Ireland v France 2021 6n

StevenToast

StevenToast wrote: »

Catt and easterby are not having any positive influence....farrell is on his last legs...

France were their own worst enemies today...dont let the scoreline fool you...

That kelleher try was the luckiest you will get at test level

I still think the penalty for the contest in the air which led to that try was dubious. Both players going for the ball, both in a position to catch it. Not sure why that was a penalty.

walshb

So many here love to stick the knife in to the lads, team and country when we lose a rugby match...

A single score was all. Against France...60 million people. Far more into their rugby than we ever were..

doughef

*** not trolling ***

But as an Irishman I’m delighted they lost.
The team is as Irish as an ‘Irish bar’ in Bangkok.

Rugby is and always has been an elitist sport.
.. and don’t start me on the national anthem mega mix !!

mod -banned.

FixdePitchmark

Henderson didn't sound right there ?

Annabella1

Not negative after that all
Brave gutsy performance esp with injuries

irishfeen

Ireland are so one dimensional it’s absolutely frightening.

Teferi

doughef wrote: »

*** not trolling ***

But as an Irishman I’m delighted they lost.
The team is as Irish as an ‘Irish bar’ in Bangkok.

Rugby is and always has been an elitist sport.
.. and don’t start me on the national anthem mega mix !!

Okay, but has Ja Rule released a statement about the game yet?

UAEguy2020

walshb wrote: »

So many here love to stick the knife in to the lads, team and country when we lose a rugby match...

A single score was all. Against France...60 million people. Far more into their rugby than we ever were..

Ahhh so now we are going to use population as an excuse to accept mediocrity...

It’s not 60 million v 7 Million

It’s 23 v 23.

Hurrache

walshb wrote: »

A single score was all. Against France...60 million people. Far more into their rugby than we ever were..

I didn't think they had that many on?

mun1

French were very poor today, we could have sneaked it in the end . A bit more composure and it could have worked out for us .
I’d pick the following team for Italy match , who will be a lot better than France were today

1. Healy/kilcoyne
2. Kelleher
3. Porter/furlong.
4. Henderson
5. Ryan
6. Beirne
7. VDF
8. Stander
9. Murray
10. Sexton
11. Earls
12. Henshaw
13. Ringrose
14. Larmour/Conway
15. Keenan.

thomas 123

walshb wrote: »

So many here love to stick the knife in to the lads, team and country when we lose a rugby match...

A single score was all. Against France...60 million people. Far more into their rugby than we ever were..

You can’t hide the fact this game might have been won had different decisions been made behind lads sticking the knife in.

Pudsy33

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Henderson didn't sound right there ?

Hes just Northern :pac:

clsmooth

We would have been pinned in our own 22 for the whole of the second half if it wasn’t for the boot of Lowe. Has a cannon on him.

FixdePitchmark

walshb wrote: »

So many here love to stick the knife in to the lads, team and country when we lose a rugby match...

A single score was all. Against France...60 million people. Far more into their rugby than we ever were..

Have to agree with above. Poor performance from "fans"

As for stadium sound. Jaysus sounded like playing away in Turkey. He should be sacked.

kingtiger

clsmooth wrote: »

We would have been pinned in our own 22 for the whole of the second half if it wasn’t for the boot of Lowe. Has a cannon on him.

pity about his tackling skills

kilns

doughef wrote: »

*** not trolling ***

But as an Irishman I’m delighted they lost.
The team is as Irish as an ‘Irish bar’ in Bangkok.

Rugby is and always has been an elitist sport.
.. and don’t start me on the national anthem mega mix !!

Hi Ewan stop trolling

Pudsy33

Happy to be wrong about Byrne, both him and Burns were fine. I don't think either will reach the requisite standard though so.

Thrashssacre

Man of the match for Ireland is Paul o connell the line-out is a few leagues above where it's Been for years, as for the game it shows where we are comfortably 3rd in the northern hemisphere. There's room to improve but solid in contact need to find a way to drag our marquee player's into games more.

bennyl10

clsmooth wrote: »

We would have been pinned in our own 22 for the whole of the second half if it wasn’t for the boot of Lowe. Has a cannon on him.

Well at least he can kick

Pity his tacking and defensive reads aren’t functioning

walshb

thomas 123 wrote: »

You can’t hide the fact this game might have been won had different decisions been made behind lads sticking the knife in.

Yes. That’s sport. That’s life

It’s the almost glee like comments and criticisms that are so prevalent against our rugby team...

doughef

Teferi wrote: »

Okay, but has Ja Rule released a statement about the game yet?

I’m not mad into rap either ..

StevenToast

walshb wrote: »

So many here love to stick the knife in to the lads, team and country when we lose a rugby match...

A single score was all. Against France...60 million people. Far more into their rugby than we ever were..

Head in the sand...Ireland are going nowhere under Farrell and Catt....

breezy1985

mun1 wrote: »

French were very poor today, we could have sneaked it in the end . A bit more composure and it could have worked out for us .
I’d pick the following team for Italy match , who will be a lot better than France were today

1. Healy/kilcoyne
2. Kelleher
3. Porter/furlong.
4. Henderson
5. Ryan
6. Beirne
7. VDF
8. Stander
9. Murray
10. Sexton
11. Earls
12. Henshaw
13. Ringrose
14. Larmour/Conway
15. Keenan.

Why go with guys like Sexton and Murray against Italy in a tournament we are out of. Ide be throwing out some new caps

walshb

StevenToast wrote: »

Head in the sand...Ireland are going nowhere under Farrell and Catt....

Head is not in the sand

We lost a match....

Some of the slagging and criticisms are way OTT, but not surprising..

Larbre34

I'm going to say we did better than I expected before the game.

I'm also going to say I'm frustrated at the apparent the lack of ideas in locker to bring our best players onto the ball and advance up the pitch.

I would also congratulate France for their ability to change up and down the gears at will and also for putting Robbie Henshaw in their pocket all day.

Beechwoodspark

Williams more or less saying Farrell has not brought ireland forward

lawrencesummers

Lowe had as many bad kicks as good kicks.
His almost try was only an almost try.
His missed tackles were criminal.


The only reason we lost by two wasn’t down to our ability, it was French mistakes that stopped them scoring more and allowed us a soft try.

The French mistakes flattered the score line but the were never in trouble.

Thrashssacre

I think a leading voice is something were missing too in the times where we were really under pressure, during the 3rd quarter of the game there were no Irish voices to be heard in an empty stadiums. Very telling nobody driving performances, nobody overly confident. But a team of world class players who can very much put it up too anyone.

almostover

We replaced Ryan and POM with Henderson and Ruddock. Little to no drop off in quality. Replaced Murray and Sexton with JGP and BB. Huge drop off in quality. Therein lies the issue.

KaneToad

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Williams more or less saying Farrell has not brought ireland forward

Reddan disagrees

VANG1

We were beaten by a better team, well done France. We need more quality players to match the large playing population countries. More investment in youth, get all the academies to Leinster standard and have more a level matches.

WoollyRedHat

AF going to need to dip into the transfer market I reckon.

thomas 123

walshb wrote: »

Yes. That’s sport. That’s life

It’s the almost glee like comments and criticisms that are so prevalent against our rugby team...

Supporters are allowed critique their team.

This is a discussion forum, nobody would be here if everyone blindly said whopee, well done, better luck next time.

Sure it matters not what we say here but we have been getting progressively worse since the New Zealand win.

TheCitizen

"The helicopter view" is that the buzzword now? Ireland lost two games against two teams that didn't turn up.

Blanco100

How is Jack Carry not considered for this panel, he surely adds something different at 10.

walshb

thomas 123 wrote: »

Supporters are allowed critique their team.

This is a discussion forum, nobody would be here if everyone blindly said whopee, well done, better luck next time.

Sure it matters not what we say here but we have been getting progressively worse since the New Zealand win.

I am not talking about constructive debate and criticisms..

awec

almostover wrote: »

We replaced Ryan and POM with Henderson and Ruddock. Little to no drop off in quality. Replaced Murray and Sexton with JGP and BB. Huge drop off in quality. Therein lies the issue.

We didn’t replace Ryan with Henderson. Henderson has been a regular Ireland starter for years.

clsmooth

Jaysus, it’s toxic in here. No shame getting beaten by that French team. Enjoy your negativity lads.

Augme

Reddan with a very rosey view of things I have to say.

prawnsambo

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Williams more or less saying Farrell has not brought ireland forward

Muddy Williams is an awful spoofer. Always has been. He's sometimes right, like a stopped clock. An example him saying that France have moved forward more than we have while omitting the fact that they have 28 pro teams to our 4.

StevenToast

Andy Farrell is an excellent defence coach...

He is not a head coach.

shootermacg

Missed tackles and a few handling errors. Can't blame a coach for that really, that's down to the individual.

Larbre34

Farrell looks a man under pressure and full of anxiety.

razorblunt

mfceiling wrote: »

Who's that?

Ruddock I’d imagine.

hahashake

clsmooth wrote: »

Jaysus, it’s toxic in here. No shame getting beaten by that French team. Enjoy your negativity lads.

Same people that were picking and hoping for a 20+ point French win margin no doubt.

D.Q

clsmooth wrote: »

Jaysus, it’s toxic in here. No shame getting beaten by that French team. Enjoy your negativity lads.

Was just gonna say. This is one of the nastiest forums on match day haha

Combo of glory hunters throwing the toys out of the pram and trolls in for a rise.

AdamD

Both teams should have had 2 or 3 more penalties for holding on, the ref just completely ignored the breakdown, weird to watch.

Both Burns and Byrne were decent today, which is all Sexton has been for a while. So the clamour to keep Sexton around needs to end.

ersatz

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Attacking play is so poor. No invention out of the centers, beyond Ringrose stepping and slipping. Everything is so lateral. No weak side runners at an angle, no effective grubbers or dinks. Best piece of of handling was Lowe and JGP along the sidelines.

Catt needs to be given the boot.

Plus no forward coming onto the ball at pace. France, Italy, and England are at their most dangerous with this simple tactic. Ireland never do it. France made yards all day all day with direct carries and off loads down the middle. Kicking was brainless, I have no idea how Farrell intended to break France down today. Very disappointing given that Irish pressure disrupted France thoroughly early on. I think it boils down to a real lack of quality in players we have and a commensurate lack of tactical preparation by the coaches. Lowe is out of his depth unfortunately though maybe we’d feel different if Keenan has given him another yard for his try. I felt bad for the players late on, they had put themselves in a position to win, against the odds, but had no real strategy to close it out. And I don’t think Sexton and Murray would have made a difference.

Positives are that we disrupted a very good French team and made them look ordinary for most of the game. Line out and scrum were good, ruddock, henshaw, ringrose, CJ, were solid. And we came close, if Burns nailed that early penalty who knows.

Augme

prawnsambo wrote: »

Muddy Williams is an awful spoofer. Always has been. He's sometimes right, like a stopped clock. An example him saying that France have moved forward more than we have while omitting the fact that they have 28 pro teams to our 4.

So we just give up and accept we will never compete with France? Interesting attitude.

Utopia Parkway

Blanco100 wrote: »

How is Jack Carry not considered for this panel, he surely adds something different at 10.

He's definitely better than Billy Burns anyway.