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  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Creg12


    chris1231 wrote: »
    I've heard of other exams that ask you to use a mirror to show computer prior to exam.. Did this happen in the October fe1s?

    All the mirrors I have are attached to walls so might be a problemo

    I don't get what you mean?


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 2020FE1


    FEONE wrote: »
    Hi, I was thinking of going into constitutional with the following;
    Equality
    Family
    Liberty
    Seperation of Powers
    Interpretation
    AG
    Mootness/Locus Standi
    Personal Rights
    Religion
    Property

    Going to have a brief knowledge of expression with assembly and association and due course also. Am I missing anything substantial? Really trying to leave out Oireachtas also just don't like that topic.

    I’ve covered more of less the same,plus the Oireachtas, Declarations of unconstitutionality/deferred declarations , The President and Referenda. I’m not sure about things after today though. I need to cover mootness now and I’m struggling as it is. So may well drop one or two of the above,


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 ktvaljean


    2020FE1 wrote: »
    I’ve covered more of less the same,plus the Oireachtas, Declarations of unconstitutionality/deferred declarations , The President and Referenda. I’m not sure about things after today though. I need to cover mootness now and I’m struggling as it is. So may well drop one or two of the above,


    What case is relevant to mootness form today looking at slides I can’t figure it out.


    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭lsheehaneire


    MC v Clinical Director of CMH-mootness


  • Registered Users Posts: 45 examsfe12021


    MC v Clinical Director of CMH-mootness

    can anyone provide a summary for this case? finding it difficult to condense


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  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Katniss1998


    Hey, I am preparing the following for EU
    Direct effect and MS liability
    Institutions
    Judicial Review
    Competition Law
    General Principles.

    Could I get away with only doing FMOG or FMOW not both? I feel like there is too much work in FMOW. Or does anyone know how to narrow down the content for FMOW/Citizenship


  • Registered Users Posts: 135 ✭✭NewFe1


    Has anyone got a summary of the Friends of the Irish Environment v Government case?


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Creg12


    Hey, I am preparing the following for EU
    Direct effect and MS liability
    Institutions
    Judicial Review
    General Principles.

    Could I get away with only doing FMOG or FMOW not both? I feel like there is too much work in FMOW. Or does anyone know how to narrow down the content for FMOW/Citizenship

    I am doing the following

    Direct effect and MS liability
    Judicial Review
    Competition Law
    General Principles
    FMOG are my main 4 and then

    Institutions (as best i can, its big & complex i find)
    Competition Law (area that's tipped only)

    like u I found workers area massive


  • Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭DUMSURFER


    If anyone who did the seminar took a screen recording or voice recording of it, could they message me?

    I took a screen recording but now that I play it back, it only recorded my screen without any audio :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 135 ✭✭NewFe1


    Having that constitutional lecture so close to the exam has really thrown me. Don't know any of those cases.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Katniss1998


    Creg12 wrote: »
    I am doing the following

    Direct effect and MS liability
    Judicial Review
    Competition Law
    General Principles
    FMOG are my main 4 and then

    Institutions (as best i can, its big & complex i find)
    Competition Law (area that's tipped only)

    like u I found workers area massive

    Thanks so much, I might cover FMOG and see how I am feeling!


  • Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭Lawlz


    Hi guys are all your exams showing as upcoming exams on better examinations?

    Just 2 of my 4 are.

    Cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 fe1person


    Criminal

    In addition to
    Offences against the person
    Offences against the property
    Defences

    What else should I be focusing on?


  • Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭FE1Hopefully1


    Lawlz wrote: »
    Hi guys are all your exams showing as upcoming exams on better examinations?

    Just 2 of my 4 are.

    Cheers

    just one of mine is the one that is this week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭Lawlz


    just one of mine is the one that is this week.

    Thanks! I’ve one on Thursday that isn’t showing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭Lallers96


    Good luck to everyone sitting Criminal Law tomorrow!

    This will (hopefully) be my last sitting of these exams if I can manage to plough through 5 at once. Fingers crossed for us all that it's a kind paper tomorrow morning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭Lallers96


    Lawlz wrote: »
    Hi guys are all your exams showing as upcoming exams on better examinations?

    Just 2 of my 4 are.

    Cheers

    Just Criminal and Constitutional for me, and I'm sitting 4 in a row and then EU the following week. I suppose they'll be added tomorrow or the day after!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 ejm47


    MC v Clinical Director of CMH-mootness

    Found the webinar discussion of this case kinda confusing and all over the place now gotta figure it out along with another 50% of the course lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 bigchungus


    Good luck to you too! Fingers crossed we're all happy come 1:30 pm tomorrow


  • Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭lsheehaneire


    NewFe1 wrote: »
    Having that constitutional lecture so close to the exam has really thrown me. Don't know any of those cases.

    Me too but just bare in mind the entire paper can’t be based on 2020 case law , it’s just not realistic. I plan on sticking to my notes and if there are any additional cases mentioned today then I will refer to them. None of the cases today had any huge impact on constitutional law from what I could gather....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 FE1student2890


    Anyone have any last minute advice for criminal law lol?


  • Registered Users Posts: 135 ✭✭NewFe1


    Me too but just bare in mind the entire paper can’t be based on 2020 case law , it’s just not realistic. I plan on sticking to my notes and if there are any additional cases mentioned today then I will refer to them. None of the cases today had any huge impact on constitutional law from what I could gather....

    I'm just worried that there will be an entire question on the friends of the irish environment case. Hoping it appears as part of the case note question so I can avoid it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Legalapples


    
    
    Anyone have any last minute advice for criminal law lol?

    Just from recollection just make sure you’re advising the right person ... Might seem like an obvious thing but when I sat the exam one of the problem questions was shaped as though I was to advise the person who committed the crime but at the end of the question it wanted you to advise the DPP


  • Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭awsah


    ejm47 wrote: »
    Found the webinar discussion of this case kinda confusing and all over the place now gotta figure it out along with another 50% of the course lol

    i dont know will it come up on its own, perhaps part of a question. she was in the CMH after murdering her son and attempting to murder her daughter. there was a change in the law (this is the 9pm condensed version - something to do wiht the criminal insanity act and that she was found not guilty by reason of insantiy the court had no right to hold her any longer - was my take from it anyway) so this case involved some issue as the clinical director was supposed to help her wiht housing or something like that but didnt

    mootness
    the case was moot as by the time it came around the issue had been resolved, however the courts stated that as she was claiming damages for a breach of her constitutional rights as an action the case was not deemed to be moot
    however, it went on to say that damages are only available when there is no recourse available at common law, here there was a common law action for misfeasance in public office but for that you need to show a strong probability of male fides on the part of the defendant and he had not acted mal fides so the claim failed. there was reference that she could have taken this to the ECHR but this was not done (not sure why) so it has not been decided and never will be unless someone else brings an case


  • Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭lsheehaneire


    awsah wrote: »
    i dont know will it come up on its own, perhaps part of a question. she was in the CMH after murdering her son and attempting to murder her daughter. there was a change in the law (this is the 9pm condensed version - something to do wiht the criminal insanity act and that she was found not guilty by reason of insantiy the court had no right to hold her any longer - was my take from it anyway) so this case involved some issue as the clinical director was supposed to help her wiht housing or something like that but didnt

    mootness
    the case was moot as by the time it came around the issue had been resolved, however the courts stated that as she was claiming damages for a breach of her constitutional rights as an action the case was not deemed to be moot
    however, it went on to say that damages are only available when there is no recourse available at common law, here there was a common law action for misfeasance in public office but for that you need to show a strong probability of male fides on the part of the defendant and he had not acted mal fides so the claim failed. there was reference that she could have taken this to the ECHR but this was not done (not sure why) so it has not been decided and never will be unless someone else brings an case

    I think the parties “compromised “ - on an amount so there was no need for her to go down ECHR route.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 LawNerd2020


    Does anybody have any way to synopsise this case when it comes to the Family and Article 41. I don't really get the point of it/see it's significance. I don't even know where I could slot it into my notes on Family. Today's seminar really through me!! Panicking at this point!!

    I wonder could Gorry come up as an essay to ask about the family and Article 41 in some way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭awsah


    I think the parties “compromised “ - on an amount so there was no need for her to go down ECHR route.

    yes i thought this but didn't know for definite, thanks!


  • Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭lsheehaneire


    NewFe1 wrote: »
    I'm just worried that there will be an entire question on the friends of the irish environment case. Hoping it appears as part of the case note question so I can avoid it.

    If it does appear as an essay type question then it will have to focus on a particular area whether it’s non justiciability, standing or unenumerated rights so if you have case law in these areas and a brief understanding on the Friends of the Environment case you should be ok ..


  • Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭awsah


    Does anybody have any way to synopsise this case when it comes to the Family and Article 41. I don't really get the point of it/see it's significance. I don't even know where I could slot it into my notes on Family. Today's seminar really through me!! Panicking at this point!!

    I wonder could Gorry come up as an essay to ask about the family and Article 41 in some way.

    simple terms - both the same/similar cases/circumstances. Minsiter tried to deport Nigerian married to irish citizen. appealed on family rights, Minsiter refused to quash deportation order. SC ruled that the Minsiter erred and did not consider the family strong enough

    He does, however, have to identify, consider and
    properly weigh the couple’s constitutional rights and their Convention rights against the
    important countervailing interests on the State side when conducting the balancing exercise
    required of him. What is required is a case-by-case analysis – the outcome will hinge on the
    particular facts and circumstances of a given case. Where the Minister erred in the decisions
    challenged in these proceedings is that he did not elevate the constitutional rights of the
    Applicants to the position that he should have. They are the starting point for the balancing
    exercise required and they must be afforded considerable weight. This is not to say that, after
    conducting the evaluation called for, he may not nonetheless conclude in respect of a given
    application that the rights of the State must prevail. In so doing, however, he must pay due
    regard to, and afford adequate weight to, the constitutional rights of the family under Article
    41. He did not do so in these decisions.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 21 LawNerd2020


    Thank you very much Awash. Kind of difficult to see how that case could be examined on the paper (apart from in the case note question). I could be vert wrong though. I found today's seminar quite confusing. Anybody have predictions based on today.

    I would love a question on interpretation, Pres/AG, SOP and a nice FOE/Property right type question.


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