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lawDani

FE1Hopefully1 wrote: »

Has anyone received the marks for Eu or property ?

received my script for EU earlier this week, no marks yet

Corplawtrainee

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

How can big firms justify almost 80k or above paypackets for NQs that are in their mid 20s? Insane figures. I know solicitors and barristers that have worked for decades that don't earn as much.

It’s actually far lower than U.S. firms in London for similar levels of work (obviously billable hours are a higher). Kirkland & Ellis pays 145k for NQs - good few associates from the big 5 firms have lateraled over there.

Diamond_Hands

Corplawtrainee wrote: »

It’s actually far lower than U.S. firms in London for similar levels of work (obviously billable hours are a higher). Kirkland & Ellis pays 145k for NQs - good few associates from the big 5 firms have lateraled over there.

A total gravy train if you're smart enough to get in.

lsheehaneire

Have the LS given any indication of when we will get the result to our scripts?

I know we are trying to move on from the LS bashing but....in all fairness what good are the scripts without the exam marks ? Was it to deter people from applying for a re-check?

RudiN99

Anyone happen to have grids for Criminal/EU? Would hugely appreciate!

FE1Hopefully1

lsheehaneire wrote: »

Have the LS given any indication of when we will get the result to our scripts?

I know we are trying to move on from the LS bashing but....in all fairness what good are the scripts without the exam marks ? Was it to deter people from applying for a re-check?

I think some examiners printed them off and corrected that way and others didn’t. I got equity with the marks on it

biglawhead420

tommytimber wrote: »

Does anyone know of salaries for Trainees and NQs in small firms?

Depending on where in Ireland.

I have seen some in Dublin fetch into the high 50s or 60. In Cork I think 38-55 is kind of the rate.

Not sure about elsewhere but maybe a bit less.

Fourcourts

lsheehaneire wrote: »

Have the LS given any indication of when we will get the result to our scripts?

I know we are trying to move on from the LS bashing but....in all fairness what good are the scripts without the exam marks ? Was it to deter people from applying for a re-check?

I received my script a week ago and am still waiting for the marks.

Some scripts were viewed online and the results were sent to the LS electronically so I imagine they’re scrambling through the emails now trying to find individual results.

Not bashing is all well and good when there is nothing to bash about! However the reality is that nothing has changed- there is a complete lack of transparency with scripts that weren’t physically marked. It also leaves the door wide open for human error when the scripts are viewed online, marked remotely and then results are emailed in separately and recorded by the LS.

They should have issued guidance to examiners to print and physically mark the scripts.

lsheehaneire

Fourcourts wrote: »

I received my script a week ago and am still waiting for the marks.

Some scripts were viewed online and the results were sent to the LS electronically so I imagine they’re scrambling through the emails now trying to find individual results.

Not bashing is all well and good when there is nothing to bash about! However the reality is that nothing has changed- there is a complete lack of transparency with scripts that weren’t physically marked. It also leaves the door wide open for human error when the scripts are viewed online, marked remotely and then results are emailed in separately and recorded by the LS.

They should have issued guidance to examiners to print and physically mark the scripts.

Totally agree. I have a feeling that the Examiners are a law onto themselves. No pun intended!

arubamuuu

Anyone have any Equity sample answers (not Griffith) they're willing to swap?

I have Griffith for Equity, Property, Criminal, Contract and Company.

jip000

Hi there, is there anyone who passed contract who is willing to share their script? I cant figure out what im doing so wrong and would like to compare. Have materials to trade

lawgrad49

Hey guys, does anyone know how long Eoin Carolan has been the examiner for Constitutional? Trying to figure how far back one should go when studying past papers.

I found when studying for EU that when Dr MacMaolain took over (think it was 2015/16) there was a slight shift in style to the questions and looking over older past papers was a waste of time.

I know constitutional is so unpredictable etc so not trying to figure out any patterns or predictions just trying to lighten the study load haha

awsah

lawgrad49 wrote: »

Hey guys, does anyone know how long Eoin Carolan has been the examiner for Constitutional? Trying to figure how far back one should go when studying past papers.

I found when studying for EU that when Dr MacMaolain took over (think it was 2015/16) there was a slight shift in style to the questions and looking over older past papers was a waste of time.

I know constitutional is so unpredictable etc so not trying to figure out any patterns or predictions just trying to lighten the study load haha

can I ask what topics you are focusing on for constitution? trying in vein to narrow them down!

and sorry I do not know the answer to your question

loosehead1973

Hi folks anyone got up to date non-Griffith sample answers for Equity and Constit. I will pay for them or swap have piles of notes on all subjects

lawgrad49

awsah wrote: »

can I ask what topics you are focusing on for constitution? trying in vein to narrow them down!

and sorry I do not know the answer to your question

Same i'm trying to narrow down. At the minute i'm keeping it pretty broad, going through Past Papers and making sure I can identify topics (some of the problem q's are tricky with the topic misxing) hoping to get surface knowledge in nearly all topics bar the small ones like Preamble, Emergency & War, Assembly/Association.

I'd say then 3/4 weeks out I'll try to nail down the case law for the 'big ones' so SOP, Art 38.1, Rights, Freedom of Speech/Religion.

WesternC123

Constitutional

Trying to limit topics for Constitutional because I really don't think I'll get through it all.
So far I have
- President/AG
- Constitutional Interpretation
- SOP
- Sovereignty
- Trial in Due Course
- Equality
- Private Property
- Freedom of Religion

I'm planning on doing the Family/Education and unenumerated rights (although not sure what ones)
Any advice on topics people think I definitely need to add would be really helpful!

Thanks.

awsah

WesternC123 wrote: »

Constitutional

Trying to limit topics for Constitutional because I really don't think I'll get through it all.
So far I have
- President/AG
- Constitutional Interpretation
- SOP
- Sovereignty
- Trial in Due Course
- Equality
- Private Property
- Freedom of Religion

I'm planning on doing the Family/Education and unenumerated rights (although not sure what ones)
Any advice on topics people think I definitely need to add would be really helpful!

Thanks.

This is what I have narrowed it down to:

SOP
Constitutional Interpretation
Unenumerated rights
trial in due course of law
art 38.1 rights
freedom of religion
president A/G
sovereignty
equality
private property
family and education
courts
referendum and reform

AlexTG356

Are some people still waiting on a refund for a November exam?

WesternC123

awsah wrote: »

This is what I have narrowed it down to:

SOP
Constitutional Interpretation
Unenumerated rights
trial in due course of law
art 38.1 rights
freedom of religion
president A/G
sovereignty
equality
private property
family and education
courts
referendum and reform

That's great thanks! these are pretty much what I had in mind too!

Kellyg248

Hello all, anyone know what time of day the upcoming exams will be held?

FE1Hopefully1

Kellyg248 wrote: »

Hello all, anyone know what time of day the upcoming exams will be held?

Before they changed the timetable it was 10-1:30 so assuming it will be the same !

LS3

Did that person ever share the results from that google answers where we put in our results from november?

BBall2015

Am I right in saying the applications for March 2021 have not opened yet?

I keep checking the website but can't see it anywhere, I just want to make sure I don't accidentally miss it!

NewFe1

BBall2015 wrote: »

Am I right in saying the applications for March 2021 have not opened yet?

I keep checking the website but can't see it anywhere, I just want to make sure I don't accidentally miss it!

Yes

jip000

AlexTG356 wrote: »

Are some people still waiting on a refund for a November exam?

Yup, still waiting. Havent heard a thing...

LawBoy2018

Probably a stupid question, but how many words/answer are people aiming for these days?

phildub

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

Probably a stupid question, but how many words/answer are people aiming for these days?

I would say quality over quantity when it comes to these exams, if you are worried about a word count you could end up adding in irrelevant topics to fluff up your question which will adversely affect your marks!

LawBoy2018

phildub wrote: »

I would say quality over quantity when it comes to these exams, if you are worried about a word count you could end up adding in irrelevant topics to fluff up your question which will adversely affect your marks!

I definitely agree! Just curious as to what people would be aiming for generally.

FE1Hopefully1

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

Probably a stupid question, but how many words/answer are people aiming for these days?

There’s no world count option available so have no idea how many words I wrote but my answers seemed to be around 3 pages typed when I look at them

Obviously that includes spacing for paragraphs and all

Jeremiah25

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

Probably a stupid question, but how many words/answer are people aiming for these days?

I would say anything from 3-6 per question for the written exam. Much harder to judge when typing though!