Where to move during Covid/tips for covid emigration

Bodjhrjekekr

Mr.S wrote: »

Unless you are on short term specific contract work, there are strict language restrictions to work for an EU organisation. Fluency in one language, and a B2 level at a second EU language. English is only one of the working languages.

Yeah I actually do have a minor in my degree in an EU language but unfortunately am in no way fluent - prob closer to A2 maybe B1

If I put in a lot of time over the next few months I might be able to get to B2, but don't really have time with work commitments/don't really think I'm motivated to learn it that quick to be honest!

Bodjhrjekekr

mithAine wrote: »

If you are fine with the house-sharing then London will be fine as wouldn’t be much expensive, weather is also good relatively, the English language will be plus, opportunities are more than other options, transport system underground tube is another plus, career options good too, you can really give it a good try at this stage of life and near to your location to visit your home country town or if in case you want to go back, so ticking many points you are looking for so could be a good start rest you can switch to any other location depends how you feel and see the scope.

Yes I would prefer living in a house share as I know no one there, and would like to live with people in similar situations - moving abroad for a few years experience etc Yeah I am not seeing it as a permanent life move, maybe just a year or 2 then assess where I want to go - back to Ireland or move on again, and hopefully the world may be a bit normal again and I could travel. That's my plan at least

I see sheep

Bodjhrjekekr wrote: »

Yes I would prefer living in a house share as I know no one there, and would like to live with people in similar situations - moving abroad for a few years experience etc Yeah I am not seeing it as a permanent life move, maybe just a year or 2 then assess where I want to go - back to Ireland or move on again, and hopefully the world may be a bit normal again and I could travel. That's my plan at least

Any chance you could keep your job and work remotely?

I might be in a position to do this soon.

Bodjhrjekekr

I see sheep wrote: »

Any chance you could keep your job and work remotely?

I might be in a position to do this soon.

It is possible probably to ask, it is a large multi-national, would probably need to move to a location near where they have an office. I actually have grown to really dislike my current role unfortunately, so want to change jobs anyway (they aren't really hiring for other roles at the moment either unfortunately)

Bodjhrjekekr

Bodjhrjekekr wrote: »

Yeah I actually do have a minor in my degree in an EU language but unfortunately am in no way fluent - prob closer to A2 maybe B1

If I put in a lot of time over the next few months I might be able to get to B2, but don't really have time with work commitments/don't really think I'm motivated to learn it that quick to be honest!

You're fluent in English
You have proficiency in a second language

If you're going to live in another country, I wouldn't go to England, its too much like Ireland
Imo, obvs

Jim2007

Bodjhrjekekr wrote: »

- I am aiming to emigrate this summer (think that's a safe bet that most countries will be in an OK position by then, I know it might go into lockdown again though)

Probably unrealistic. It will be well into 2022 before we're in a position to start treating the virus just like the flu.

Given that you do speak a second language (remember A2 is the EU target level for citizens.), I suggest mainland Europe, now that the Brits require a visa, there are plenty of opportunities for the Irish.

If nothing else you'll have a better work-live balance than anywhere in the British Isles.

Bodjhrjekekr

Jim2007 wrote: »

Probably unrealistic. It will be well into 2022 before we're in a position to start treating the virus just like the flu.

Given that you do speak a second language (remember A2 is the EU target level for citizens.), I suggest mainland Europe, now that the Brits require a visa, there are plenty of opportunities for the Irish.

If nothing else you'll have a better work-live balance than anywhere in the British Isles.

I'm not treating it like a flu at all, I don't plan on coming home to my family unless its safe to do so - I would be moving out anyway to a city, in Ireland if I don't move abroad, so I am not really seeing the difference or issue - I will follow whatever restrictions that are in that country (they just happen to be a lot less strict in nearly all countries!). If it is 2022 before things are slightly 'normal' again, I should be settled into my new country to enjoy.

Yeah I am going to keep all options open, I cannot leave until summer anyway due to a work commitment, so won't be job hunting until April or May, I can assess what the covid situation is like then.

Grueller Baby

I've seen a bunch of people recently relocate to Marbella. Their restrictions are nowhere near as severe as ours, it's a short flight and the weather is great.

Bodjhrjekekr

Grueller Baby wrote: »

I've seen a bunch of people recently relocate to Marbella. Their restrictions are nowhere near as severe as ours, it's a short flight and the weather is great.

Yes the idea of moving to Spain would be great, theres not many jobs with well paid salary there though, but maybe in the future its something I would do!

zweton

dobman88 wrote: »

Malta ticks all your boxes. I know of several people who have moved from Ireland to Malta and their only regret is they didnt do it sooner. All work in IT and while the country has it's own language, English is widely spoken.

Salary isn't great there though. And its geting more expensive by the day.

Feenix

Bodjhrjekekr wrote: »

Yes the idea of moving to Spain would be great, theres not many jobs with well paid salary there though, but maybe in the future its something I would do!

And as if you'd move to Marbella if you were going to go there lol.

I've been considering Germany/Netherlands myself too recently. I havent done a whole lot about it other than online research and speak to a few people who are from there. They seem to offer the most when you round everything up, along with Austria I think.

zweton

https://www.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/sick-of-the-boffice-atlantic-island-opens-digital-nomads-village-for-remote-workers-40023523.html

dobman88

zweton wrote: »

Salary isn't great there though. And its geting more expensive by the day.

No it's not tbf, and accommodation is relatively expensive. It's what stopped me from moving there a few years ago even though I had a job secured. You could offset that with the quality of life and almost guaranteed year round good weather, which the OP seems to be after. Room for progression and pay jumps in IT, seasonal part time work if needed and still enjoy all the island has to offer.

Das Reich

Fran has a bone wrote: »

Is Argentina dangerous too?

Not as much but its not the kind of country OP is looking for and the fact there is much more Argentinians in Brazil that the other way explains a lot about their economy.

fits

If I were moving now I’d be looking at an EU job in Brussels or else Germany/Austria/Netherlands. Lots of English jobs out there.

Helsinki is another place to consider. It’s a beautiful safe city. Really lovely in summer time. Public transport is excellent. It can be hard to get jobs with Finnish companies without Finnish but there are lots of multinationals there too. Everyone speaks English. Finland has managed the pandemic better than almost any country in Europe and healthcare is very good. Restrictions are much looser than here at present.

Jim2007

Feenix wrote: »

I've been considering Germany/Netherlands myself too recently. I havent done a whole lot about it other than online research and speak to a few people who are from there. They seem to offer the most when you round everything up, along with Austria I think.

Switzerland has everything Germany and Austria have and then an awful lot more!

Of course I’ve been in Switzerland for over 30 years so I might not be objective

Jim2007

fits wrote: »

Helsinki is another place to consider.

For your sanity definitely not!

I spent a winter working there and there just is not enough daylight hours. There is about five decent hours of daylight if you are lucky and you’ll spend most of them in the office, not good for the health, very depressing.

Bodjhrjekekr

Jim2007 wrote: »

For your sanity definitely not!

I spent a winter working there and there just is not enough daylight hours. There is about five decent hours of daylight if you are lucky and you’ll spend most of them in the office, not good for the health, very depressing.

Yeah I think I will definitely rule out Nordic countries due to this reason! Even in Ireland it was tough working from home during the winter months, never went outdoors during daylight! it's fine now though, so it wasn't too bad for just a few months.

fits

Jim2007 wrote: »

For your sanity definitely not!

I spent a winter working there and there just is not enough daylight hours. There is about five decent hours of daylight if you are lucky and you’ll spend most of them in the office, not good for the health, very depressing.

I was further north for a few years. November and December were tough going but when the snow came, it was lovely. And the summers are beautiful.

Jim2007

Jim2007 wrote: »

For your sanity definitely not!

I spent a winter working there and there just is not enough daylight hours. There is about five decent hours of daylight if you are lucky and you’ll spend most of them in the office, not good for the health, very depressing.

Yea the winters can be very long and dark.
It really is a beautiful country though..... Summers are fab

weldoninhio

Bodjhrjekekr wrote: »

Wondering if anyone has advice - I want to move abroad, currently living at my family home in the middle of no where, working from home for the past year and very much stuck in a rut (I had been anxious to change jobs even before covid and then I just got complacent).
I am under no illusions that it will be that much better abroad but I just need a change. I want to move to a city (considered cities in Ireland but I want a change).

Has anyone any recommendations on a country/city to move to? Main points:
- Would like to move to a large city where a car is not needed.
- Hopefully somewhere where maybe restrictions are a little less severe?
- I'm female in my 20s moving alone, so somewhere safe is important, I will probably live in a house share too
- Also note I work in IT, and would like to have a job secured before I go, so would need to be an English speaking country/have plenty of English speaking jobs.
- I am aiming to emigrate this summer (think that's a safe bet that most countries will be in an OK position by then, I know it might go into lockdown again though)

I was thinking maybe England - I know at the moment their restrictions are as bad as ours, but on a whole last year they seemed to ease restrictions a lot more, and a lot sooner than us.

Has anyone any suggestions, or has anyone emigrated during the pandemic and have any tips?

Gibraltar and Malta both seem to have lots of IT roles going. Think Paddy Power are based out there, so there'd be a good few ex-pats working for them.

bennyineire

Why is no one mentioning Australia?

Both Sydney and Melbourne have decent public transports and little to no Covid restrictions.
Warm, lots of IT jobs and you are young enough to get a VISA

No brainer for me

BTW I used to live in Melbourne, great city

Bodjhrjekekr

bennyineire wrote: »

Why is no one mentioning Australia?

Both Sydney and Melbourne have decent public transports and little to no Covid restrictions.
Warm, lots of IT jobs and you are young enough to get a VISA

No brainer for me

BTW I used to live in Melbourne, great city

I would definitely go there, however it's impossible at the moment, they have very strict entry - there are even loads of citizens stuck overseas at the moment. The usual visa people go on is on hold I think, I would not hold my breath that they will even allow people in in 2022 - I might consider it in a few years still, if they allow immigrants!

Bodjhrjekekr

Bodjhrjekekr wrote: »

I would definitely go there, however it's impossible at the moment, they have very strict entry - there are even loads of citizens stuck overseas at the moment. The usual visa people go on is on hold I think, I would not hold my breath that they will even allow people in in 2022 - I might consider it in a few years still, if they allow immigrants!

One of the lads i work with just took a year out and moved to Australia in January. His partner is starting a job there. It was delayed, by a few months, but definitely is happening.

Bodjhrjekekr

bubblypop wrote: »

One of the lads i work with just took a year out and moved to Australia in January. His partner is starting a job there. It was delayed, by a few months, but definitely is happening.

Has he a very skilled job? I looked at the list and I do not qualify for any of those skills. I have nurse friends who qualify but cannot get in either.

For working holiday visas the borders are closed: "Working holiday makers are an important part of Australia’s economy, filling job shortages and supporting the tourism industry. Once COVID eases and travel restrictions lift, we anticipate that Australia will once more encourage working holiday makers to return."

Bodjhrjekekr

Bodjhrjekekr wrote: »

Has he a very skilled job? I looked at the list and I do not qualify for any of those skills. I have nurse friends who qualify but cannot get in either.

For working holiday visas the borders are closed: "Working holiday makers are an important part of Australia’s economy, filling job shortages and supporting the tourism industry. Once COVID eases and travel restrictions lift, we anticipate that Australia will once more encourage working holiday makers to return."

No, it's his partner that got the job, he won't be working.
She's in medicine.

Bodjhrjekekr

bubblypop wrote: »

No, it's his partner that got the job, he won't be working.
She's in medicine.

Ah OK, unfortunately do not have any partner on the skills list either

tommybrees

For Something really different, go and do the US custom grain harvest. You travel the length and breath of the country in mostly sunny weather and its great craic, meet people from all over the world

CelticRambler

Bodjhrjekekr wrote: »

currently living at my family home in the middle of no where, working from home for the past year and very much stuck in a rut (I had been anxious to change jobs even before covid and then I just got complacent).

Has anyone any suggestions, or has anyone emigrated during the pandemic and have any tips?

My suggestion: do a lot more homework. Having watched many, many people emigrate from various places over three decades, you're firmly in the "red flag" camp. The golden rule of successful emigration is, first and foremost, to be going after something, not running away. All the motivations that you've described are in the running away category - "in a rut", "anxious to change jobs", "got complacent", lockdown restrictions ... as well as these comments :

Bodjhrjekekr wrote: »

also slightly antisocial so I'd probably end up just doing the easier thing and chat with English speakers/expats!

Bodjhrjekekr wrote: »

Yeah I actually do have a minor in my degree in an EU language but ... don't really think I'm motivated to learn it that quick to be honest!

Emigrating, even for a couple of years, requires a particular mindset if you're not going to end up in exactly the same rut. You need to be motivated to do what it takes, and you need to ready to do the not-easier things.

Bodjhrjekekr wrote: »

have been in this job a good few years now and really want a change from it, moving job then gives a good opportunity to move to a new place/2 birds one stone

Changing jobs and changing country risks being very challenging for someone who hasn't bent over backwards to make it happen. Hanging out with ex-pats is all very well, but if those are your only friends, then you could end up being more alone than you are now in rural Ireland.

Bodjhrjekekr wrote: »

I would not feel comfortable moving alone anyway to South America, even due to the language needs alone! and complete different culture too

Similarly, choosing somewhere on the basis of the language that's spoken there is no guarantee of a similar culture. I work (on and off) in Alsace, which is a former province of Switzerland, so no shortage of shared vocab - but I really notice the difference in culture when I socialise with the Swiss across the border.

Fuascailteoir

Amsterdam. Ticks almost every box. Although if you are used to living in wide open spaces it might feel a little claustrophobic after a while. Not that it is very cramped as the city is well designed. Is just people everywhere and despite the carefree reputation it is regimented