Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings

Idbatterim · 22-02-2021 10:34am

They wont and cant tell us what figures we need to reach, to get things opened. Even if we all locked ourselves inside, there is no number they will be happy with. After the Christmas surge they are even more hyper sensitive. So I dont really buy into the " well businesses are closed because of irresponsible behaviour " they would have another bull**** excuse if the numbers were a tenth of what they are...

Idbatterim · 22-02-2021 10:36am

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Social housing is been built.

Fair society ay?

Laughable, the free house club top of the priority list as usual. The only ones worth a damn according to rte the left wing media and left wing dail..

Idbatterim · 22-02-2021 10:40am

fin12 wrote: »

Anyone else not care what the numbers are anymore cause it’s. Seems to me even if we are single figures, we are still locked up and that’s not the best bit... budget 2022, thank u so much for staying at home now here’s a nice new tax as ur rewards. **** this b*stard government.

Imagine you could fast forward to the budget tomorrow, but based on where the figures will be in September or October of this year, the clappy seals would change their tune pretty quickly when it hits them in the pockets, like it has hundreds of thousands of others

Corby Trouser Press · 22-02-2021 10:43am

Boggles wrote: »

There is houses been built today.

But who stated the rest of construction will be closed until "Early May"?

Under the legislation as it stands private housing was allowed continue from 11th Jan to end of Jan only if it was at final completion stage.

Social housing the same but to the end of Feb.

Other big projects exempt as outlined before.

Any works going on in contravention of this are irrelevant.

The legislation is in place and no easing in sight.

I don't really care if lads are working away on jobs that are supposed to be closed down, that's up to them.

Re Early May see below from the journal dot ie;

"Beyond the reopening of schools, no major easing of restrictions is expected until May."

...

"Construction and retail are likely to be the first industries allowed to reopen once the spread of Covid-19 slows"

Windmill100000 · 22-02-2021 10:44am

Idbatterim wrote: »

Imagine you could fast forward to the budget tomorrow, but based on where the figures will be in September or October of this year, the flappy seals would change their tune pretty quickly when it hits them in the pockets, like it has hundreds of thousands of others

We are all expecting a hit. Dont know why you are assuming people will change their tune based on that.

hamburgham · 22-02-2021 10:44am

Corby Trouser Press wrote: »

No mention of the Construction Industry?!

A strategy based on the vague reasoning of "people moving around"... and doubling down on it now too!

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And they so clearly came up with the 'moving around' nonsense when they were scrambling around trying to find around some reason to explain their decisions. It also came in handy for schools and GAA matches.

Idbatterim · 22-02-2021 10:46am

Windmill100000 wrote: »

We are all expecting a hit. Dont know why you are assuming people will change their tune based on that.

It's one thing them saying it, wait until it has to be paid for...

Windmill100000 · 22-02-2021 10:48am

Idbatterim wrote: »

It's one thing them saying it, wait until it has to be paid for...

So you know what we everyone's reaction is going to be knowing this is coming down the line. Ok.

Idbatterim · 22-02-2021 10:49am

Windmill100000 wrote: »

We are all expecting a hit. Dont know why you are assuming people will change their tune based on that.

When they usually only get the fiver etc on top of the world class welfare each budget they are offended. It's over, there are no more welfare increases, generous ps pay increases on already over the top rates. It's all over...

Rte the media and nphet will be devastated when all of this ends...

Corby Trouser Press · 22-02-2021 10:51am

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Social housing is been built.

Fair society ay?

Nothing should be restricted in relation to Construction.

Amazingly, in a phone conversation with a Cabinet Ministers assistant it was actually said to me could I not see if my builder could come and finish the job?!

No sorry, your boss is sitting around that Cabinet table making the legislation, it's not my job to work around your nonsense rules, it's your job to recognize the restrictions on construction as a mistaken panic measure, that have long since passed any point of being a useful public health intervention.

MINISTERS NEED FILTER THE ADVICE FROM NPHET THROUGH THE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL REALITIES!!!

Windmill100000 · 22-02-2021 10:52am

Idbatterim wrote: »

When they usually only get the fiver etc on top of the world class welfare each budget they are offended. It's over, there are no more welfare increases, generous ps pay increases on already over the top rates. It's all over...

Rte the media and nphet will be devastated when all of this ends...

Ok, we get it. You know how we are ALL going to feel.

Idbatterim · 22-02-2021 10:53am

Corby Trouser Press wrote: »

Nothing should be restricted in relation to Construction.

Amazingly, in a phone conversation with a Cabinet Ministers assistant it was actually said to me could I not see if my builder could come and finish the job?!

No sorry, your boss is sitting around that Cabinet table making the legislation, it's not my job to work around your nonsense rules, it's your job to recognize the restrictions on construction as a mistaken panic measure, that have long since passed any point of being a useful public health intervention.

MINISTERS NEED FILTER THE ADVICE FROM NPHET THROUGH THE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL REALITIES!!!

If the numbers were higher, due to construction bring open. The vulnerable would just shield more the way it should be...

Boggles · 22-02-2021 10:53am

Corby Trouser Press wrote: »

Under the legislation as it stands private housing was allowed continue from 11th Jan to end of Jan only if it was at final completion stage.

Social housing the same but to the end of Feb.

Other big projects exempt as outlined before.

Any works going on in contravention of this are irrelevant.

The legislation is in place and no easing in sight.

I don't really care if lads are working away on jobs that are supposed to be closed down, that's up to them.

Re Early May see below from the journal dot ie;

"Beyond the reopening of schools, no major easing of restrictions is expected until May."

...

"Construction and retail are likely to be the first industries allowed to reopen once the spread of Covid-19 slows"

So there is houses been built and the rest of construction after schools is first on the list to open?

22-02-2021 10:56am

Boggles wrote: »

So there is houses been built and the rest of construction after schools is first on the list to open?

No no no boggles. The thread has decided it know exactly what the government want to do in spite of it being well flagged that construction will be one of the first restriction eased after schools

Corby Trouser Press · 22-02-2021 10:58am

Boggles wrote: »

So there is houses been built and the rest of construction after schools is first on the list to open?

Yes, social housing on a limited basis till the end of this week.

Officially speaking from next Monday 1st of March no works can continue on housing in Ireland.

That's where were at.

22-02-2021 11:08am

Idbatterim wrote: »

Imagine you could fast forward to the budget tomorrow, but based on where the figures will be in September or October of this year, the clappy seals would change their tune pretty quickly when it hits them in the pockets, like it has hundreds of thousands of others

And yet here we have a mindless procession of thanks to a post sharing data from a TD that is obviously incorrect to anyone who pays attention to anything

billybonkers · 22-02-2021 11:08am

Corby Trouser Press wrote: »

Yes, social housing on a limited basis till the end of this week.

Officially speaking from next Monday 1st of March no works can continue on housing in Ireland.

That's where were at.

But when can I get a builder in to do my extension?

Boggles · 22-02-2021 11:14am

Corby Trouser Press wrote: »

Yes, social housing on a limited basis till the end of this week.

Officially speaking from next Monday 1st of March no works can continue on housing in Ireland.

That's where were at.

Of course they can, it's up to the discretion of LA's. Any legislation can be also extended at the stroke of a pen.

You do have a point to be made, but you can do it honestly. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.

I gather from your posts your a frustrated self builder?

That is a tough situation to be in. I sympathize.

Did it ever occur to you though, that your builder could be using the restrictions to catch up on other work?

It's the nature of the business with these firms, they constantly stretch themselves and are constantly under pressure.

Captain_Crash · 22-02-2021 11:16am

Corby Trouser Press wrote: »

Yes, social housing on a limited basis till the end of this week.

Officially speaking from next Monday 1st of March no works can continue on housing in Ireland.

That's where were at.

So it’s true to say that despite case numbers falling, things are getting more restrictive??

paw patrol · 22-02-2021 11:17am

billybonkers wrote: »

But when can I get a builder in to do my extension?

if you deem it essential they can do it now.

pick one

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/2dc71-level-5/#construction

malinheader · 22-02-2021 11:26am

Mandatory hotel quarantine still 3 or 4 weeks away for anyone entering the country. Nice to see them acting quickly.

Corby Trouser Press · 22-02-2021 11:27am

Boggles wrote: »

Of course they can, it's up to the discretion of LA's. Any legislation can be also extended at the stroke of a pen.

You do have a point to be made, but you can do it honestly. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.

I gather from your posts your a frustrated self builder?

That is a tough situation to be in. I sympathize.

Did it ever occur to you though, that your builder could be using the restrictions to catch up on other work?

It's the nature of the business with these firms, they constantly stretch themselves and are constantly under pressure.

1) Dishonest am I?

Nothing tells me construction restrictions will lift before end of April from that frontpage of the journal dot ie article.

You may interpret it differently.

2) Doubt he has much else on.

Anytime I ring him now he answers straight away, during normal times it would be 2 missed calls and a text before he'd ring me back :pac:

If we had a site meeting his phone would ring 3 or 4 times in a half hr period.

He just sounds depressed at this stage, much like my friends working in the industry at home on €350 a week.

Windmill100000 · 22-02-2021 11:27am

It's surprising the amount of people that do not know about the exemptions and claim everything is shut down. That list has been out since we went into lockdown. I suppose for some it doesn't suit the narrative to acknowledge such things.

Corby Trouser Press · 22-02-2021 11:29am

paw patrol wrote: »

if you deem it essential they can do it now.

pick one

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/2dc71-level-5/#construction

I think that guy was looking for an honest answer?

If only I could deem my house an...
"essential health and related projects including those relevant to preventing, limiting, minimising or slowing the spread of COVID-19"

22-02-2021 11:31am

Windmill100000 wrote: »

It's surprising the amount of people that do not know about the exemptions and claim everything is shut down. That list has been out since we went into lockdown. I suppose for some it doesn't suit the narrative to acknowledge such things.

Its almost as if some just spend their time fulminating in the internet, and don't actually live in the real world

Corby Trouser Press · 22-02-2021 11:32am

Windmill100000 wrote: »

It's surprising the amount of people that do not know about the exemptions and claim everything is shut down. That list has been out since we went into lockdown. I suppose for some it doesn't suit the narrative to acknowledge such things.

You referring to me?

I am well aware of them and have been from whenever this shítshow started on Jan 6th.

The reality is it is an extraordinarily restrictive list.

I individual builders are adhering to it or not is another matter.

Windmill100000 · 22-02-2021 11:34am

Corby Trouser Press wrote: »

You referring to me?

I am well aware of them and have been from whenever this shítshow started on Jan 6th.

The reality is it is an extraordinarily restrictive list.

I individual builders are adhering to it or not is another matter.

I'm referring to the poster asking if they can get an extension now (if in fact that were actually being legitimate).

Corby Trouser Press · 22-02-2021 11:35am

Windmill100000 wrote: »

I'm referring to the poster asking if they can get an extension now (if in fact that were actually being legitimate).

Ok, my bad

Windmill100000 · 22-02-2021 11:38am

The list is restrictive because we are in level 5. When the country saw huge rises in cases in Jan it was deemed essential to shut many industries down. At the time we had the virus spreading faster than anywhere in Europe. Had that not been the case things would have been different.

Necro · 22-02-2021 11:43am

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