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Why are 'anti racist' NGO's so racist to the Irish? *Threadbanned user list in OP*
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The problem for people that take issue with this is if there is legitimate arguments about NGOs, the people on social media that scream the loudest about it are usually vile racists, amongst other things. I'm not really referring the posters here, but on Twitter that's certainly the case. Most of these people would actually do their larger agenda of being against multiculturalism in general some good by deleting their social media accounts. They influence nobody outside their small circle and only do more harm to issues they care about.
I think it's the effect of how entrenched they are in their own bubbles where they spout racist stuff and like and thank each other all day in those spaces. They are out of touch with regular people and don't have the intellect or subtlety to interact in an advantageous way.0 -
Howard Beale wrote: »Racist Irish this and that. It's incessant. No evidence of course is EVER forthcoming of course.
No evidence? Not so sure about that. I see approximately 1756 racist attacks on a daily basis.0 -
Shakey_jake wrote: »https://www.dfa.ie/news-and-media/press-releases/press-release-archive/2020/december/minister-brophy-announces-additional-27-million-in-irish-aid-funding-for-irish-ngos-in-2021.php
Absolutely astounding the money they receive yet we cant help our nurses haha
People don't like facts here just mindless echo chamber and labelling like being in school again. All this talk of "far right" despite no one bringing that up except hard far lefties!
Its true your point NGO's do nothing but undermine the Irish and take billions to do so. The money would be put to better use doing literally anything with it but try engaging in a logical debate here is like trying to put out a fire by dousing it in petrol.
If any conservative group said about African NGO groups what they say about us be war in the media. Like calling us racist/responsible for slavery/blm screaming white bastards at people etc etc. People know it but never admit it. Sad that grown asults can't face reality. That these NGO's cream it in whilst also often slandering the Irish. They rather go on about imaginary things from a non existent "far right" than discuss real things that actually happened in the very recent past. Reality will always be ignored in this post truth World.0 -
Follow the money, always follow the money. If widespread racism does not exist in Ireland, then it will be created, as this is the bread and butter for numerous NGOs and their well paid CEOs and staff, and for certain highly promoted "diversity consultants" and their companies.suicide_circus wrote: »More "Hate" and more "the rise of the far right" = more funding for the racism industry.
Speaking of which, I cannot forget an African delegate at a United Nations conference mocking the Irish delegates due to the amount of NGOs that we have in our tiny country. When she made her NGO comment, all of the other UN delegates laughed ............ except for the cold stone faces of the Irish delegation. I wonder if the EU could carry out a cartel investigation of all of these NGOs here. Not only is there multiples of duplication by these groups, but more than likely systemic corruption and fraud. After all, the only victim is the Irish tax payer.0 -
The far left are far more represented and have got into councils and government, but even there it's a minority. Though an active one and one more likely to get the ear and microphones of Montrose. And yes you have all sorts of "progressive" nonsense in Irish media, but most of that is confined to op eds in the "lifestyle" sections of magazines.
The far left make up less than 1% of the public vote, yet get about 30% of the airtime on RTE. This exposure alone is sufficient for it to exist in government.0 -
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Do we have a right and far right wing in Ireland? Yep, of course we do. However unlike a few places in Europe it has a zero mandate from the Irish electorate. The national party? Don't make me laugh. Barrett and his boyos struggled to fill a conference room at their Ard Pheis. How many was it, 50 people? Nobody wants to go back to the dancing at the crossroads kissing the bishop's ringpiece so they're done. The rest live on Twatter, BoobTube comments and Arsebook. If there's over a thousand active actual far right people in Ireland I'd be surprised.
The far left are far more represented and have got into councils and government, but even there it's a minority. Though an active one and one more likely to get the ear and microphones of Montrose. And yes you have all sorts of "progressive" nonsense in Irish media, but most of that is confined to op eds in the "lifestyle" sections of magazines.
Ireland is overwhelmingly a centrist and mostly left of centre culture. Is it racist? Oh it can be and is, no doubt about that and we can be more clannish and parochial than a few places, but then so is everywhere in the west(and everywhere else. Humans tend to be "tribal" in nature and a Them V Us is easy to foster). If it weren't then we wouldn't see the same demographics following the same trajectories over time. Though it's most certainly not just to do with racism.
Do we have too many NGO's sucking on the taxpayer's teat? Without a doubt. A holdover from the foundation of the state when we were broke and government farmed out various arms of government to the church and charities which transmogrified into NGO's.
Excellent post. One of the fairest and sensible I’ve seen on Boards about this subject.0 -
Shakey_jake wrote: »Cant wait till all these 20 something lefties have mortgages and bill to pay
Very very hard to imagine any of them leftie socialist 20 somethings actually work. All delighted to be under lockdown mooching the €350 a week assuming things "will go back to normal" soon. Fat chance of that.0 -
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Howard Beale wrote: »For someone who likes to use incidents to back up your points it's a shame all the facts of them are wrong.
When the transgenger lady got hit at the Dail had nothing to do with the National Party in fact was that simpleton Dolores Webster on the mike who has NOTHING to do with National party. Nothing. Ergo National Party didn't attack her in fact they weren't even there!
Nazi party links? Such as Justin attending a private speech in Germany some 20 something years ago? Well in that case do you say Roderic O Gorman has paedophile links considering he was photographed with Peter Tatchell and that was only 3 years ago so long as we are talking shelf life and consistency here. So do you go around speaking or Roderic's paedophile links?
Also the transgender activist her/his head injury was superficial. The one Peter O Loughlin got was not. Far more serious.
One one hand you want people to be attacked as you may disagree with them and on the other hand you condemn others for attacking others you do agree with.
Talk about being a double standard confused hypocrite!;)
Hilarious. Absolutely NONE of this post above is factual. ZERO. All of it is lies.
A Justin Barrett spoke at and attended Neo Nazi rallies. Your pretense about attending a "private meeting" is drivel.
B Izzy Kamikaze is a cisgender woman who had a serious head injury - your fake news that it was superficial is drivel. The NP were present when she was assaulted.
C The manufactured "links" between Roderic O'Gorman and paedophiles are complete and utter drivelIt was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
Terry Pratchet
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Joeytheparrot wrote: »Hilarious. Absolutely NONE of this post above is factual. ZERO. All of it is lies.
A Justin Barrett spoke at and attended Neo Nazi rallies. Your pretense about attending a "private meeting" is drivel.
B Izzy Kamikaze is a cisgender woman who had a serious head injury - your fake news that it was superficial is drivel. The NP were present when she was assaulted.
C The manufactured "links" between Roderic O'Gorman and paedophiles are complete and utter drivel
He knows all this but it doesn't suit his agenda.0 -
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Joeytheparrot wrote: »Hilarious. Absolutely NONE of this post above is factual. ZERO. All of it is lies.
A Justin Barrett spoke at and attended Neo Nazi rallies. Your pretense about attending a "private meeting" is drivel.
B Izzy Kamikaze is a cisgender woman who had a serious head injury - your fake news that it was superficial is drivel. The NP were present when she was assaulted.
C The manufactured "links" between Roderic O'Gorman and paedophiles are complete and utter drivel
Hilarious somehow I doubt you are laughing.
Prove A please. Videos photos anything???
Prove B. You cannot PROVE National Party did it as wasn't there rally as Dolores Webster was speaking and has NOTHING to do with NP. NOTHING. Never has never will. In fact the lad charged was NEVER even in the NP!
You are very clearly lying here.
C. I wasn't making a link between Roderic and paedophiles I was illustrating a point. If people want to drag up dubious connections from 20 something year ago with Justin surely you can do the same with Roderic? If anything its defending him as if one connection has no merit neither does the other.
You obviously can't get context ot illustration it wasn't literal it was illustrating a point! Sheesh! Come on like.0 -
irishgrover wrote: »However, what's your definition of acceptable racism in Ireland?
There never was or is "acceptable racism" in Ireland. We don't have any educational or official policies that encourage a 'us vs them' attitude, probably due to the desire to limit problems between Catholic and Protestant families throughout Ireland.
Racism exists in individuals. In Ireland. It's there and it's not going to go away completely.Is it fair to say Ireland has a racism problem if less than 20%, or 10% or 5% or 1% behave in a racist way?
Nope. How would you calculate actual racism? If I avoid Black people, am I being racist?
Here's the thing. I grew up in the midlands in the 70s/80s. We had one Chinese family, and one family from Zimbabwe. Nobody cared. Just as we had Black priests come in from the missions, to give sermons in all the churches, and nobody cared. Because race wasn't an issue.. until we were told it was.
Oh, I'm sure some people felt uncomfortable about the Black people... but racism should be about what is done and said, rather than the personal feelings of people who never express them, and never do anything negative about it.What is that acceptable threshold under which black people should have a right to be concerned or angry?
Outright discrimination (which is covered under our laws), hostile behavior (which is covered under our laws), abusive language (which is covered under our laws), etc. Notice a trend here? We already have a society that frowns upon negative behavior of all sorts, and it's applied regardless of race..If for example, that threshold is 5%, (1 in 20 people), or 1% (1 in 100 people), then how should black people react when they have to interact with racist people, be it in the street, or at school, or at work, or when trying to get work, or when dealing with the state etc?
They should react the same way they would anywhere else. Deal with it. Ignore it where possible (because asshats aren't going to disappear) or report such behavior to the law, or similar authorities where it crosses the acceptable thresholds.but if you complained about it, 19 in 20 people would tell you Ireland is not racist and to stop being such an angry attention seeker.
And they would be right to do so. 40 years ago Ireland was a predominately white nation. Within the last 40 years, society has been changing to accept foreign influences, and that includes other racial groups. Society requires time to adapt naturally, and it has...
Racism is not acceptable in Irish society... and I can't recall any time where it was.I'm white, Irish, male, in my 40s and relatively rich. I work hard, always have and deserve what I've got. I'm a fairly relaxed person.
If I was black I suspect I would not be.
Probably... because your wealth is based on what your parents managed to acquire, the education you received, and the support network of your family. Your success is unlikely to have happened solely due to what you have accomplished.
Most Black people in Ireland came as migrants, without a family network of supports, or the wealth to establish themselves the same way as a native. Also they probably didn't have the education you did, or had skills that weren't useful in a first world nation. However, their children will rise higher, due to what their parents have acquired, the state education they have received, etc.
And lets not forget there are Black people all around the world who have made very successful lives for themselves, in Ireland or other Western nations, because they had the skills/education required. There is this tendency on these threads to ignore the practicalities involved, and blame everything on racism.
I'm an expat living in Asia. I have no support network except for what I set up there. I'm at a decided disadvantage compared to most locals in that respect. My education is considered to be of a higher quality (which it is), which is an advantage. My skills/experience is difficult to come by in that region, which is why I get paid reasonably well... (being white helps somewhat too, but less so, since their society is also adapting to having foreigners around) Compared to a native with comparable education/skills to mine, they will likely be far more successful and make more money than me. It's not racism. It makes basic logical sense. That's not to say that there is some discrimination involved. There is.. as there is racism.. but... that's all part of living in a foreign country.. and Ireland is far more welcoming to foreigners than many other countries.
You should consider what a white person would experience in Harare, or any country where white people are a minority.. It's not all roses.0 -
Howard Beale wrote: »Hilarious somehow I doubt you are laughing.
Prove A please. Videos photos anything???
Prove B. You cannot PROVE National Party did it as wasn't there rally as Dolores Webster was speaking and has NOTHING to do with NP. NOTHING. Never has never will. In fact the lad charged was NEVER even in the NP!
You are very clearly lying here.
C. I wasn't making a link between Roderic and paedophiles I was illustrating a point. If people want to drag up dubious connections from 20 something year ago with Justin surely you can do the same with Roderic? If anything its defending him as if one connection has no merit neither does the other.
You obviously can't get context ot illustration it wasn't literal it was illustrating a point! Sheesh! Come on like.
You literally are lying about all these things.
We know that Justin attended and spoke at Neo Nazi rallies. Your black propaganda on this doesnt wash. Justin Barrett himself confirmed to RTE he attended and spoke at them.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/far-right-rally-had-welcome-for-irish-no-activist-1.1098691
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/neo-nazis-affirm-links-with-youth-defence-1.1098966
https://amp.rte.ie/amp/30826/
It has been widely reported by numerous journalists that Izzy Kamikaze had a serious head injury when she was hit with a plank. Again more black propaganda to claim it was superficial. I did not claim the National Party assaulted Izzy.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40149173.html
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/protester-beat-activist-with-tricolour-on-plank-39660339.html
You have been caught red handed with lies here.It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
Terry Pratchet
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Joeytheparrot wrote: »You literally are lying about all these things.
We know that Justin attended and spoke at Neo Nazi rallies. Your black propaganda on this doesnt wash. Justin Barrett himself confirmed to RTE he attended and spoke at them.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/far-right-rally-had-welcome-for-irish-no-activist-1.1098691
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/neo-nazis-affirm-links-with-youth-defence-1.1098966
https://amp.rte.ie/amp/30826/
It has been widely reported by numerous journalists that Izzy Kamikaze had a serious head injury when she was hit with a plank. Again more black propaganda to claim it was superficial. I did not claim the National Party assaulted Izzy.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40149173.html
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/protester-beat-activist-with-tricolour-on-plank-39660339.html
You have been caught red handed with lies here.
Again though lad you can't do simple context or comparison.
Justin attended a German National Democratic Party speech 20 years ago. Does attending a party rally 20 year ago that make him a "Neo Nazi"? To me and any rational person no.
Be same as those who link Roderic O Gorman to Peter Tatchell from photographs from only 3 year ago (not 20) does it make him a paedophile? Of course not.
Its the same thing. Try and think COMPARISON and contrast.
You did not claim National Party assuated Izzy Kamikaze (don't any of these professional agitators have any real names???) but you very strongly insinuated it and when you couldn't prove it thus changed your tune on saying it was them so yes you were lying.
Micheal Quinn is not nor has ever been in the National Party. This idea that someone from the party may have been in the vicinity is not relevant. So were the Gardai. Does that make them responsible too?
Also serious head injury I strongly dispute. Anyone with a "serious head injury" cannot stand there arguing and then explain and plead with Gardai to arrest the person responsible. Trust me lad I have seen a real serious injury in the past and they are grusome and brutal.
People drop and and arent even conscious
the Last thing you can do is stand there rationally explainging your point in a very lucid way. She wasn't even faint or dizzy on her feet for fecks sake! Someone who gets even punched are like bambi on ice on their feet nevermind a "serious head injury" she stood there clear and lucid as day. In fact was animated and energetic and exhuberent in her dispute with the gardai that day after the incident.Whilst not condoning it at all was wrong but you have lived a very very sheltered life if that is a "serious head injury" to you. I mean anyone on planet Earth with a "serious head injury" would seek medical assistance immediately not argue with Gardai. So your nonsense it was a "serious head injury" is another lie or at least grossly embellished.
Your lies?
Keep it up why break the habit of a lifetime!0 -
Howard Beale wrote: »Again though lad you can't do simple context or comparison.
Justin attended a German National Democratic Party speech 20 years ago. Does attending a party rally 20 year ago that make him a "Neo Nazi"? To me and any rational person no.
Be same as those who link Roderic O Gorman to Peter Tatchell from photographs from only 3 year ago (not 20) does it make him a paedophile? Of course not.
Its the same thing. Try and think COMPARISON and contrast.
You did not claim National Party assuated Izzy Kamikaze (don't any of these professional agitators have any real names???) but you very strongly insinuated it and when you couldn't prove it thus changed your tune on saying it was them so yes you were lying.
Micheal Quinn is not nor has ever been in the National Party. This idea that someone from the party may have been in the vicinity is not relevant. So were the Gardai. Does that make them responsible too?
Also serious head injury I strongly dispute. Anyone with a "serious head injury" cannot stand there arguing and then explain and plead with Gardai to arrest the person responsible. Trust me lad I have seen a real serious injury in the past and they are grusome and brutal.
People drop and and arent even conscious
the Last thing you can do is stand there rationally explainging your point in a very lucid way. She wasn't even faint or dizzy on her feet for fecks sake! Someone who gets punched hard are like bambi on ice on their feet she stood there clear and lucid as day.
Whilst not condoning it at all you have lived a very very sheltered life if that is a "serious head injury" to you. I mean anyone on planet Earth with a "serious head injury" would seek medical assistance immediately not argue with Gardai. So your nonsense it was a "serious head injury" is another lie or at least grossly embellished.
Your lies?
Keep it up why break the habit of a lifetime!
He SPOKE at a neo nazi rally. He admitted this. Again with lies and the attempts at propaganda. You even had to backtrack on this and change your tune from pretending it was a private meeting.
You can dispute it all you want. A whack with a plank does not cause a superficial injury.
Your posts here are littered with lies and attempted propaganda.It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
Terry Pratchet
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irishgrover wrote: »If it was a case that that < 5% of people are racist, how would that translate into that actual lives of black people in this country?
Only 1 in 20 people would- Physically or verbally assault you in public
- Provide you with reduced service in a restaurant
- Dismiss your requests when dealing with a government agency
- talk behind your back and tell everyone that your pram, car, house etc were all being paid for by the government
- Tell you that you should go back to your own country, even though you were born here
- Tell you that you can never be Irish, because you are black.
- Ensure security followed you around in shops
- Put your CV in the bin when you apply for a job
- Make up reasons to ensure you never get that promotion or pay rise.
but if you complained about it, 19 in 20 people would tell you Ireland is not racist and to stop being such an angry attention seeker.
Lets consider it from a different angle. Lets say you were an Irish person living in Japan and 20 out of 20 Japanese- corporations would send out incessant newsletters and hold regular workshops to inform your Japanese coworkers that they (the coworkers - never the corporation) were oppressing you
- corporations would be incentivised (formally and informally) to hire you over equally competent Japanese workers to meet diversity targets
- managers would have to consider how they must inevitably prove to HR they weren't bigots prior to disciplining you for poor performance
- stories would be rewritten to insert you as an Irish person in that Japanese story
- historians would pretend there was no such thing as a Japanese person, if there was they were mongrels, and in any case you as an Irish person were just as Japanese as a Japanese person
- historians would proclaim the Irish were a real ethnic group with a wonderful history and shared experience which must be celebrated and taught to all Japanese children
- police forces would release regular media announcements that it is evil and demonic to draw broad conclusions about Irish people from your crimes as an Irish individual, whereas all Japanese people are evil and demonic because 1 in 20 Japanese might be mean to you
- police forces would ignore you and your Irish friends grooming Japanese girls for 30 or more years, but should an outraged Japanese father attack you they will be quickly intervene to jail him
- muggers would have to prove they didn't attack you because they hate Irish people, whereas Japanese people you mug would have to prove you hated them which was impossible in the eyes of the court
- media institutions would diminish and dismiss crimes you carry out against Japanese people, while highlighting crimes Japanese people might carry out against you.
- sports teams would ritualistically prostrate themselves before you and your interests prior to every sporting event
- media would carry a message (subtle or otherwise) that the Irish are good, wise and virtuous whereas the Japanese are brutish, dumb or corrupt.
- persons who have a negative interaction with you will be socially ostracised and lose their livelihood because you filmed it and uploaded it to social media
- political parties would support legislation to imprison any Japanese person who says mean things about you, while ignoring all the mean things you say about Japanese people
- courts would jail a Japanese girl for quoting the lyrics to the Fields of Athenry as a hate crime, but you as an Irish person can hold an open air concert and sing it in front of tens of thousands.
but if a Japanese person complained about it, the other 19 in 20 Japanese people would tell them they are a nazi and try find out where they worked so they could get them sacked
Is it really that hard a life as an Irish person in Japan?0 -
Joeytheparrot wrote: »He SPOKE at a neo nazi rally. He admitted this. Again with lies and the attempts at propaganda. You even had to backtrack on this and change your tune from pretending it was a private meeting.
You can dispute it all you want. A whack with a plank does not cause a superficial injury.
Your posts here are littered with lies and attempted propaganda.
"Whack from a plank" but it didn't connect flush from the video was a glance of the side of her head thus causing the cut.
Your the one saying it was a "serious head injury" It wasn't and I explained why. Think nearly every medical doctor too wouldn't classify it as a "serious head injury" So serious you stand there arguing with Gardai after it and care not for the head injury? Come on.
You strongly insinuated it was The National Party responsible It wasn't. You yourself then admit this.
The one Peter O Loghlin got from anti Irish racists was far far worse. No concern for him no? Why not. Of yes its ok to attack people who may disagree with you.
Least not forget it was a members of a NGO who attacked him further illustrating the anti Irish sentiment and anti Irish racism from these NGO's.
Erm who's lying again? People can make up their own mind.0 -
Howard Beale wrote: »"Whack from a plank" but it didn't connect flush from the video was a glance of the side of her head thus causing the cut.
Your the one saying it was a "serious head injury" It wasn't and I explained why. Think nearly every medical doctor too wouldn't classify it as a "serious head injury" So serious you stand there arguing with Gardai after it and care not for the head injury? Come on.
You strongly insinuated it was The National Party responsible It wasn't. You yourself then admit this.
The one Peter O Loghlin got from anti Irish racists was far far worse. No concern for him no? Why not. Of yes its ok to attack people who may disagree with you.
Least not forget it was a members of a NGO who attacked him further illustrating the anti Irish sentiment and anti Irish racism from these NGO's.
Erm who's lying again? People can make up their own mind.
You were caught out with your lies and now you have even had to backtrack and drop your lies about Justin Barrett because you know you were wrong.It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
Terry Pratchet
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Joeytheparrot wrote: »You were caught out with your lies and now you have even had to backtrack and drop your lies about Justin Barrett because you know you were wrong.
I honestly cannot the believe the level of immaturity from you. It reminds me of that scene in Dumb and Dumber you know that your it scene.Your it. No your it and on and on goes.
As I said people can make up their own minds whos lying you can say Im lying or backtracking or fast forwarding or whatever grand. Fine. Good for you.
In the adult World people can and do disagree. Take a deep breathe! Thwy may even believe the other person is lying or too. Who cares? As said people make up their own minds and I couldn't care less about peoples personal opinions. None of my business anyway.0 -
Because they are racists.
But they are racist against white people, which is more socially acceptable here than being racist against other colours so they get away with it, for now.
They have been brainwashed by the divisive BLM movement that tells them all police and all white people are racist with it's ill-conceived policies such as 'defund the police'. But if you point out the obvious flaws in this, they will instantly start making false accusations of racism - which are very effective, especially with all the woke SJWs, speaking of which...
The woke SJW's let them away with their divisive racism because they would rather signal their 'virtues' about how non-racist they are against black people, 'cos it's trendy now (while condoning racism against others).
We have not firmly stood up to them yet. If they are inciting hatred, deport them asap before it gets as divided as the US. No good can come from their hatred. The hateful ones will not be missed here. Sadly, we have a spineless, weak government who can manage nothing but boost Sinn Fein's popularity, maybe they will stand up to them.0 -
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Because they are racists.
But they are racist against white people, which is more socially acceptable here than being racist against other colours so they get away with it, for now.
They have been brainwashed by the divisive BLM movement that tells them all police and all white people are racist with it's ill-conceived policies such as 'defund the police'. But if you point out the obvious flaws in this, they will instantly start making false accusations of racism - which are very effective, especially with all the woke SJWs, speaking of which...
The woke SJW's let them away with their divisive racism because they would rather signal their 'virtues' about how non-racist they are against black people, 'cos it's trendy now (while condoning racism against others).
We have not firmly stood up to them yet. If they are inciting hatred, deport them asap before it gets as divided as the US. No good can come from their hatred. The hateful ones will not be missed here. Sadly, we have a spineless, weak government who can manage nothing but boost Sinn Fein's popularity, maybe they will stand up to them.
Very good post.
Don't hold your breath on Sinn Fein though they are bed buddies with the Anti Irish NGO's. If they had a pair at all they would have condemned some of the speeches and rhetoric and bullshyte from these NGO's and groups. The madness in Blanchardstown should have been condemned by them.0 -
Howard Beale wrote: »Don't know where the full video is but at a rally for abortion few year ago this woman introduced as being from the 'Irish network against racism' spews nothing but bile and racism against the Irish. We are 'racist' we are a 'racist' country and if the pure hatred and racism against the Irish wasn't enough she throws in a good bit of misandry to boot hating on all men screaming at them to 'know their place' etc.
We must be the only country in the World to invite in the absolute racist dregs of the World only for them to come here and spew bile against us on the main street in our capital. What's worse is these racist cretins are part of ahem 'anti racist' organisations. Gas. Never let it be said these people don't have a sense of irony. :rolleyes:
Incredible.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/video-men-should-know-their-place-in-abortion-debate-rally-told-30526016.html
"Know your place!"
Holy F**k, I can't believe that backwards, barbaric nonsense is going on in Ireland in this day and age. Deport these hateful thugs before they ruin this country as their hatred has ruined others like the US.
Can we keep the good ones and deport the bad ones please? It's just common sense.0 -
Joeytheparrot wrote: »You were caught out with your lies and now you have even had to backtrack and drop your lies about Justin Barrett because q you know you were wrong.
Yep. His backtracking was cringe. Normally when someone gets caught lying red handed they would own up to it.0 -
What is it with progressive posters and a lack of impulse control? Quality of arguments is one thing, how you approach arguments in another. I'd say at least half of the posters who argue for progressive values are highly emotional in their approach. Written word is one of the easiest ways to not appear emotional, yet they can't manage it. When reading their words I can honestly visualize them behind a phone, a laptop, full of rage and anger. It seriously can't be good for their mental well being.
Aggressively persuing a radical left-wing ideology does not necessarily make one 'progressive'. Just because they call themselves 'progressive' does not make it so. For example, the way they tolerate and reward racism against Irish and white people is not progressive.0 -
Aggressively persuing a radical left-wing ideology does not necessarily make one 'progressive'. Just because they call themselves 'progressive' does not make it so. For example, the way they tolerate and reward racism against Irish and white people is not progressive.
Being conditioned to hate their own kind. Alot of Irish talk of "white priviledge" and such conditioned drivel and all this imported US shyte that allows anti Irish bigots to flourish.
Look at Ebun Joseph for gods sake. Makes a very good living despising the Irish. Humiliated and berated a young waitress in Galway once for serving her the wrong drink. Tried to get her sacked. Apparently this was "racist". Was even national news! Imagine.
Imagine being served a wrong drink in Nigeria and claiming its racism. Madness.
This level of entitlement knowing saying or doing anything to or about Irish people without ANY repercussions whatsoever allows them to treat Irish people with contempt.0 -
fantaiscool wrote: »Yep. His backtracking was cringe. Normally when someone gets caught lying red handed they would own up to it.
His backtrack was cringe. Jaysus.
This a US secondry school???
As said I've been linear throughout people can make up their own minds.
Interesting your friend doesn't want to debate the issues at all instead refusing to and then ad hominem crap about lying (projecting much?) The posts are there for people to see people can make up their own minds what they believe. As adults do.0 -
Follow the money, always follow the money. If widespread racism does not exist in Ireland, then it will be created, as this is the bread and butter for numerous NGOs and their well paid CEOs and staff, and for certain highly promoted "diversity consultants" and their companies.
Speaking of which, I cannot forget an African delegate at a United Nations conference mocking the Irish delegates due to the amount of NGOs that we have in our tiny country. When she made her NGO comment, all of the other UN delegates laughed ............ except for the cold stone faces of the Irish delegation. I wonder if the EU could carry out a cartel investigation of all of these NGOs here. Not only is there multiples of duplication by these groups, but more than likely systemic corruption and fraud. After all, the only victim is the Irish tax payer.
It's an industry now in Ireland, it gets as much free airtime as it requires on rte. Some presenters should just bite the bullet n do a 'racist Paddy' segment every week! The 8000 + direct provision residents require an amnesty n free gaff and family repatriation also - ta in advance.
More resources are always needed, if the government is to take it seriously! Cough up racist Paddy taxpayers!0 -
Howard Beale wrote: »What about this chap. Part of the BLM mob and united against Racism ie hate the Irish.
Here he is saying that African folk should have land, power, politicians basically everything and not one mention of actually working for it. Notice that. Not one utterance of actually WORKING for any of it!
Then he goes onto say Irish people (you and me) are 'very very complicit' in slavery. News to me and also racism as it's racist and slanderous to the Irish such lies and falsehoods.
His anti Irish bile as usual during a weekday (not working) and as usual cheered on. Disdain, hatred and racism against the Irish cheered on the streets of Ireland. Strange days.
He is right about one thing (and one thing only), 'Ireland is complicit'. By tolerating this hatred, we are allowing it to grow and fester here. This will certainly result in Irish children being attacked and murdered by these hate-filled ideologues. And after they have murdered your son they will shout hate in your face because they feel justified, because someone in Ireland hundreds of years ago had something to do with slavery, apparently. And you let it grow on your doorstep.
Would he do this in Russia? Or China? Not a chance. So we are complicit, because if you tolerate this, your children, literally, will be next. They could not do this in many other countries, they need us to just do nothing, like the good, little weak, virtue-signalling sheep that we have become. All it requires is for good people to do nothing.0 -
While I know plenty of nice Africans I genuinely feel that if the whole lot of them were put on a boat and sent home that the pros would outweigh the cons.
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It's an industry now in Ireland, it gets as much free airtime as it requires on rte. Some presenters should just bite the bullet n do a 'racist Paddy' segment every week! The 8000 + direct provision residents require an amnesty n free gaff and family repatriation also - ta in advance.
More resources are always needed, if the government is to take it seriously! Cough up racist Paddy taxpayers!
Is there a week goes by they don't have that scruffy degenerate Tommy Tiernan on interviewing some black person speaking of the racism they have experienced in Ireland despite them having a good job and live in a affluent part of Dublin? Seems like every second guest has to be pushing this old troupe.0
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