Will the Rovers ever Return? Your pub megathread, Part 2 - threadbans in OP

PTH2009

To me this won't be over till I'm sitting in an indoor pub enjoying a pint and not looking at the clock

hynesie08

DessieJames wrote: »

not really, you'll have to book well in advance and the chances are with limited outdor seating in most beer gardens you wont even get anywhere, by that time the UK will have indoor seating, we're a laughing stock.

Weren't you saying that was the case in England already?

So we're a laughing stock for opening in the same way as the UK, with the same gap between outdoors and in as the UK, at roughly the same rate of vaccinations as the UK had when they announced their road map?

NIAC Fanboy

DessieJames wrote: »

not really, you'll have to book well in advance and the chances are with limited outdor seating in most beer gardens you wont even get anywhere, by that time the UK will have indoor seating, we're a laughing stock.

Agreed. Considering the take away pints are ramping up massively there might as well be outdoor drinking with controls in place.

Pure and utter nonsense.

May 24th would have been a perfectly good date to pick, instead June 7 means the bank holiday and the following week are closed.

hynesie08

PTH2009 wrote: »

To me this won't be over till I'm sitting in an indoor pub enjoying a pint and not looking at the clock

Jesus, it must be horrible living in that blackness, couldn't be me.

PTH2009

hynesie08 wrote: »

Jesus, it must be horrible living in that blackness, couldn't be me.

So where you live you can easily walk up to an outdoor place anytime of the day/night and have a few pints. Must be some massive outdoor areas

NIAC Fanboy

hynesie08 wrote: »

Weren't you saying that was the case in England already?

So we're a laughing stock for opening in the same way as the UK, with the same gap between outdoors and in as the UK, at roughly the same rate of vaccinations as the UK had when they announced their road map?

The weather is much better now.

Our cases numbers per 100000 are a lot lower than when the UK started their mass vaccinating.

We also have the advantage of knowing that reopening the UK outdoors did not cause a significant spike.

We have widespread public drinking now with no controls.

So, yes, we are a laughing stock.

Not surprising considering our government could never explain or justify their braindead €9 meal rule.

hynesie08

PTH2009 wrote: »

So where you live you can easily walk up to an outdoor place anytime of the day/night and have a few pints. Must be some massive outdoor areas

Not anytime no, only during opening hours.

Coillte_Bhoy

PTH2009 wrote: »

To me this won't be over till I'm sitting in an indoor pub enjoying a pint and not looking at the clock

For me it will be when i have a look in here and not see you moaning day after day and asking the same bloody question about the infamous €9 meals

DessieJames

NPHET /FFG making out they are doing the public a favour, a day of hope he says, fcuk right off Varadakar you dispicable vile man, lockdowns have done far far more damage to the country than this virus ever will that is beyond any doubt, the aviation and tourist industrys are on their knees and it'll take years for them to recover, the hospitality industry is the same amongst others, thousands of people have lost jobs for good, some who have never been out of work in their life,peoples mental health is in a bad bad way after 14 months of harsh lockdowns, and these cnunts thinking they are doing us a favour by dangling a carrot and loosening some restrictions,the UK will be completely back to normal in June and we'll still have to be making bookings for cramped beer gardens and it'll probably rain knowing the weather here.

We are the absolute laughing stock of Europe, with over zealous lockdown fanatics like NPHET effectively calling the shots,and the worst government in the history of this country.

hynesie08

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

The weather is much better now.

Perfect for outdoor drinking

Our cases numbers per 100000 are a lot lower than when the UK started their mass vaccinating.

We also have the advantage of knowing that reopening the UK outdoors did not cause a significant spike.

So, the uk have shown a safe way to reopen outdoors, we should probably follow that.

We have widespread public drinking now with no controls

So, like every time the sun shines.

So, yes, we are a laughing stock.

We're not, the majority of the planet couldn't give a **** about us

Not surprising considering our government could never explain or justify their braindead €9 meal rule.

The rule was fairly easy to understand, if pubs wanted to open they had to operate as Restaraunts, I didn't agree with it, but I understood it.

jakiah

DessieJames wrote: »

NPHET /FFG making out they are doing the public a favour, a day of hope he says, fcuk right off Varadakar you dispicable vile man, lockdowns have done far far more damage to the country than this virus ever will that is beyond any doubt, the aviation and tourist industrys are on their knees and it'll take years for them to recover, the hospitality industry is the same amongst others, thousands of people have lost jobs for good, some who have never been out of work in their life,peoples mental health is in a bad bad way after 14 months of harsh lockdowns, and these cnunts thinking they are doing us a favour by dangling a carrot and loosening some restrictions,the UK will be completely back to normal in June and we'll still have to be making bookings for cramped beer gardens and it'll probably rain knowing the weather here.

We are the absolute laughing stock of Europe, with over zealous lockdown fanatics like NPHET effectively calling the shots,and the worst government in the history of this country.

Christ, do you miserable whinging types never get sick of listening to yourselves?

DessieJames

hynesie08 wrote: »

Weren't you saying that was the case in England already?

So we're a laughing stock for opening in the same way as the UK, with the same gap between outdoors and in as the UK, at roughly the same rate of vaccinations as the UK had when they announced their road map?

the difference is the UK have a proper workable roadmap which they fully intend to stick to without any changes, we dont, hence why we are a laughing stock, for example lets do away with the €9 covid meal eh, last year they were adamant it had to stay, beggars belief which "medical professional" ever came up with something so ludricious in the first place, levels 1,2,3,4,5, was there ever a level 1 or 2, we went from level 3 to level 3 and a bit, 3 and a bit to 4 and a bit then 5 then they didnt seem to bother with "levels" anymore,you couldnt make it up the amount of complete and utter fcuk ups of epic proportion they have presided over.

Listen mate if you cant see how much FFG are an absolute laughing stock then i fear the worst for you, making it up as they go along.

Coillte_Bhoy

jakiah wrote: »

Christ, do you miserable whinging types never get sick of listening to yourselves?

The irony is that as we begin to open up they wont have anything to complain and rant about, its like a lockdown fetish in reverse.

DessieJames

jakiah wrote: »

Christ, do you miserable whinging types never get sick of listening to yourselves?

do you pro government shills ever get sick believing the scaremongering and garbage you are told :rolleyes:

unlike your type of you i tell it as it is, you probably believe everything they tell you as being gospel.

Coillte_Bhoy

DessieJames wrote: »

do you pro government shills ever get sick believing the scaremongering and garbage you are told :rolleyes:

unlike the likies of you i tell it as it is.

You tell it like you think it is Dessie, as you think it is

hynesie08

DessieJames wrote: »

do you pro government shills ever get sick believing the scaremongering and garbage you are told :rolleyes:

unlike the likies of you i tell it as it is.

I tell it as it is = I spout whatever comes into my head without rhyme or reason.

DessieJames

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

The irony is that as we begin to open up they wont have anything to complain and rant about, its like a lockdown fetish in reverse.

you really think that people can forget the untold misery they have subjected the public to since last year, wait until election time, that alone will tell you all you need to know.

DessieJames

hynesie08 wrote: »

I tell it as it is = I spout whatever comes into my head without rhyme or reason.

do you yeah, maybe take a step back and use your brain a bit more mate.

hynesie08

DessieJames wrote: »

you really think that people can forget the untold misery they have subjected the public to since last year, wait until election time, that alone will tell you all you need to know.

It will yeah, you'll have years of ammunition when fine gael piss their way to a majority government.

DessieJames

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

You tell it like you think it is Dessie, as you think it is

no i dont like to think anything, the vast majority of people have absolutely no respect for the government whatsover, mind you the ones what do are usually on these type of forums.

hynesie08

DessieJames wrote: »

no i dont like to think anything, the vast majority of people have absolutely no respect for the government whatsover, mind you the ones what do are usually on these type of forums.

Give it a try, you might be surprised.

DessieJames

hynesie08 wrote: »

It will yeah, you'll have years of ammunition when fine gael piss their way to a majority government.

:D

dream on you madman, that's never ever going to happen in the next election, id be willing to put my house on it.

DessieJames

hynesie08 wrote: »

Give it a try, you might be surprised.

jaysus :rolleyes:

jakiah

DessieJames wrote: »

you really think that people can forget the untold misery they have subjected the public to since last year, wait until election time, that alone will tell you all you need to know.

Listening to the likes of you didnt exactly lighten the mood. Moan, whinge, complain through the whole pandemic. You are like a child, grow up.

Coillte_Bhoy

DessieJames wrote: »

you really think that people can forget the untold misery they have subjected the public to since last year, wait until election time, that alone will tell you all you need to know.

So, what will the next election tell us then? Currently i see little or no major shift away from the main parties but maybe im missing something, please do enlighten me?

hynesie08

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

So, what will the next election tell us then? Currently i see little or no major shift away from the main parties but maybe im missing something, please do enlighten me?

People apparently won't vote for ffg because of lockdown, but will vote for sf who *checks notes* wanted a harsher lockdown.

DessieJames

jakiah wrote: »

Listening to the likes of you didnt exactly lighten the mood. Moan, whinge, complain through the whole pandemic. You are like a child, grow up.

have you lost your job because of this, are you struggling to pay bills and put food on the table, has your health suffered because of this. and you think i should put up and shut up, people like you are every much as part of the problem, just put up with it and say nothing and call other peoople a "child" because they voice their opinion.,

Jaysus im glad i dont come into contact with many like you.

DessieJames

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

So, what will the next election tell us then? Currently i see little or no major shift away from the main parties but maybe im missing something, please do enlighten me?

maybe look a bit deeper, the level of anger with this government is palpable and isnt something ive ever seen in my life, polls cant always be believed, but the ones ive seen SF are nearly always near the top, so you think what you like,you'll be in for a surpriose come election time,in fact ill bookmark this thread and revisit it after the election.

Coillte_Bhoy

DessieJames wrote: »

no i dont like to think anything, the vast majority of people have absolutely no respect for the government whatsover, mind you the ones what do are usually on these type of forums.

Well it depends how you quantify that i suppose. So therefore impossible to comment on really, stage that this 'vast majority' isnt evident in opinon polls and the anti govt vote is dominated by SF who have broadly supported the govt during this crisis. The 6/7& support of the far left parties actually wanted stricter lockdowns so who exactly are this great majority?

hynesie08

DessieJames wrote: »

maybe look a bit deeper, the level of anger with this government is palpable and isnt something ive ever seen in my life, polls cant always be believed, but the ones ive seen SF are nearly always near the top, so you think what you like,you'll be in for a surpriose come election time,in fact ill bookmark this thread and revisit it after the election.

You know the next election is not for 4 years right?

Coillte_Bhoy

DessieJames wrote: »

maybe look a bit deeper, the level of anger with this government is palpable and isnt something ive ever seen in my life, polls cant always be believed, but the ones ive seen SF are nearly always near the top, so you think what you like,you'll be in for a surpriose come election time,in fact ill bookmark this thread and revisit it after the election.

Oh ya im not doubting SF will do well and could well be the biggest party but why would the 'vast majority' support them when they largely backed the govt for their handling of the crisis? And even so their support is only up 5 or 6 points, its significant but hardly earth shattering
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NIAC Fanboy

hynesie08 wrote: »

So, the uk have shown a safe way to reopen outdoors, we should probably follow that.

Agreed, like from May 24th, no need to drag the arse out of it.

hynesie08 wrote: »

The rule was fairly easy to understand, if pubs wanted to open they had to operate as Restaraunts, I didn't agree with it, but I understood it.

Yes we all understood the pay €9 for a bit of pizza and drink your head off in the pub bit.


But the government have never explained why it was introduced for pubs at all.

To add insult to injury they doubled down on it at Christmas.

Coillte_Bhoy

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

Agreed, like from May 24th, no need to drag the arse out of it.




Yes we all understood the pay €9 for a bit of pizza and drink your head off in the pub bit.


But the government have never explained why it was introduced for pubs at all.

To add insult to injury they doubled down on it at Christmas.

it has been explained ad nasuem on here for the past year ffs, what is it about ye lot and this issue in particular?

DessieJames

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Well it depends how you quantify that i suppose. So therefore impossible to comment on really, stage that this 'vast majority' isnt evident in opinon polls and the anti govt vote is dominated by SF who have broadly supported the govt during this crisis. The 6/7& support of the far left parties actually wanted stricter lockdowns so who exactly are this great majority?

I've little time for the far left and their zero covid lunacy.

SF have hardly supported the government, they have called them out on countless things, only for the visus they wouldnt even be in government by this stage.

SF would have romped home with a majority had they fielded more candidates the last time, they wont make that mistake again.

I'm far from SF's biggest supporter, but after a century of almost constant FG/FF rule this country badly needs radical change, so im happy enoigh for SF to be given a chance,they really cannot do any worse.

DessieJames

hynesie08 wrote: »

You know the next election is not for 4 years right?

do you really think it will be that long, id bet as soon as this madness is over there will be an election, next year probably.

hynesie08

DessieJames wrote: »

do you really think it will be that long, id bet as soon as this madness is over there will be an election, next year probably.

Called by who?

Coillte_Bhoy

DessieJames wrote: »

I've little time for the far left and their zero covid lunacy.

SF have hardly supported the government, they have called them out on countless things, only for the visus they wouldnt even be in government by this stage.

SF would have romped home with a majority had they fielded more candidates the last time, they wont make that mistake again.

I'm far from SF's biggest supporter, but after a century of almost constant FG/FF rule this country badly needs radical change, so im happy enoigh for SF to be given a chance,they really cannot do any worse.

But they have largely supported the govt on the handling of the pandemic, they certainly havent been raging their decisions like you have. I dont doubt there is significant anti govt anger out there but it doenst make much sense to me to see SF picking that support up/

NIAC Fanboy

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

it has been explained ad nasuem on here for the past year ffs, what is it about ye lot and this issue in particular?

I've, genuinely, never seen it explained, care to enlighten me?

DessieJames

I'd say Holohan isnt a happy man, he loves a good lockdown and probably advised level 5 until June,i think FFG in this instance have actually seen that the majority of people arent bothering with these restritions anymore as in staying in your own county, not meeting family or friends and having been in the airport to take a flight in the last few weeks it was much busier than what ive seen since before this started so people are flying again and this is all great to see, so they've seen all of this and the level of anger and had to react and loosen more restrictions than what NPHET suggested, id be anything this is what is the case.

DessieJames

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

But they have largely supported the govt on the handling of the pandemic, they certainly havent been raging their decisions like you have. I dont doubt there is significant anti govt anger out there but it doenst make much sense to me to see SF picking that support up/

i agree in some instances they have which some people werent particulary happy about, but in most cases they have called them out and highlighted many issues where they have in effect completely fcuked it up.

DessieJames

hynesie08 wrote: »

Called by who?

let me get my crystal ball and see if i can find out.

next weeks lottery numbers while im at it.

Coillte_Bhoy

DessieJames wrote: »

i agree in some instances they have which some people werent particulary happy about, but in most cases they have called them out and highlighted many issues where they have in effect completely fcuked it up.

Minor quibbles about details, by and large they have backed the govt on the big issues. What have the actually proposed that differed substantially from the Govt?

Coillte_Bhoy

DessieJames wrote: »

I'd say Holohan isnt a happy man, he loves a good lockdown and probably advised level 5 until June,i think FFG in this instance have actually seen that the majority of people arent bothering with these restritions anymore as in staying in your own county, not meeting family or friends and having been in the airport to take a flight in the last few weeks it was much busier than what ive seen since before this started so people are flying again and this is all great to see, so they've seen all of this and the level of anger and had to react and loosen more restrictions than what NPHET suggested, id be anything this is what is the case.

So you are saying the Govt are not following NPHETS advice in this instance?

MOR316

hynesie08 wrote: »

People apparently won't vote for ffg because of lockdown, but will vote for sf who *checks notes* wanted a harsher lockdown.

FWIW...The people voted FF back in after everything that happened.

SF probably will be voted in next time around but, won't be long until FF or whoever are back

opinionated3

Apologies if this has been asked already but do we know yet when we can actually go in to a pub for a few pints, rather than having to sit outside?
My local only has a footpath and car spaces at its front door, so I'm assuming they can't open

MOR316

opinionated3 wrote: »

Apologies if this has been asked already but do we know yet when we can actually go in to a pub for a few pints, rather than having to sit outside?
My local only has a footpath and car spaces at its front door, so I'm assuming they can't open

Nah not yet unfortunately.

hynesie08

opinionated3 wrote: »

Apologies if this has been asked already but do we know yet when we can actually go in to a pub for a few pints, rather than having to sit outside?
My local only has a footpath and car spaces at its front door, so I'm assuming they can't open

July is what we have so far, the leaks said the 5th but MM refused to give dates for July.

Itssoeasy

opinionated3 wrote: »

Apologies if this has been asked already but do we know yet when we can actually go in to a pub for a few pints, rather than having to sit outside?
My local only has a footpath and car spaces at its front door, so I'm assuming they can't open

No we don’t.

opinionated3

opinionated3 wrote: »

Apologies if this has been asked already but do we know yet when we can actually go in to a pub for a few pints, rather than having to sit outside?
My local only has a footpath and car spaces at its front door, so I'm assuming they can't open

And this is the key question. The answer to be blunt is no. In the rush for people to fall over themselves praising MM, the government have completely sidestepped this issue. There are some nebulous rumours about July, this will inevitably get pushed back to August and beyond. I know three publicans in my home town who cannot reopen for months because they don't have outdoor beer gardens, two of them are on the verge of going under with rates putting them in considerable debt. Some mickey mouse stipend from the government isn't going to patch up that financial hole, they have been abandoned by our esteemed leaders.

Zebra3

DessieJames wrote: »

do you really think it will be that long, id bet as soon as this madness is over there will be an election, next year probably.

Unless something GUBU happens, there won't be a GE until the Dáil runs its' course.

FF TDs would be seriously worried about losing their seats and Leaky will be taking over from Mehole halfway through the term so FG have no incentive to collapse the Dáil. Greens will see it out to get whatever they can of their policies passed.