Help with garden fencing

Paul_Mc1988

I'm in the process of doing up the back garden and it currently has two 20 meter long 6 foot high block walls on either side and a 9 meter long 6 foot high wall across the back.

The other half wants horizontal slatted fence buts the panels are mad money. Any ideas were to get them at a reasonable price or even get the slats wholesale and I could build them myself?

CelticRambler

Am not local, so can't help with supplier suggestions; but is there any room for negotiation, do you think? You could create a very impressive boundary arrangement with a set of trellises and planters stained/painted in a strong colour, set against the wall painted white. Trellises would be a lot cheaper to make or buy; the planters might not be needed if you have a suitable bed at the foot of the wall(s). One 2.5m trellis for every 5m of wall, or a 2m trellis for 4m of wall.

Paul_Mc1988

No no room really. We both want a minimalist garden so no plants. Just roll out grass and paving.

FishOnABike

Do you intend knocking the 49 metres of wall and replacing it with fencing / horizontal panels?

fritzelly

FishOnABike wrote: »

Do you intend knocking the 49 metres of wall and replacing it with fencing / horizontal panels?

If so then just go with some trellis or panelling - must be a lot cheaper and a lot less work

Paul_Mc1988

FishOnABike wrote: »

Do you intend knocking the 49 metres of wall and replacing it with fencing / horizontal panels?

No i was going to screw battons/posts to it and then the fence onto that

FishOnABike

Paul_Mc1988 wrote: »

No i was going to screw battons/posts to it and then the fence onto that

I can't see the sense in that.

The gap between the wall and panels will provide a location for building up debris and an ideal home for vermin. The front of the panels will need to be retreated with varnish / exterior wood treatment every few years. It won't be possible to access the rere of the panels to retreat them every few years so I would expect the panels to begin to show signs of wood rot prematurely and ultimately need to be replaced before their time.

For a clean, minimalist, low maintenance solution I'd try to convince the other half of the simple beauty of the existing walls. If the blockwork and pointing isn't the neatest I'd look at the cost of getting it rendered vs the cost of attaching panelling to it and the higher maintenance costs of the panelling.

ontour2

I did c. 20m of 7ft of horizontal slatted panels about 2 years ago. It worked out between €30 - €35 per metre of wall.

I painted the walls black first to get a better shadow. That part was painful.
I sourced the larch battens and posts from a sawmill in Rathdrum, Co. Wicklow. A pleasure to deal with and can cut to size to make install easier.
Hired a nail gun and proceeded to torment the neighbours for two days. Anchored posts to the wall.
I have no plan to treat/ varnish the wood. It is well ventilated. If I do not like it going grey, I can use a wood reviver.

It is a relatively easy DIY job.

rje66

This is a before n after. Is this what you had in mind?. Its easily enough to do as a diy project. Also 3rd pic is shiplap onto older walls.

rje66

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Paul_Mc1988

ontour2 wrote: »

I did c. 20m of 7ft of horizontal slatted panels about 2 years ago. It worked out between €30 - €35 per metre of wall.

I painted the walls black first to get a better shadow. That part was painful.
I sourced the larch battens and posts from a sawmill in Rathdrum, Co. Wicklow. A pleasure to deal with and can cut to size to make install easier.
Hired a nail gun and proceeded to torment the neighbours for two days. Anchored posts to the wall.
I have no plan to treat/ varnish the wood. It is well ventilated. If I do not like it going grey, I can use a wood reviver.

It is a relatively easy DIY job.

Yes this is what I had in mind. Would you have the name of the place in rathdrum?

loyatemu

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use https://imgbb.com/ and copy the code to paste in the image.

Paul_Mc1988

rje66 wrote: »

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Much appreciated

ontour2

Wood Industries, Rathdrum

rje66

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First one is shiplap covering old walls. Two and three is a before n after, its microshades. I bit more expensive than shiplap. But would suit your minimalist look.

ontour2

here is my amateur effort!

ErinGoBrath

ontour2 wrote: »

here is my amateur effort!

That looks great, what wood did you use and did you treat or stain it? Is it just nailed to vertical batons on the brickwork?

ontour2

ErinGoBrath wrote: »

That looks great, what wood did you use and did you treat or stain it? Is it just nailed to vertical batons on the brickwork?

Larch is the wood
Not treated or stained. Not as 'bright' now as it is in the picture but not grey yet either. Time will tell how it survives but I think it should be fine for 15-20 years.
Vertical battens on the brickwork are much thicker and are treated and stained black. First reason is that they are in contact with the concrete walls and the second reason is that I think the horizontal battens look better when you do not see the intersect of the vertical batten. Personal preference though!
Nail gun to attach horizontal battens. used stainless steel nails to avoid rust stains.

Paul_Mc1988

ontour2 wrote: »

here is my amateur effort!

Thats exactly what she wants. Now to price up 90 m2 of it

Thanks everyone for the help

rje66

ontour2 wrote: »

here is my amateur effort!

The bed under the Holly, is that metal?? If so whst are the dimensions of it?.
Nice job by the way.

rje66

rje66 wrote: »

The bed under the Holly, is that metal?? If so whst are the dimensions of it?.
Nice job by the way.

Dimensions of metal not bed!!

FrancieBrady

Might be of interest,

ontour2

rje66 wrote: »

The bed under the Holly, is that metal?? If so whst are the dimensions of it?.
Nice job by the way.

Yes, it is corten steel. Each of the 4 sections is c. 40cmx120cm. The sheet of corten was 8ftx4ft so I go it cut in to three lengths and got two of those lengths folded to create the two L shapes.

You can buy premade corten planters and surrounds but they were far too expensive for my budget.

lordgoat

ontour2 wrote: »

Yes, it is corten steel. Each of the 4 sections is c. 40cmx120cm. The sheet of corten was 8ftx4ft so I go it cut in to three lengths and got two of those lengths folded to create the two L shapes.

You can buy premade corten planters and surrounds but they were far too expensive for my budget.

Love to hear more on how you made the bed/planters, would be very nice to have some of these out the front with nice shrubs in them

thanks

rje66

ontour2 wrote: »

Yes, it is corten steel. Each of the 4 sections is c. 40cmx120cm. The sheet of corten was 8ftx4ft so I go it cut in to three lengths and got two of those lengths folded to create the two L shapes.

You can buy premade corten planters and surrounds but they were far too expensive for my budget.

Any suppliers in Dublin area?? Rough costs??

ontour2

For the planters, I priced buying premade Corten planters but it was coming out at about €3k for the 5 that I needed so that was off the cards.
BA Steel on Prussia St seem to be the local specialists in Corten. They did the absolutely stunning work at the Dublin Port offices. They are quite big so it is a bit of the luck of the draw as to whether they want a smaller project and how that impacts their pricing. There are quite a few sheet metal companies around who can do the cutting and folding so worth checking your locality.

To manage the cost, I researched the manufacturers size of Corten sheets and designed the planters with the minimum of cuts and folds. The five raised beds took 2 sheets of 2.5m x 1.25m with 7 cuts and 14 folds. I drew this out and checked around a few sheet metal fabricators. Some did not want to touch Corten, others were happy to price. I am not sure that my costs will be much use to you as I reckon it was either my best negotiations or pure luck! I got a couple of other things done so the planters were about €500. You would probably be lucky to buy the two sheets for that now.

Now for the actual useful information! If you look at the photo attached, the two pillars are Corten steel and the two plant pots are bins, probably IKEA, sprayed with 'Plasti-kote Metallic Spray Rust' It is €8-10 per can. I have sprayed pots, light fittings, door hardware and I am impressed at how well it has held up. The key is to actually spray it on quite unevenly, which perfectly suited my skills!

rje66

Cheers. Thought it wouldn't be easy. Bigger companies are a pain to deal with on small things. Would really only be interested in getting sheets. Can cut my self and Would design around the sizes I have then.