Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

RobitTV

I think we should enter Level 6 restrictions which would require the closure of the covid testing centres - no human contact at all allowed

Locotastic

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Niall, when people talk of health systems collapsing, they're not suggesting the hospitals will crumble to the ground.

It's about people not being able to receive treatment for all sorts of ailments, as capacity has been breached.
This has happened numerous times all over the world, and is happening in multiple countries right now.

Sure its been happening here for years.

Locotastic

RobitTV wrote: »

I think we should enter Level 6 restrictions which would require the closure of the covid testing centres - no human contact at all allowed

We'd have no cases at all then, good idea!!

Graham

niallo27 wrote: »

Hospitals send patients to other hospitals all the time, do you think this is a collapse.

lol

You trying to say it's a sign things are running normally?

Ha Long Bay

This is what you said:

niallo27 wrote: »

You do know nearly every other country in the world is more open than us, and not one, not a single one has had a catastrophe in their health system. Not a single ****en one.

I was just trying to show how it does have an impact on healthcare systems showing where it has happened.

niallo27 wrote: »

Hospitals send patients to other hospitals all the time, do you think this is a collapse.

To different countries? Not typically unless for some special procedures for example a patient in Ireland going to London for a heart transplant not due to capacity.

niallo27

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Niall, when people talk of health systems collapsing, they're not suggesting the hospitals will crumble to the ground.

It's about people not being able to receive treatment for all sorts of ailments, as capacity has been breached.
This has happened numerous times all over the world, and is happening in multiple countries right now.

Average wait time before covid was up to 10 hours in A and E, we had 100s on trolleys, people left to die on trolleys, out of curiosity do you consider this as a collapse. By the way I do respect your opinion, I think your wrong but do respect it.

Micky 32

Neagra wrote: »

then people are leaving their mobiles at home
i do.

Or turning location services off.

Graham

niallo27 wrote: »

Average wait time before covid was up to 10 hours in A and E, we had 100s on trolleys, people left to die on trolleys, out of curiosity do you consider this as a collapse.

Do you think the solutions is to add hundreds of covid patients into the mix?

TonyMaloney

Aph2016 wrote: »

A good question I rarely see asked.

It's been asked and answered a thousand times.

We have data on it now. It doesn't support your argument.

TonyMaloney

manniot2 wrote: »

I can’t understand it. A few times over the last few months I’ve had a slight runny nose, sore throat maybe. Never crossed my mind to go for a bloody test. Why in the name of god would you add to the hysteria. Just avoid people ffs.

Everybody say hello to the reason you're stuck indoors.

Ffs

FintanMcluskey

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Everybody say hello to the reason you're stuck indoors.

Ffs

Eh, they literally said they avoid people

A positive test won’t magically prevent transmission

In fact travelling to get tested is increasing risk of transmission

Tipsy McSwagger

If there is no proper plan put in place soon then everyone bar the Kool Aid drinkers will just not care anymore. We need a light at the end of the tunnel. Martin is an absolute cowardly pathetic excuse of someone supposed to be the leader of the country. Where is he? Instead we have to keep listening to Dr Doomahan. A man who revels in the misery of this virus.

darconio

Anyway lads mark the date, the final goalpost has been set to the 14th of July

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-eu-vaccines/eus-breton-eu-has-absolutely-no-need-for-sputnik-v-vaccine-idUSKBN2BD0QI

“Today, we clearly have the capacity to deliver 300 to 350 million doses by the end of June and therefore by July 14 (...) we have the possibility of reaching continent-wide immunity,” he said.

bb1234567

darconio wrote: »

Anyway lads mark the date, the final goalpost has been set to the 14th of July

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-eu-vaccines/eus-breton-eu-has-absolutely-no-need-for-sputnik-v-vaccine-idUSKBN2BD0QI

“Today, we clearly have the capacity to deliver 300 to 350 million doses by the end of June and therefore by July 14 (...) we have the possibility of reaching continent-wide immunity,” he said.

Takes a different government to our own to grant us any certainties whatsoever of our future

RobitTV

When can we mark the date for the next movement of the goalpost? August? September?

Tipsy McSwagger

The UK will be vaccinating dogs to use them up by the time our lot administer it to 1 million people.

ypres5

darconio wrote: »

Anyway lads mark the date, the final goalpost has been set to the 14th of July

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-eu-vaccines/eus-breton-eu-has-absolutely-no-need-for-sputnik-v-vaccine-idUSKBN2BD0QI

“Today, we clearly have the capacity to deliver 300 to 350 million doses by the end of June and therefore by July 14 (...) we have the possibility of reaching continent-wide immunity,” he said.

Tony holohan on the 14th of July

'still cause for concern' 'new variants' 'hospitalization rates' 'cautious approach' 'conservative reopening' and every other cliche you can think of

showpony1

769 new cases - efforts will have to be redoubled on April 5th for the foreseeable.

ypres5

RobitTV wrote: »

When can we mark the date for the next movement of the goalpost? August? September?

I think ireland will be the first country to send a set of goalposts into space by the time august rolls around

RobitTV

Substantial protests and violence tonight in Bristol over plans to give police more powers to deal with protests. Main police station was attacked and windows smashed, and police cars and vans were set on fire. Some officers have broken arms and ribs.

Mass gatherings / protests are currently banned under the coronavirus legislation.

alexonhisown

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Eh, they literally said they avoid people

A positive test won’t magically prevent transmission

In fact travelling to get tested is increasing risk of transmission

You need to have a test though to either give to work to get paid or to get sick benefit. And workplaces need to know if you are out with covid. No wonder cases are rising again if people are advising others to not have a test jyst to make numbers look good.

11521323

showpony1 wrote: »

769 new cases - efforts will have to be redoubled on April 5th for the foreseeable.

Yeah because telling people to try even harder and hold firmer is going to win back over the public. Jesus.

ypres5

RobitTV wrote: »

Substantial protests and violence tonight in Bristol over plans to give police more powers to deal with protests. Main police station was attacked and windows smashed, and police cars and vans were set on fire. Some officers have broken arms and ribs.

Mass gatherings / protests are currently banned under the coronavirus legislation.

that level of violence is unacceptable but the politicians and gardai don't know they're born with how compliant and sedate the people here have been so far

TonyMaloney

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

The UK will be vaccinating dogs to use them up by the time our lot administer it to 1 million people.

Not if tonight's news is true.

RobitTV

Bristol this afternoon and tonight where major violence is occurring over plans to give police more powers to stop protests is continuing

alexonhisown

RobitTV wrote: »

Bristol this afternoon and tonight

Lowlifes. Set the dogs on them

RobitTV

Sky News reporting on Bristol situation

niallo27

Imagine what the protests in the UK would be like if they had our fools in charge, imagine Tony H telling them to try a little harder.

hynesie08

niallo27 wrote: »

Imagine what the protests in the UK would be like if they had our fools in charge, imagine Tony H telling them to try a little harder.

You've no idea what the protests over there are about do you?

Windmill100000

alexonhisown wrote: »

You need to have a test though to either give to work to get paid or to get sick benefit. And workplaces need to know if you are out with covid. No wonder cases are rising again if people are advising others to not have a test jyst to make numbers look good.

And surely most that suspect it want to know, especially if they are in contact with elderly relatives or those with underlying conditions?