COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

gctest50

Water John wrote: »

Right wing politicians in the UK are no different now than they were in 1846.
Good they have made such headway in first dose vaccination but I'm generally glad I live in Ireland. This DNR policy for people with mental learning difficulties if they caught Covid is horrible:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/13/new-do-not-resuscitate-orders-imposed-on-covid-19-patients-with-learning-difficulties

Doesn't work like on TV anyway


"Survival to hospital discharge differed by age, with 21.2% (11/52) of patients younger than 45 years surviving compared with 2.9% (1/34) of those aged 80 or older."

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m3513

RugbyLad11

XsApollo wrote: »

So no vaccine passports until everybody can get one.
So let’s keep everybody locked up because it’s unfair on people that don’t have one.
If I can’t have one nobody else can have one.
No thanks , get everything moving as fast a possible thanks. I am way down the list and I won’t want anybody stuck because I can’t have my vaccine passport.

Are you joking with me? We have been locked to protect the elderly.

The virus is pretty much harmless to young people, hence why they are at the bottom of the vaccine list.

It's hardly fair for the elderly to run off on holiday, while young people will be stuck.at home.

Gael23

I believe Virgin Atlantic are flying in a consignment of vaccines from the U.K. today.

Does anyone know more on this?

smurfjed

is_that_so wrote: »

I don't see passports happening in the long term. They are a disproportionate response to a disease that will probably end up like a cold.

I already have an electronic one, just waiting for the vaccinations to be entered into it. (not in Ireland)

XsApollo

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

Are you joking with me? We have been locked to protect the elderly.

The virus is pretty much harmless to young people, hence why they are at the bottom of the vaccine list.

It's hardly fair for the elderly to run off on holiday, while young people will be stuck.at home.

Is it fair that we are all locked up to protect the elderly? Nope

But you want to pay them back or what ?
Why do you want to stop them? The quicker everything gets back to normal the better

brickster69

Some good news. The UK head of Pfizer Ben Osborn tells Times Radio that they don't expect to have to change their vaccine to deal with any new variants

snotboogie

AdamD wrote: »

We'd need significantly more than 250k per week really. It would take 10 months to give everyone 2 doses at 250k per week

The UAE and Israel are jabbing 1% of their population per day. That should be our goal. Taking 160 doses for every hundred people as the target for herd immunity, vaccinating 1% per day would take us just under 6 months to reach our goal. J&J could get our goal down to 130 or so, which would shave off a month.

To hit 1% per day we need to be vaccinating 50k per day or 350k per week.

dominatinMC

brickster69 wrote: »

Some good news. The UK head of Pfizer Ben Osborn tells Times Radio that they don't expect to have to change their vaccine to deal with any new variants

Brilliant news, have you a link by any chance?

dominatinMC

dominatinMC wrote: »

Brilliant news, have you a link by any chance?

https://youtu.be/zP2sn0vuLEc

Some other interesting tidbits. The expect results of their trials in the 12-15 age group by the first half of this year before then moving on to children as young as 5. They're also working on new ways to freeze the vaccine that would make it easier to store.

JP Liz V1

Are you allowed pick your vaccine?

ACitizenErased

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Are you allowed pick your vaccine?

no you are not

gally74

brickster69 wrote: »

Uk hits it's target with a day to spare

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56062976

watch our country get very messy when the UK opens up, their in a good place with vaccines, but as they open up it will affect the mood here big time.

Morries Wigs

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Are you allowed pick your vaccine?

Nah you be lucky to get any vaccine especially here take what you can get

Morries Wigs

Fair play to the uk an excellent job done on the vaccine compared to the woeful show in the eu

stefanovich

Morries Wigs wrote: »

Fair play to the uk an excellent job done on the vaccine compared to the woeful show in the eu

Will this result in other European countries reconsidering their relationship with the EU?

Morries Wigs

stefanovich wrote: »

Will this result in other European countries reconsidering their relationship with the EU?

Small players like us no we in to much debt for years now ,big players like france germany ya id say so

brickster69

gally74 wrote: »

watch our country get very messy when the UK opens up, their in a good place with vaccines, but as they open up it will affect the mood here big time.

I think Ireland will be in a lot better place in 6 weeks time. A lot better than many others in Europe.

PCeeeee

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Uk will be fully open by June

Can you substantiate this? I watched ITV news tonight and that certainly wasn't the message.

Cork2021

brickster69 wrote: »

I think Ireland will be in a lot better place in 6 weeks time. A lot better than many others in Europe.

The fact we’ll hopefully have 500,000 people fully vaccinated in that period will be huge

Micky 32

I see that Reid promising 80k doses will be given between tomorrow and next Sunday. 13500 will be for the over 85’s.

Morries Wigs

Micky 32 wrote: »

I see that Reid promising 80k doses will be given between tomorrow and next Sunday. 13500 will be for the over 85’s.

peter reid is it

astrofool

stefanovich wrote: »

Will this result in other European countries reconsidering their relationship with the EU?

No it won't, if anything, the recovery process will focus minds and bring the countries closer together, especially if we go after COVID-free travel.

What do you think?

Cork2021

Excellent news!!

https://twitter.com/coronavirusgoo1/status/1361049451415101440?s=21

Galwayguy35

Water John wrote: »

Right wing politicians in the UK are no different now than they were in 1846.
Good they have made such headway in first dose vaccination but I'm generally glad I live in Ireland. This DNR policy for people with mental learning difficulties if they caught Covid is horrible:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/13/new-do-not-resuscitate-orders-imposed-on-covid-19-patients-with-learning-difficulties

You might be whistling a different tune by the time you get the vaccine at the rate its being organised here.

The Brits are putting everyone to shame by the speed they are getting their citizens jabbed.

All we have is Martin stuttering his way through interviews and having no idea what he is trying to say.

Marhay70

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

You might be whistling a different tune by the time you get the vaccine at the rate its being organised here.

The Brits are putting everyone to shame by the speed they are getting their citizens jabbed.

All we have is Martin stuttering his way through interviews and having no idea what he is trying to say.

It's not Martin that's organising the roll out though it's the HSE. and after a shaky start, I think they've coped quite well.
The UK had a head start on everybody else because they went headlong into unknown territory, this was a calculated risk which has paid off so far but could just as easily have been a disaster.

Manach

Micky 32 wrote: »

I see that Reid promising 80k doses will be given between tomorrow and next Sunday. 13500 will be for the over 85’s.

On the former point, over 85s, I hope this can be achieved. However I'm aware the some of that population demographic and their carers have not been contacted, which is worrying given the lack of mobility/coccooed nature that some over 85s are subject to. Hence Mr. Reid's logistic operations might be entangled by these factors, unless these have been well planed for.

astrofool

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

You might be whistling a different tune by the time you get the vaccine at the rate its being organised here.

The Brits are putting everyone to shame by the speed they are getting their citizens jabbed.

All we have is Martin stuttering his way through interviews and having no idea what he is trying to say.

We've used up all our supply with lots more supply coming online over the next few weeks and months, all countries are equally locked down at the moment.

What would your solution be?

BrianD3

Marhay70 wrote: »

It's not Martin that's organising the roll out though it's the HSE. and after a shaky start, I think they've coped quite well.
The UK had a head start on everybody else because they went headlong into unknown territory, this was a calculated risk which has paid off so far but could just as easily have been a disaster.

Unless you assume that the likes of Pfizer is an incompetent and corrupt organisation, it's highly unlikely that the early UK approval and rollout would have been a disaster. There was a small increased risk from the early approval. IIRC representatives from the EU and EMA said this at the time.

Small increased risk, not "just as easily a disaster". We'll be able to estimate at some stage how many lives were saved by this.

Galwayguy35

Yevon wrote: »

How do you propose speeding up the vaccination program?

astrofool wrote: »

We've used up all our supply with lots more supply coming online over the next few weeks and months, all countries are equally locked down at the moment.

What would your solution be?

It's not up to me to solve it, that why we vote in those overpaid fools we have in Government to work out what to do.

However if the Brits offer to sell us some of their vaccines we should buy them, Martin was asked would he do this and he wouldn't answer.

Its a no brainer of course we should bloody buy them.

Elessar

Does anyone know when the AZ vaccine will start being given to the 65-70 age group?