Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

TheMilkyPirate

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Has it not been just one continuous wave ?

Stopping and starting due to lockdowns

My thinking as well

Eod100

Looks like European Commission going to announce some form of export ban. Likely on AZ vaccines. https://twitter.com/DaveKeating/status/1374662340877164548?s=19

Listening to Coveney on Newstalk. The difference in professionalism and clarity between him and Donnelly in answering the same questions is really remarkable

Azatadine

Yeah, Coveney always comes across as one of our most able politicians.

stephenjmcd

Eod100 wrote: »

Looks like European Commission going to announce some form of export ban. Likely on AZ vaccines. https://twitter.com/DaveKeating/status/1374662340877164548?s=19

Posted in the vaccine thread this morning, there seems to be a big misunderstanding as to what is actually being proposed.

Its not an export ban, it widens the scope of what circumstances allow an export to be blocked by a member state. So far only 1 export has been blocked.

https://www.politico.eu/article/commission-to-table-tougher-vaccine-export-rules/

Wolf359f

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Posted in the vaccine thread this morning, there seems to be a big misunderstanding as to what is actually being proposed.

Its not an export ban, it widens the scope of what circumstances allow an export to be blocked by a member state. So far only 1 export has been blocked.

https://www.politico.eu/article/commission-to-table-tougher-vaccine-export-rules/

So one EU export of 250k blocked to Australia, who have covid under control, meanwhile India blocked 5mil doses to the UK, who have a higher vaccination rate than India.
EU is bad and India is good.

Eod100

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Posted in the vaccine thread this morning, there seems to be a big misunderstanding as to what is actually being proposed.

Its not an export ban, it widens the scope of what circumstances allow an export to be blocked by a member state. So far only 1 export has been blocked.

https://www.politico.eu/article/commission-to-table-tougher-vaccine-export-rules/

Hadn't seen the technicalities, cheers for that. Seems like a warning shot so at this stage.

thelad95

Stephen Donnelly and Norma Foley must be the two most ineffectual ministers this country has ever had. They were handed the biggest poisoned chalices in the history of the state so I really don't envy them and I'm generally not of the "damn guberment disposition" but the way they've mucked up multiple decisions while their overall communication with the public is atrocious is genuinely baffling.

Simon Harris (failed journalism student turned career politician) had way more class and finesse as a politician in his little finger than these two do together. And he said there were 18 previous Covids......

Norma Foley patronising the public by saying schools were safe at a time when transmission was happening to the tune of five figures a day. No idea how to deal with the public or even gauge the mood of the public.

Vicxas

thelad95 wrote: »

Stephen Donnelly and Norma Foley must be the two most ineffectual ministers this country has ever had. They were handed the biggest poisoned chalices in the history of the state so I really don't envy them and I'm generally not of the "damn guberment disposition" but the way they've mucked up multiple decisions while their overall communication with the public is atrocious is genuinely baffling.

Simon Harris (failed journalism student turned career politician) had way more class and finesse as a politician in his little finger than these two do together. And he said there were 18 previous Covids......

I felt like what came from Simon Harris' mouth, you'd actually believe. With Stephen Donnelly i feel like he doesn't believe or know what he's on about.

retro:electro

Simon was genuine. He might not have been great in the role but he cared about it and he cared about the public. Stephen is arrogant and cares about nobody only himself

JP Liz V1

Azatadine wrote: »

Yeah, Coveney always comes across as one of our most able politicians.

A allie for Keelings and Goodman's meat plants too

titan18

retro:electro wrote: »

Simon was genuine. He might not have been great in the role but he cared about it and he cared about the public. Stephen is arrogant and cares about nobody only himself

Ya, one of the better things Harris did in lockdown 1 was the twitter videos, and he'd be reading out kids letters. It came across as genuine and made him look human. I don't particularly think he's a good politician but that was a nice touch I thought back then.

iamwhoiam

retro:electro wrote: »

Simon was genuine. He might not have been great in the role but he cared about it and he cared about the public. Stephen is arrogant and cares about nobody only himself

I really liked it when Simon spoke directly to children and acknowledged their worries and talked to them .No one else has ever done that and meant it

retro:electro

titan18 wrote: »

Ya, one of the better things Harris did in lockdown 1 was the twitter videos, and he'd be reading out kids letters. It came across as genuine and made him look human. I don't particularly think he's a good politician but that was a nice touch I thought back then.

He still does those on Instagram. He does live videos most evenings to check in with people and ask how they are. He’s a good person.

JP Liz V1

retro:electro wrote: »

Simon was genuine. He might not have been great in the role but he cared about it and he cared about the public. Stephen is arrogant and cares about nobody only himself

I did feel somewhat more confident when Simon and Leo spoke about it than Stephen and Micheal now, Stephen Donnelly is way out of his league, Micheal was too eager to be Taoiseach he just jumped in unprepared

Normal One

Donnolly is a spoofer. Listening to Coveney there on the radio, he's calm and assured but you can tell that if he doesn't know something, he won't bull**** you like the other fella does. He's probably biding his time, knowing that he'll be the Taoiseach soon enough whereas Donnolly is winging his way towards the magic pension pot.

zuutroy

Can't believe people buy the schmaltz from Harris. So contrived.

titan18

blowitupref wrote: »

Hospital numbers as of 8pm

In Hospital 325 (decrease of 17)
In ICU 76 (decrease 4)

1 death in hospital the last 24hrs

Last Tuesday
In hospital 349
ICU 85

Gone back up to 357 as of 8am this morning.

Confirmed cases - 357
Total new confirmed cases - 25
Discharges - 35

No idea how with those numbers.

retro:electro

zuutroy wrote: »

Can't believe people buy the schmaltz from Harris. So contrived.

Even if it is schmaltz, he is better at at least trying to connect with people. To hold a position like Minister for Health you need to at least have the ability to even pretend to care about people. I don’t think Stephen has an empathetic bone in his body. He’s in it for what he can get out of it, not what he can give. I’m surprise he hasn’t spontaneously combust yet out of sheer pent up aggression

Normal One

titan18 wrote: »

Gone back up to 357 as of 8am this morning.

Confirmed cases - 357
Total new confirmed cases - 25
Discharges - 35

No idea how with those numbers.

Is that from the Covid tracker app? I don't think that gets updated as regularly as it should, they were the 8am yesterday figures as far as I remember. The ICU number seems to change several times a day.

MerlinSouthDub

titan18 wrote: »

Gone back up to 357 as of 8am this morning.

Confirmed cases - 357
Total new confirmed cases - 25
Discharges - 35

No idea how with those numbers.

This morning's update hasn't happened yet, that's yesterday's number. They have been late with updates this week, for some reason.

JP Liz V1

titan18 wrote: »

Gone back up to 357 as of 8am this morning.

Confirmed cases - 357
Total new confirmed cases - 25
Discharges - 35

No idea how with those numbers.

Lucas Hood

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1374686873931632640?s=20

Five walk-in test centres to open tomorrow.

Tallaght Stadium
Irishtown Stadium
Blanchardstown Centre - Mr Price Carpark.
Grangegorman Primary Car Park
Spollens Car Park, Tullamore

Open to people within 5km of the centre.

Thats good.

titan18

Normal One wrote: »

Is that from the Covid tracker app? I don't think that gets updated as regularly as it should, they were the 8am yesterday figures as far as I remember. The ICU number seems to change several times a day.

The geohive one. It says last updated today and 8am on the graph for hospital cases.

Journal reported it too

JP Liz V1

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I did feel somewhat more confident when Simon and Leo spoke about it than Stephen and Micheal now, Stephen Donnelly is way out of his league, Micheal was too eager to be Taoiseach he just jumped in unprepared

are you serious?? he said the houses in Ballymun would be done for about 11--130K.at the end they cost 230K and it never went to tender if I recall.
He's a teflon suited spoofer in the waiting.

muddypuppy

Lucas Hood wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1374686873931632640?s=20




Thats good.

This was surprisingly quick.

MerlinSouthDub

retro:electro wrote: »

Simon was genuine. He might not have been great in the role but he cared about it and he cared about the public. Stephen is arrogant and cares about nobody only himself

You are reading a hell of a lot into how these people come across on media interviews. Arrogant people are perfectly capable of coming across as genuine, and vice versa.

You don't know either of these people, and have no idea what motivates them.

Jinglejangle69

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

You are reading a hell of a lot into how these people come across on media interviews. Arrogant people are perfectly capable of coming across as genuine, and vice versa.

You don't know either of these people, and have no idea what motivates them.

Neither do you.

We can only judge on what we see.

MerlinSouthDub

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Neither do you.

We can only judge on what we see.

Neither do I, you are right. I try to judge people by what they do, rather than how they come across.

Jinglejangle69

I see Ciara Kelly put it up to Sam Mconkey today when he was waffling on about long covid.

Michael McDowell on Niall Boylan now talking sense.

Jinglejangle69

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Neither do I, you are right. I try to judge people by what they do, rather than how they come across.

And that's what posters here are doing based on what he did during the pandemic.

shouldn't we have had them all along?? with airport restrictions?
they should be vaccination not test centers. That's all window dressing now like most things. This is so they can point and say "look, another surge...lockdown til July"

It's nothing but a dragnet for mild symptoms which will be used to boost figure which will in turn be spun as high amplitude spikes on the graphs, which will in turn constitute further restrictions,

Jinglejangle69

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

I see Ciara Kelly put it up to Sam Mconkey today when he was waffling on about long covid.

Michael McDowell on Niall Boylan now talking sense.

Ciara Kelly has been consistently wrong on almost every aspect of this.

robbiezero

Lucas Hood wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1374686873931632640?s=20




Thats good.

Dammit. My nearest one in Grangegorman is 5.1kms from my home.

:):)

Jinglejangle69

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ciara Kelly has been consistently wrong on almost every aspect of this.

Well Sam said we will have restrictions for years because of long covid.

Ciara said lockdown was about saving lives not stopping long covid.

Do you disagree with her?

robbiezero

Deleted User wrote: »

Ciara Kelly has been consistently wrong on almost every aspect of this.

She had the right guest on so in McConkey.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Ciara Kelly has been consistently wrong on almost every aspect of this.

whether right or wrong to date, she is right on this. Long covid itself is no reason to maintain restrictions

lawred2

robbiezero wrote: »

She had the right guest on so in McConkey.

Can I suggest McDonkey?

iamwhoiam

robbiezero wrote: »

Dammit. My nearest one in Grangegorman is 5.1kms from my home.

:):)

You are 5.1kms from lots of places so ! The beach is 5.1 kms away too😂

11521323

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Neither do I, you are right. I try to judge people by what they do, rather than how they come across.

Even if we use that metric, Donnelly still comes up shorter than Peter Dinklage.

MerlinSouthDub

11521323 wrote: »

Even if we use that metric, Donnelly still comes up shorter than Peter Dinklage.

I didn't say otherwise. This stuff about one guy being arrogant and the other being genuine is nonsense though.

MerlinSouthDub

titan18 wrote: »

The geohive one. It says last updated today and 8am on the graph for hospital cases.

Journal reported it too

The journal is wrong - it says updated to 24th alright, but there is no data point in the chart or in the background data for the 24th. 357 is from yesterday morning. They didn't update this until well in the afternoon yesterday, looks like the same today.

robbiezero

robbiezero wrote: »

Dammit. My nearest one in Grangegorman is 5.1kms from my home.

:):)

Yet another failure to understand what the 5km restriction is for

11521323

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

I didn't say otherwise. This stuff about one guy being arrogant and the other being genuine is nonsense though.

Well a politician should at least be appearing to possess values which the public admire or agree with. That's all he was doing. You're right, nobody knows if he was truly genuine or not but that really doesn't matter in the context of getting the public's respect or buy-in.

covidrelease

Deleted User wrote: »

Yet another failure to understand what the 5km restriction is for

In what way?

CIARAN_BOYLE

Deleted User wrote: »

Yet another failure to understand what the 5km restriction is for

The walk in test centres are for people living within 5km of the test centres.

MerlinSouthDub

GP referral data is out. Not much of a drop from Monday. I'm never sure which data point to look at but "Clinically likely Covid" is up about 50% from same day last week. As others have mentioned, this data is based on a survey, and doesn't tell the whole story. But it is something of a guide. Need to see these numbers stabilise and fall again.

https://tomorrowscare.ie/covid/2021-03-24_COVID_GP_Survey_Results.pdf

robbiezero

iamwhoiam wrote: »

You are 5.1kms from lots of places so ! The beach is 5.1 kms away too��

Not the beach. The nearest point of the high tide, I can actually get to the top of the beach, just not the water.

Just very unlucky.

robbiezero

Deleted User wrote: »

Yet another failure to understand what the 5km restriction is for

What part of

Open to people within 5km of the centre.

do you not understand?

covidrelease

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

GP referral data is out. Not much of a drop from Monday. I'm never sure which data point to look at but "Clinically likely Covid" is up about 50% from same day last week. As others have mentioned, this data is based on a survey, and doesn't tell the whole story. But it is something of a guide. Need to see these numbers stabilise and fall again.

https://tomorrowscare.ie/covid/2021-03-24_COVID_GP_Survey_Results.pdf

You would wonder though, with talk of another wave in Europe, evidence of increased mobility, schools back, Paddy, Cheltenham etc., are GP's erring on the side of caution and sending a few more people for a test, time will tell I suppose.