Would you prefer to live on Sheriff Street or in Dolphins barn?

TonyTheShifter

Which would you prefer? Dolphins barn, or Sheriff Street?

EmmetSpiceland

Dolphin’s Barn, for me. Wouldn’t want to run the risk of having a green light put on me in the other place.

Kermit.de.frog

Neither?

Omackeral

Sherriff Street 1991 looked gorgeous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0p8e1MUC0E

TonyTheShifter

Omackeral wrote: »

Sherriff Street 1991 looked gorgeous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0p8e1MUC0E

Pretty sure those flats are long gone though.

Samsonsmasher

Did Fungi stop there for hay?

Kermit.de.frog

Find Fungi

thenightman

Dolphins Barn isn't bad these days, certainly not like the 90s anyway when my nanny would lock herself into her house once it started getting dark cos of the addicts, her door bell was stolen at one stage even by the feckers. Rialto is a lovely area beside the barn that (had) a few nice pubs and shops in it & area in general is handy as feck for town/luas.

omeara1113

Neither

Richard Hillman

Omackeral wrote: »

Sherriff Street 1991 looked gorgeous

Jesus and there was me thinking Sarajevo was the most run down place of the early 90s.

DellyBelly

Christ what a terrible choice... Not sure what I'd choose.. Maybe dolphins barn as its being redeveloped but christ I'd really have to question what happened my life if I lived in either place..

No doubt we will here but the people who live there are the salt of the earth type..

suicide_circus

Dolphins Barn is absolutely grand

thenightman

thenightman wrote: »

Dolphins Barn isn't bad these days, certainly not like the 90s anyway when my nanny would lock herself into her house once it started getting dark cos of the addicts, her door bell was stolen at one stage even by the feckers. Rialto is a lovely area beside the barn that (had) a few nice pubs and shops in it & area in general is handy as feck for town/luas.

That reuben st run is a pit with the local kids and a few families

Pity because lots of decent families on the st but no way id recommend anyone go near the place without their eyes wide open

TonyTheShifter

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That reuben st run is a pit with the local kids and a few families

Pity because lots of decent families on the st but no way id recommend anyone go near the place without their eyes wide open

Used to walk down there heading for the Fatima Luas stop. Never had any trouble, though it was certainly felt like an “eyes in the back of your head” type of place.

Doctor Roast

Dolphins Barn, I did delivery work around the city for a number of years and I've seen a fair few incidents around the Sheriff street area compared to Dolphins barn.

artanevilla

Sheriffer, Northsider for life.

RobbingBandit

The morgue

Fighting Tao

There are two Sheriff Streets. Upper and lower, and they are on opposite ends of the spectrum.

Hangdogroad

In which town are these two areas located?

John_Rambo

Omackeral wrote: »

Sherriff Street 1991 looked gorgeous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0p8e1MUC0E

That video is always trotted out when Sherriff St. is mentioned on Boards.ie. It was shot was when they used the flats for the movie "The Boxer" with Daniel Day Lewis before they were demolished. Everything from the set was stored there too, from burned out cars to fake life size bomb victim corpses. I lived there then and it wasn't that bad.

Omackeral

John_Rambo wrote: »

That video is always trotted out when Sherriff St. is mentioned on Boards.ie. It was shot was when they used the flats for the movie "The Boxer" with Daniel Day Lewis before they were demolished. Everything from the set was stored there too, from burned out cars to fake life size bomb victim corpses. I lived there then and it wasn't that bad.

Literally in the title of the video that it's for a film but it claims its for In The Name of the Father. Would make sense with all the IRA graffiti in it.

John_Rambo

Omackeral wrote: »

Literally in the title of the video that it's for a film but it claims its for In The Name of the Father. Would make sense with all the IRA graffiti in it.

The flats were destroyed in the late 90's, In The Name Of the Father was filmed in 91, The Boxer was filmed in 97, just before the flats were destroyed. The Boxer film centers on the life of a boxer and former Provisional IRA volunteer Danny Flynn and the Sherriff st. flats and the surrounding area were used as a set for the movie with a lot of IRA graffiti and murals.

Hangdogroad

Hangdogroad wrote: »

In which town are these two areas located?

There’s always one.

Richard Hillman

John_Rambo wrote: »

That video is always trotted out when Sherriff St. is mentioned on Boards.ie. It was shot was when they used the flats for the movie "The Boxer" with Daniel Day Lewis before they were demolished. Everything from the set was stored there too, from burned out cars to fake life size bomb victim corpses. I lived there then and it wasn't that bad.

Ah right. That makes a lot of sense. And Jim Sheridan is from that neck of the woods.

John_Rambo

Batrachotox wrote: »

There’s always one.

There's lots of people that don't know what exists outside their hometown. For Hangdogroad, both areas are in the Capital of Ireland, Dublin city. They'd be considered "rough" areas with social problems.

dd973

These areas shouldn't be lionised as 'tough', 'hard' or 'rough'.

They're just s**t and full of a***holes apart from the poor people stuck in them who deserve better in terms of environment and life chances.

I never know why Ireland is always so high up on the HDI index, you don't see these sort of dives in Norway or Switzerland or the underclass we have here.

MrMusician18

Omackeral wrote: »

Sherriff Street 1991 looked gorgeous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0p8e1MUC0E

It's hard to believe it used to be a bigger ****in kip than it is now.

John_Rambo

MrMusician18 wrote: »

It's hard to believe it used to be a bigger ****in kip than it is now.

That's a movie set. Try not just concentrate on the pictures and videos, read the words and sentences on the thread before commenting.

Guy:Incognito

Hangdogroad wrote: »

In which town are these two areas located?

Clonmel

SouthWesterly

Sheriff st. The name makes me feel like there's law and order there.

John_Rambo

SouthWesterly wrote: »

Sheriff st. The name makes me feel like there's law and order there.

I know, there's a certain western feel to the name that evokes law or lawlessness to it. They were all name after civic offices and concepts. Mayor Street, Guild Street, Harbourmaster Place, Commons Street and Sheriff street.

HBC08

John_Rambo wrote: »

That video is always trotted out when Sherriff St. is mentioned on Boards.ie. It was shot was when they used the flats for the movie "The Boxer" with Daniel Day Lewis before they were demolished. Everything from the set was stored there too, from burned out cars to fake life size bomb victim corpses. I lived there then and it wasn't that bad.

What's the deal with all the Provo graffiti?
Seems bizarre enough stuff.

listermint

dd973 wrote: »

These areas shouldn't be lionised as 'tough', 'hard' or 'rough'.

They're just s**t and full of a***holes apart from the poor people stuck in them who deserve better in terms of environment and life chances.

I never know why Ireland is always so high up on the HDI index, you don't see these sort of dives in Norway or Switzerland or the underclass we have here.

You do though.

Evidently you haven't been to either. But sure lookeh

John_Rambo

HBC08 wrote: »

What's the deal with all the Provo graffiti?
Seems bizarre enough stuff.

I've explained this already. It was for a movie. A film. It's a set, they used the area when the flats were depopulated as a front for the 1997 movie "The Boxer". It's fake graffiti, fake murals to depict Belfast at the height of the troubles.

Omackeral

BlowHard wrote: »

It's a movie set. Like be saying oh look what a ****hole NY is after the destruction scene from a film like day after tomorrow. It's actually in the video title if you look.

Jesus Christ I know. I posted it!

Capt'n Midnight

SouthWesterly wrote: »

Sheriff st. The name makes me feel like there's law and order there.

It's Apache country.

wakka12

I'm sorry if that's your only two options But I'd say Dolphins barn..I think the population has aged considerably in that area so there's a bit less trouble, although obviously anti social problems are still prevalent. There's some good rejuvenation projects underway, obviously the flats are in the process of being demolished and retrofitted, a nursing home was just built by the SC Road, the old cinema is being turned into student flats etc.. So it's on the up for sure. It's because it's a pretty major artery into the city centre - Liberties- which itself is becoming gentrified quite rapidly so it's spilling over into Dolphin's barn.

You'd think the same about Sheriff St. given the proximity to the North Docks, but to me it still feels very rough. It has improved a lot as a place to live compared to 20 years ago but yeh, doesn't seem to have the same trajectory as Dolphin's barn is on for some reason, I thin it's the fact it's a bit isolated and not within a major travel corridor into the city centre like DB.

Rodney Bathgate

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

It's Apache country.

Bandit

RobbingBandit

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Bandit

Yo what up

Omackeral

Omackeral wrote: »

Sherriff Street 1991 looked gorgeous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0p8e1MUC0E

Those were a lot of props and such, put in place for a film.

BlowHard

BlowHard wrote: »

Oh look more looking down your noses at people less fortunate than ones self.

less fortunate? Stones throw to CBD & the same access to education the rest if us have. Less fortunate me hole.

B.A._Baracus

Would rather neither if I had a choice to be honest.

Rodney Bathgate

Augeo wrote: »

less fortunate? Stones throw to CBD & the same access to education the rest if us have. Less fortunate me hole.

Personal responsibility has gone out of fashion.

Gregor Samsa

SouthWesterly wrote: »

Sheriff st. The name makes me feel like there's law and order there.

Dolphin's Barn makes me feel like Fungi has an agricultural storage building there.

EmmetSpiceland

Omackeral wrote: »

Sherriff Street 1991 looked gorgeous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0p8e1MUC0E

That’s from a movie, I believe. Daniel Day-Lewis was in it. A lot of those cars are “props” and the graffiti was added by the crew, I would imagine.

JasonStatham

TonyTheShifter wrote: »

Which would you prefer? Dolphins barn, or Sheriff Street?

Probably Dublin 4.

hatrickpatrick

Dolphin's Barn is literally no comparison with Sheriff Street. When I was in college a lot of my friends lived directly on the doorsteps of Teresa's Gardens and Dolphin House respectively because rent was actually reasonable, and apart from a consistent theme of local burglaries, they aren't as dangerous as their reputations suggest. Yes, there was a lot of inter-gang violence particularly in Teresa's Gardens but the people involved generally tended to ignore outsiders for the most part. You'd be kept awake at night by scraps and so on occasionally but it was nothing like the kind of violent scenes we've been seeing regular videos of from East Wall or the Sheriff St / Seville Place vicinities since last Summer. Literally no comparison.

Now having said all that, Dublin 8 does have an extremely dangerous patch, it's just not where most folks think it is. The Barn is relatively quiet. St Anthony's Road in neighbouring Rialto and Basin Street which runs alongside the LUAS line, however, which between them form a pair of streets linked by a short stretch of James' Walk, may be honestly the scariest stretch of city I've ever stepped foot in. The Basin St flats around the time I was in college seemed to entertain daily violence and I'm not talking about just gang heads attacking eachother, I'm talking about wanton harassment of random passers by, muggings, verbal abuse, assaults, etc. Serious vandalism, firebombing of cars for sh!ts and giggles (not for any personal reason, just because these c*nts thought it was funny) etc. Basin St is probably the only place I've ever been in Dublin which genuinely resembles the anarchic and chaotically violent stories you hear about what the likes of Fatima Mansions or Summerhill / Gloucester Place were like before they were demolished and rebuilt in the late 2000s.

Anthony's Road, on the other hand, was at that time literally a street comprised almost entirely of boarded up, burnt out houses with threatening graffiti spray painted and the same kind of daily random street violence. IIRC it wasn't on the same scale as Basin Street which seemed a truly lawless place akin to the current situation in East Wall but it was still very frightening for students who had moved to Dublin from other parts of the country and weren't aware of the locally notorious rough streets.

What really blows my mind about Rialto is the fact that Anthony's Road is literally directly beside Church Ave and Rialto St, and these are incredibly quiet and even well-to-do streets. It's a very bizarre place in that it seems to showcase the most and least dangerous type of Dublin community separated literally by one row of houses, which is something fairly unique that I haven't encountered anywhere else - Dublin has always had a localised thing where safe and dodgy areas can be separated by just a street or two, but the transition from utterly lawless to jarringly settled is about ten footsteps when you walk along the South Circular towards Rialto village. Very very strange feeling.

Unregistered39

BlowHard wrote: »

Oh look more looking down your noses at people less fortunate than ones self.

Couldn't agree more. OP, what's the motivation behind your original question? Because for the life of me I can't think of how it could be anything remotely generous or positive.

TonyTheShifter

Unregistered39 wrote: »

Couldn't agree more. OP, what's the motivation behind your original question? Because for the life of me I can't think of how it could be anything remotely generous or positive.

To discern which neighbourhood has the worst reputation. Nothing snobby about it.

Unregistered39

TonyTheShifter wrote: »

To discern which neighbourhood has the worst reputation. Nothing snobby about it.

Why though?

Thinkingaboutit

Dolphin's Barn. Sheriff St is still a dive.