COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

Garlinge

Originally Posted by Leftwaffe View Post
Is the portal over for over 65s tomorrow? If so, where can we find this?

Is it for all over 65s? Thanks.

I heard the website for booking would be up on 19th

Marhay70

ek motor wrote: »

They dont like vaccinating on sundays or bank holiday mondays.

Not true, I know at least two people who were vaccinated last Monday and whose second dose is 3rd May, both Bank Holidays.

is_that_so

Corholio wrote: »

Has antigen testing improved any bit since it's first introduction? Seems to be more and more talk of it being part of short to medium term life in a few ways. I know it didn't seem to be overly reliable when first mentioned.

There is a team looking at them and how we can use them. A report is "imminent". There are now at least 1,000 of them ranging from the useless to the possibly usable.

marno21

4.6m doses given in the US yesterday.

At that rate, they are going to run into demand shortages in the next few weeks. Once they lift that export ban it’ll be good news for supply in Europe. All upwards from here.

Beasty

Threads merged

Martina1991

Corholio wrote: »

Has antigen testing improved any bit since it's first introduction? Seems to be more and more talk of it being part of short to medium term life in a few ways. I know it didn't seem to be overly reliable when first mentioned.

There was a body set up to evaluate various rapid methods which are currently being used in appropriate settings by trained personnel.
It is not being used for mass testing.

Tyrone212

France is getting deliveries of J&J vaccine tomorrow, a week earlier than was expected. Same for Ireland?

is_that_so

Tyrone212 wrote: »

France is getting deliveries of J&J vaccine tomorrow, a week earlier than was expected. Same for Ireland?

Sanofi, a French company, producing it is the most likely explanation.

1huge1

Marhay70 wrote: »

Not true, I know at least two people who were vaccinated last Monday and whose second dose is 3rd May, both Bank Holidays.

Its not to say no vaccinations happen at weekends/bank holidays, but a vastly reduced number. For example, 3-5th April (inc bank holiday Monday), a total of 17k doses were administered, whereas in one day, the next day (Tuesday the 6th), 21k doses were administered.

Initially, it was due to them having used all the supply during the week for the most part, I'm not sure that can be used as an excuse at this stage.

Water John

1huge1 wrote: »

Its not to say no vaccinations happen at weekends/bank holidays, but a vastly reduced number. For example, 3-5th April (inc bank holiday Monday), a total of 17k doses were administered, whereas in one day, the next day (Tuesday the 6th), 21k doses were administered.

Initially, it was due to them having used all the supply during the week for the most part, I'm not sure that can be used as an excuse at this stage.

There isn't a backlog of vaccines, so when they're used isn't an issue.

Bubbaclaus

marno21 wrote: »

4.6m doses given in the US yesterday.

At that rate, they are going to run into demand shortages in the next few weeks. Once they lift that export ban it’ll be good news for supply in Europe. All upwards from here.

I'd say they have a bit to go yet before they reach demand shortage. 183 million doses given out, will need at least 250 million more doses to get to a minimum of where they want to be.

1huge1

Water John wrote: »

There isn't a backlog of vaccines, so when they're used isn't an issue.

Ya thats fair enough, it really is down to supplies again.

trellheim

1. Does anyone have the actuals for 7th and 8th vaccinated ? Combining it into two is screwing my graph up and I don't want to average it


2. Some good news : todays 303 reported cases , the last time it was lower than this was on 12th December with 248 cases so we've had the hard road back but we are getting there

marno21

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

I'd say they have a bit to go yet before they reach demand shortage. 183 million doses given out, will need at least 250 million more doses to get to a minimum of where they want to be.

At 4.6m per day, that's only 55 or so days away. Israel ran into demand shortages when 55% or so were vaccinated, and the US are a manufacturer of vaccines with an export ban, and production is increasing.

In 5-6 weeks time the vaccine landscape will be very different, to our considerable benefit.

stephenjmcd

trellheim wrote: »

1. Does anyone have the actuals for 7th and 8th vaccinated ? Combining it into two is screwing my graph up and I don't want to average it


2. Some good news : todays 303 reported cases , the last time it was lower than this was on 12th December with 248 cases so we've had the hard road back but we are getting there

This should have what your looking for hopefully

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/vaccination-programme-dashboard-as-of-09-april-2021.pdf

vienne86

Garlinge wrote: »

Originally Posted by Leftwaffe View Post
Is the portal over for over 65s tomorrow? If so, where can we find this?

Is it for all over 65s? Thanks.

I heard the website for booking would be up on 19th

That was updated. Paul Reid said it was being brought forward to this week. I'd say they would love to start on this cohort as it would be a way of getting their numbers up fast......the Astra Zeneca doses are available and they'll all be done in MVCs.

Lucas Hood

trellheim wrote: »

1. Does anyone have the actuals for 7th and 8th vaccinated ? Combining it into two is screwing my graph up and I don't want to average it


2. Some good news : todays 303 reported cases , the last time it was lower than this was on 12th December with 248 cases so we've had the hard road back but we are getting there

One of the days 27360 the other 29017.

Which was which I'm not sure.

eoinbn

is_that_so wrote: »

Sanofi, a French company, producing it is the most likely explanation.

Sanofi won't deliver any vaccines until Q3. J&J seem to be delivering small quantities this week with another planned for the last week of April. Haven't seen any firm data for Ireland but a few countries have reported this.

ACitizenErased

Chinese vaccines in trouble
https://twitter.com/bensiegel/status/1381309648020643846?s=21

Turtwig

How many doses of them have been administered!?

Stheno

Turtwig wrote: »

How many doses of them have been administered!?

130 million plus

1huge1

marno21 wrote: »

At 4.6m per day, that's only 55 or so days away. Israel ran into demand shortages when 55% or so were vaccinated, and the US are a manufacturer of vaccines with an export ban, and production is increasing.

In 5-6 weeks time the vaccine landscape will be very different, to our considerable benefit.

I think another reason that Israel seems to have plateaued around 55% is because Pfizer have stopped delivered them vaccines due to Israel not paying for their most recent batch.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/pfizer-said-to-warn-israel-pay-up-or-go-to-back-of-vaccine-line/

Although. this does seem strange to me, I can't imagine Israel having any issues paying for these.

charlie14

marno21 wrote: »

4.6m doses given in the US yesterday.

At that rate, they are going to run into demand shortages in the next few weeks. Once they lift that export ban it’ll be good news for supply in Europe. All upwards from here.

Hopefully the Pfizer/Biontech report on 12-15 year olds do not impact that if the US decides to go ahead with vaccinating that cohort.
Not only are Pfizer/Biontech looking as the gold standard, on reliabilty of delivery they look to be our most reliable and fastest way out of this.

IRISHSPORTSGUY

is_that_so wrote: »

Sanofi, a French company, producing it is the most likely explanation.

Spain getting it Tuesday

https://www.majorcadailybulletin.com/news/international/2021/04/10/82293/first-johnson-johnson-vaccines-arrive-spain-tuesday.html

Corholio

Martina1991 wrote: »

There was a body set up to evaluate various rapid methods which are currently being used in appropriate settings by trained personnel.
It is not being used for mass testing.

I wasn't necessary meaning just in Ireland, the UK have been mentioning them a lot.

Bridge93

What’s the likelihood we get a weekend of proper vaccination numbers or will the trend continue with a significant drop off? If we’re to ever hit the targets set surely there has to be a substantial weekend ramp up?

Micky 32

https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/status/1381327340429524995?s=21


https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/status/1381327343994642433?s=21


https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/status/1381327347757031425?s=21

Away With The Fairies

Doctor in New York who was vaccinated, caught covid and passed it onto her kid
https://youtu.be/gqC8angshTs

Seriously, if vaccines don't work, how do we get out of this?

ACitizenErased

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Doctor in New York who was vaccinated, caught covid and passed it onto her kid
https://youtu.be/gqC8angshTs

Seriously, if vaccines don't work, how do we get out of this?

It's been well documented that vaccines are the way out of this.

Stark

Don't need them to work perfectly. Just need to reduce transmission enough that we can maintain an R rate of <1 with fully open society/economy.

Also haven't watched the video but does it specify how long after vaccination she contracted covid? Both doses received?

Dressoutlet

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Doctor in New York who was vaccinated, caught covid and passed it onto her kid
https://youtu.be/gqC8angshTs

Seriously, if vaccines don't work, how do we get out of this?

The vaccines do work. Did the Dr die? End up in ICU? No. This means the vaccine worked. The vaccines are to stop you getting seriously sick or dying. A side benefit is that in most cases it is not transmitted, however there will ALWAYS be cases where vaccines didn't work/ didn't stop spread.

Mmr didn't work on me, and none of the boosters did either. I still have no rubella immunity. Even natural infection of Rubella gave me no immunity to it. And I know of 3 other people who gained no rubella immunity from the MMR. So does this mean MMR vaccine dosnt work. Of course not. Herd immunity protects me and others like me. When herd immunity is reached then people like this Dr will be protected by Herd Immunity.

hmmm

Micky 32 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/status/1381327340429524995?s=21

Really useful set of tweets.

Will "breakthrough infections" be the new "variants" in the media?

This is the key tweet to me. Even if someone gets infected, if the illness is mild should we really care?

https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1381327343994642433

VonLuck

Can anyone post the population numbers in each age group? It was posted a few days ago but can't seem to find it. Would be good to extrapolate the daily vaccination numbers to know approximately when certain ages will start vaccinations.

Deeper Blue

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Doctor in New York who was vaccinated, caught covid and passed it onto her kid
https://youtu.be/gqC8angshTs

Seriously, if vaccines don't work, how do we get out of this?

So one doctor in New York getting it means the vaccines don't work and won't get us out of this?

FFS get up the yard

lbj666

Micky 32 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/status/1381327340429524995?s=21


https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/status/1381327343994642433?s=21


https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/status/1381327347757031425?s=21

It's depressing to think this isn't somewhat obvious to everyone. But seen already from a recent post its not.

humberklog

Is there any truth to the story of the Travellers moving en masse into Pfizer in Grange Castle demanding the vaccine?

lbj666

lbj666 wrote: »

It's depressing to think this isn't somewhat obvious to everyone. But seen already from a recent post its not.

It is. I often read Dr Monica Gandhi on Twitter. She says variants are nothing to worry about: https://twitter.com/MonicaGandhi9?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

She is always extremely positive and doesn't create panic.

The problem is the media. Bad news sells.

irishgeo

humberklog wrote: »

Is there any truth to the story of the Travellers moving en masse into Pfizer in Grange Castle demanding the vaccine?

I doubt it.

humberklog

humberklog wrote: »

Is there any truth to the story of the Travellers moving en masse into Pfizer in Grange Castle demanding the vaccine?

No

Away With The Fairies

Deeper Blue wrote: »

So one doctor in New York getting it means the vaccines don't work and won't get us out of this?

FFS get up the yard

Well if you searched online, you would find that alot more than one got infected after the vaccine.

ACitizenErased

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Well if you searched online, you would find that alot more than one got infected after the vaccine.

Vaccine isn't a preventative, it's to stop you getting sick.

Strazdas

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Well if you searched online, you would find that alot more than one got infected after the vaccine.

I've heard though that a lot of these only had very mild symptoms or were asymptomatic.

Deeper Blue

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Well if you searched online, you would find that alot more than one got infected after the vaccine.

I'm not the one that needs to educate myself here.

Ha Long Bay

humberklog wrote: »

That's a factory...or my eyes are worse than I think.

It's my eyes not yours. I'm completely wrong here its not water.

stephenjmcd

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Well if you searched online, you would find that alot more than one got infected after the vaccine.

For the love of god is this still a talking point ? Some common sense here.

1. Person can be infected before vaccine was given and be asymptomatic, vaccine won't do anything. But sure oh I had the vaccine and still got covid.

2. Person picks it up in the days after vaccination. Repeat of the above, "oh I had the vaccine and got covid". Vaccine hasn't had enough time to do anything.

3. Person gets covid after 2nd dose, gets a mild dose, the same as a head cold, "oh I had the vaccine and got covid" . Well in this case the vaccine has done its job.

None of this is new

Beasty

Hạ Long Bay wrote: »

It's my eyes not yours. I'm completely wrong here its not water.

And with that a load of confusing posts deleted

SJFly

I don't understand the obsession with weekend vaccination numbers. If we had a bottleneck caused by vaccine centres/cubicles you would expect them all to be staffed at capacity 7 days a week. We don't - we are still limited by supply. All we need right now is enough vaccinators working to administer the supplies we receive each week, without stock building up.
Perhaps when supplies pick up we will need all centres to be operating at full capacity, and I would expect a more even distribution throughout the week. Until then, dips at the weekend are expected and not particularly problematic.

deisedevil

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No

The videos is fake then is it?

rameire

humberklog wrote: »

Is there any truth to the story of the Travellers moving en masse into Pfizer in Grange Castle demanding the vaccine?

There is a video in the last few hours of about 20 vans pulling caravans pulling up onto empty space.
Its claiming its Grange Castle.

https://twitter.com/BluntMan____/status/1381341531366424581?s=19

humberklog

Yeah I saw the vid rameire so asked in here if it was Pfiser as I don't know the area and whether it was recent.