Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Ronaldinho

Deusexmachina wrote: »

Majority of country won’t be vaccinated until September, not June - Prof McConkey

The absolute useless bunch of jobs worths. A national emergency and all they can do is spout defeatist, fear mongering, doom laden predictions.
This is what you get with committees made up of the jobs for lifers.
We should be on national strike until this lot is disbanded and Martin and his cronies are booted out.
I want an election now.

I don't disagree but who would you vote in?

What we need is a new party. I'd love to see a party get off the ground with people from private sector. Will never happen for a few reasons though.

It may be worth your while doing a bit more reading and a bit less frothing

“I think the third way out of this is a huge investment into population health and public health and that involves several thousand staff to local break out management teams,” he said.

"I think there's a lot of folks out there who are unemployed and with a few weeks training could do the work.”

He added that if we are still in a lockdown that wouldn’t allow people in Ireland to travel throughout the country, that the domestic tourism industry would be in big trouble.

“Our domestic facing tourist industry just about survived last year in 2020 through people being able to travel throughout Ireland and being able to go to restaurants and bars that serve food,” he said.

“But, if we don’t get things a bit better then our domestic tourist industry will really struggle just to survive.”

No need to be nasty

Penfailed

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Boris is making a laughing stock out of us.

No. He's not. He's only done one thing of note since becoming PM and that's the vaccination program. He's not making a laughing stock out of anyone though.

ypres5

Penfailed wrote: »

No. He's not. He's only done one thing of note since becoming PM and that's the vaccination program. He's not making a laughing stock out of anyone though.

yes he is, the eu are flailing about threatening export bans and don't get me started on the astrazeneca mess. The uk are charting a way out of this while here we're getting vague nothing statements

daydorunrun

Boggles wrote: »

Sweden is not on the 14 day mandatory quarantine list is it?

Doesn’t mean you don’t have to quarantine. It’s still 14 days at home or test after 5 days.

AlekSmart

RobitTV wrote: »

This. This. This.

Every single show is the same lately.

https://twitter.com/EilisOHanIon/status/1374033724401188867

Oh Jesú...don't say she's going to run with the Easter Bunny clip....?

https://twitter.com/GerryAdamsSF/status/1373260624663359494

I genuinely thought this was a send-up...a lá Dermot Morgan ...I was waiting for Gerry to produce a Milk Choc Hand Grenade from the bag....or better still a Chocolate ORANGE ....Boom Boom !!!

Penfailed

Penfailed wrote: »

No. He's not. He's only done one thing of note since becoming PM and that's the vaccination program. He's not making a laughing stock out of anyone though.

This constant insecurity shown by some about being laughed at suggests there may be some deep seated childhood trauma. Combined with the penchant for petty infantile name calling it suggests it may be related to something that happened in school.

Possibly related to making a show of themselves in class based on failure to grasp simple concepts. The continued insistence that absolute worst case predictions (never is mid case or base case quoted) based on no action being taken, not having actually occurred following massive actions being taken as evidence that those making the predictions didn’t have a clue, really suggests a remedial grasp of logic.

ypres5

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This constant insecurity shown by some about being laughed at suggests there may be some deep seated childhood trauma. Combined with the penchant for petty infantile name calling it suggests it may be related to something that happened in school.

Possibly related to making a show of themselves in class based on failure to grasp simple concepts. The continued insistence that absolute worst case predictions (never is mid case or base case quoted) based on no action being taken, not having actually occurred following massive actions being taken as evidence that those making the predictions didn’t have a clue, really suggests a remedial grasp of logic.

watch out lads sigmund freud is here to perform psychoanalysis via internet forum and he brought his thesaurus with him

Corholio

It seems an idea floated for the restrictions is for being able to meet 1 other household outdoors while exercising and there being no actual distance limit i.e 5k limit scrapped.

Silentcorner

What's a class based failure to grasp simple concepts?

Is it something to do with the schools opening back up?

copeyhagen

Corholio wrote: »

It seems an idea floated for the restrictions is for being able to meet 1 other household outdoors while exercising and there being no actual distance limit i.e 5k limit scrapped.

everyones emeting people now regardless and nobody is really sticking to the 5km bullsh1t.

was in st annes yesterday with the kids, never seen it so busy, like the middle of a july scorcher.

KanyeSouthEast

Meeting one other household? I’d say most people aren’t even aware of this rule much less following it. Does MM or NPHET ever stop to have a look around at what’s happening in the real world. Martin always struck me as a normal enough fella whatever his political career surely to God someone in his family has had a word with him about the state of the country, it’s economy, it’s mental health etc.

Deusexmachina

Penfailed wrote: »

No. He's not. He's only done one thing of note since becoming PM and that's the vaccination program. He's not making a laughing stock out of anyone though.

That’s like saying Churchill only managed WW2. The vaccination programme is a matter of life and death - and economic survival. It is the single most important issue in 60 years

ypres5

Deusexmachina wrote: »

That’s like saying Churchill only managed WW2. The vaccination programme is a matter of life and death - and economic survival. It is the single most important issue in 60 years

870k people vaccinated in a single day? Completed it mate

Deusexmachina

ypres5 wrote: »

870k people vaccinated in a single day? Completed it mate

Yes a brilliant performance to be fair. And all done with a positive spirit and lots of energy and innovative thinking.
The contrast is stark.

normanoffside

A UN report says that while there were 186,000 Covid Deaths in South Asia, there was also 228,000 deaths of Children under 5 because of Covid Restrictions.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56425115

retro:electro

normanoffside wrote: »

A UN report says that while there were 186,000 Covid Deaths in South Asia, there was also 228,000 deaths of Children under 5 because of Covid Restrictions.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56425115

Jesus

Neagra

two men i greatly admire, Thomas Sowell and George Orwell, said this about politicians/politics many years ago and it still stands true today.

"No one will really understand politics until they understand that politicians are not trying to solve our problems. They are trying to solve their own problems -- of which getting elected and re-elected are No. 1 and No. 2. Whatever is No. 3 is far behind".

Thomas Sowell, Economist

“In our age there is no such thing as ‘keeping out of politics.’ All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia."

George Orwell, Genius

Stop waiting for someone else to give you permission to live your lives, you don't need it.
In the words of the great man himself
"You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself in any direction you choose." - Dr Seuss.

bb1234567

Del Griffith wrote: »

Reads very strange, I mean it doesn't mention anything about covid19.

Googling it implies its a measure to prevent serious overcrowding as the place is so packed with tourists for spring break that they're worried about crushes and riots, not the virus.

Yeh you're right, mad scenes!
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1374071492552486914

muddypuppy

Corholio wrote: »

It seems an idea floated for the restrictions is for being able to meet 1 other household outdoors while exercising and there being no actual distance limit i.e 5k limit scrapped.

You can already meet another household outside while exercising, so the only change in that case would be the 5k limit.

Gael23

This mentions that 20000 construction wpthers would still be unemployed. Who are they?
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.rte.ie/amp/1205142/

Corholio

muddypuppy wrote: »

You can already meet another household outside while exercising, so the only change in that case would be the 5k limit.

Thats what I said, no limit (although probably will be) to meeting the other household.

LameBeaver

Deleted User wrote: »

This constant insecurity shown by some about being laughed at suggests there may be some deep seated childhood trauma. Combined with the penchant for petty infantile name calling it suggests it may be related to something that happened in school.

Possibly related to making a show of themselves in class based on failure to grasp simple concepts. The continued insistence that absolute worst case predictions (never is mid case or base case quoted) based on no action being taken, not having actually occurred following massive actions being taken as evidence that those making the predictions didn’t have a clue, really suggests a remedial grasp of logic.

Looks like your extremely well articulated point has been proven yet again. Well done.:cool:

ypres5 wrote: »

watch out lads sigmund freud is here to perform psychoanalysis via internet forum and he brought his thesaurus with him

ypres5

LameBeaver wrote: »

Looks like your extremely well articulated point has been proven yet again. Well done.:cool:

never realized word salad mixed with every pop psychology cliche in the book constituted a well articulated point but I suppose it has some appeal to the easily impressed. The only thing missing from the verbal effluvia was accusations of daddy issues or an oedipus complex.

i would suggest to anyone who gets so invested in an online forum as to write a psychological analysis of the people taking part to take a break and maybe go for a walk

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

This constant insecurity shown by some about being laughed at suggests there may be some deep seated childhood trauma. Combined with the penchant for petty infantile name calling it suggests it may be related to something that happened in school.

Possibly related to making a show of themselves in class based on failure to grasp simple concepts. The continued insistence that absolute worst case predictions (never is mid case or base case quoted) based on no action being taken, not having actually occurred following massive actions being taken as evidence that those making the predictions didn’t have a clue, really suggests a remedial grasp of logic.

Of course, anyone with half a wit and a modicum of linguistic competence would understand that the term "laughingstock" can colloquially mean simply that one is being made to look ridiculous through incompetence. It is neither unusual nor pathological to dislike oneself, one's team, or one's country to be seen as incompetent.

The "worst-case scenario" is always the scenario used since it was the basis on which the country was plunged into its current state of doctrinaire dictatorship, and fear of that scenario is what keeps many compliant. Were the government or the media to address the looming elephant in the room and apprise the public of the human and economic cost of these lockdowns, that might rapidly change.

As a matter of interest, the gelotophobia you mistakenly diagnosed is not uncommon. Up to 80% of people fear being laughed at, and yet more again dislike being laughed at when it actually happens. Perhaps some fall outside of the majority there. It would explain why they don't seem to mind continually making such absolute arses of themselves.

gozunda

darconio wrote: »

We locked down the whole country indefinitely to protect a small percentage of the population.
Now that this small percentage is getting vaccinated we are still forced into a lockdown that, according to the expert, is not even enough.
Next step is curfew and martial law.
Could anybody explain me what's the logic behind this nonsense?

We didn't. Restrictions were imposed to keep the infection rate down so that our health services would be able to cope in dealing and treating with those with covid who required hospital care and / or or icu admission.

And of those admissions approx 50% were under 65 years of age.

Currently we have approx half a million of those deemed vulnerable vaccinated with one jab only. A smaller percentage with both and a significant cohort of older people and those who are younger but medically vulnerable yet to receive their first shot.

Even the UK who are way ahead of us in the number of vaccinations haven't opened up as of yet.

No idea where you're getting the 'curfew and martial law" stuff tbh unless its the conspiracy forum?

Sharpyshoot

I missed M Martin in Clare Byrne live last night. Did he divulge any derestrictions at all?

Penfailed

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Or many of the golfclubs in Ireland will have been liquidated by then

People need to realise many of these businesses in Ireland have weeks left not months

How many golf clubs will be liquidated in weeks?

Penfailed

Hector Savage wrote: »

actually this will be one article the usual cohort of Lockdown Larrys and Bunker Bernies in here will be **** over ...

It was posted previously. It didn't really garner much response either way.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Of course, anyone with half a wit and a modicum of linguistic competence would understand that the term "laughingstock" can colloquially mean simply that one is being made to look ridiculous through incompetence. It is neither unusual nor pathological to dislike oneself, one's team, or one's country to be seen as incompetent.

The "worst-case scenario" is always the scenario used since it was the basis on which the country was plunged into its current state of doctrinaire dictatorship, and fear of that scenario is what keeps many compliant. Were the government or the media to address the looming elephant in the room and apprise the public of the human and economic cost of these lockdowns, that might rapidly change.

As a matter of interest, the gelotophobia you mistakenly diagnosed is not uncommon. Up to 80% of people fear being laughed at, and yet more again dislike being laughed at when it actually happens. Perhaps some fall outside of the majority there. It would explain why they don't seem to mind continually making such absolute arses of themselves.

No it wasn’t.

The 30k scenario with access to icu even for the under 70’s being rationed is what we were looking to avoid.