I'm going to Lanzo for 3 weeks in July so you can throw 1.5 books at me.

Acosta · 02-03-2021 12:23pm

ginoginelli wrote: »

It's the selfish, scummy people flying out to lanzo for 2 weeks, endangering the public, and potentially unravelling all the hard work we have done here that I want to see prohibited and punished.

Throw the book at them.

Yeah, those degenerates. Coming back here with their negative covid tests putting everyone at risk.

a clanger · 02-03-2021 12:23pm

ginoginelli wrote: »

Quite the contrary. I cant wait to travel again. But when it's safe.

I'm even optimistic we could be flying again by summer if the vaccine passport system is up and running.

It's the selfish, scummy people flying out to lanzo for 2 weeks, endangering the public, and potentially unravelling all the hard work we have done here that I want to see prohibited and punished.

Throw the book at them.

I don't get this faux outrage in Ireland ! When we were the 'worst in the world' in early January we were 4 times the infection rate of "Lanzo". Even now they have half or less of our rate and have a better health care system HERE
If anything they should have Ireland on a blocked list since Jan and have kept us out as opposed us not being allowed to leave. It's safer to be in The Canaries than Ireland

josip · 02-03-2021 12:25pm

Ray Donovan wrote: »

I'm going to Lanzo for 3 weeks in July so you can throw 1.5 books at me.

I don't think the book throwing is expected to last until July

I haven't been in contact with any throwers, but I doubt if any of them are so detached from reality as to be still throwing in the middle of the summer when most of us are vaccinated and Europe has returned to normal.
I think you'll find that they'll have put their books back on the shelf by the end of April.

faceman · 02-03-2021 12:29pm

ginoginelli wrote: »

Quite the contrary. I cant wait to travel again. But when it's safe.

I'm even optimistic we could be flying again by summer if the vaccine passport system is up and running.

It's the selfish, scummy people flying out to lanzo for 2 weeks, endangering the public, and potentially unravelling all the hard work we have done here that I want to see prohibited and punished.

Throw the book at them.

While now is not the time for holidays, someone who does go for 2 weeks to Lanzarote is hardly a beacon of grave danger to Ireland given Lanzarote has lower rates than Ireland and no prevailing mutant variant of concern

(Unlike Ireland.)

Also what do you mean by “when it’s safe”?

Ray Donovan · 02-03-2021 12:29pm

josip wrote: »

I don't think the book throwing is expected to last until July
I haven't been in contact with any throwers, but I doubt if any of them are so detached from reality as to be still throwing in the middle of the summer when most of us are vaccinated and Europe has returned to normal.
I think you'll find that they'll have put their books back on the shelf by the end of April.

NPHET and RTE's bookshelf and by extension the general public's always has spare books lying around ready to be flung.

Del Griffith · 02-03-2021 12:30pm

josip wrote: »

I don't think the book throwing is expected to last until July
I haven't been in contact with any throwers, but I doubt if any of them are so detached from reality as to be still throwing in the middle of the summer when most of us are vaccinated and Europe has returned to normal.
I think you'll find that they'll have put their books back on the shelf by the end of April.

We'll see..

Plumbthedepths · 02-03-2021 12:34pm

I don't get this sneering at Spanish destinations, although I prefer further afield myself.

dmcsweeney · 02-03-2021 12:36pm

ginoginelli wrote: »

It's being brought in. Fingers crossed it gets raised even higher.

A Joe Duffy listener Im guessing?? People have suffered enough through this pandemic and should be allowed a little hope of escaping this dump for the summer ahead. Why are you all about fining people leaving this country when anyone can roll in here?

josip · 02-03-2021 12:41pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I don't get this sneering at Spanish destinations, although I prefer further afield myself.

You'll find terms such as "grubby foreigners" mixed in there also.
Quelle surprise.

Tazz T · 02-03-2021 12:50pm

dmcsweeney wrote: »

What happened to the €2000 fine, did that one die a death? I assume it's still at €500 at the moment?

Can't find a link but it was approved yesterday. Gone to be signed by someone or other.

Apparently they're debating an amendment. There will be a firing squad of librarians throwing books at those 'selfish, scummy' holidaymakers returning from Lanzo at arrivals.

It's only a temporary measure and only expected to remain in place until the USC goes.

agoodpunt · 02-03-2021 1:37pm

2k they know it will be tested if introduced, passing through next wk on essential travel wont be coming back anytime soon
Will get vaccinated in my opened city of residence in the near future

fran38 · 02-03-2021 6:59pm

Ray Donovan wrote: »

I'm going to Lanzo for 3 weeks in July so you can throw 1.5 books at me.

Love it. Enjoy pal ðŸ™‚

fran38 · 02-03-2021 7:04pm

Prob not the forum for this question but has anyone been contacted by those passenger locator form people after coming home? And have ye gone for another PCR test within five days of arriving back? I'm thinking of doing one coz I'm finding my pals are a bit squeamish about meeting me lol.

faceman · 02-03-2021 7:18pm

fran38 wrote: »

Prob not the forum for this question but has anyone been contacted by those passenger locator form people after coming home? And have ye gone for another PCR test within five days of arriving back? I'm thinking of doing one coz I'm finding my pals are a bit squeamish about meeting me lol.

My first trip back to Ireland last year I was contacted by text and a missed call (no voicemail). My second trip back there was no communication.

You are required by law to isolate for 14 days assuming youre not on the category 2 list. After 5 days you can take PCR test and if negative you're freeeeeeee!

fran38 · 02-03-2021 7:26pm

faceman wrote: »

My first trip back to Ireland last year I was contacted by text and a missed call (no voicemail). My second trip back there was no communication.

You are required by law to isolate for 14 days assuming youre not on the category 2 list. After 5 days you can take PCR test and if negative you're freeeeeeee!

Its within five days not after five days isn't it?

lonestargirl · 02-03-2021 7:32pm

Nope, it’s after five days. Same way close contacts are tested day five. Gives time for something to get to the stage of being detectable if you picked it up while traveling.

caveat emptor · 02-03-2021 7:33pm

Just a heads up there lads for those thinking of booking a getaway to pontins.
They seemed to have tried to ban half of Ireland based on Surnames.
Hopefully other UK holiday companies don't try do the same.
Surely it's illegal under EU law.

https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/1366693397654876161?s=20

a clanger · 02-03-2021 7:38pm

fran38 wrote: »

Prob not the forum for this question but has anyone been contacted by those passenger locator form people after coming home? And have ye gone for another PCR test within five days of arriving back? I'm thinking of doing one coz I'm finding my pals are a bit squeamish about meeting me lol.

LOL...I'm not sure you are meant to be meeting "pals" regardless of PCR

fran38 · 02-03-2021 7:46pm

lonestargirl wrote: »

Nope, it’s after five days. Same way close contacts are tested day five. Gives time for something to get to the stage of being detectable if you picked it up while traveling.

Makes sense. Thanks

Ray Donovan · 02-03-2021 7:47pm

caveat emptor wrote: »

Just a heads up there lads for those thinking of booking a getaway to pontins.
They seemed to have tried to ban half of Ireland based on Surnames.
Hopefully other UK holiday companies don't try do the same.
Surely it's illegal under EU law.

https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/1366693397654876161?s=20

Company tries to avoid travellers entering their premises. Don’t see the problem myself.

normanoffside · 02-03-2021 7:57pm

fran38 wrote: »

Prob not the forum for this question but has anyone been contacted by those passenger locator form people after coming home? And have ye gone for another PCR test within five days of arriving back? I'm thinking of doing one coz I'm finding my pals are a bit squeamish about meeting me lol.

I got 3 or 4 automated texts including a 'thank you' one on the 14th day.
No calls or anything like that.
I didn't go for a test after 5 days as there was nothing to do anyway so I couldn't be bothered with the expense and discomfort of another test.

caveat emptor · 02-03-2021 8:35pm

Ray Donovan wrote: »

Company tries to avoid travellers entering their premises. Don’t see the problem myself.

So preventing people from holidaying based on surname is grand?

It's stupid and will probably cause people to end up anglicising their surnames further.

Del Griffith · 02-03-2021 8:45pm

caveat emptor wrote: »

So preventing people from holidaying based on surname is grand?

It's stupid and will probably cause people to end up anglicising their surnames further.

Not really a covid issue. Likely the same people targeted, find the pubs in an Irish town close when they're having a funeral.

Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

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