Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

Asylum15

A family member of mine recently booked a holiday to Lanzarote from Dublin and drove from Cork to Dublin, spent a week there and then returned to Cork. (We are all furious with said person). However, she was not stopped once at a checkpoint either way and did not get a single fine.

Then last week I drove from Cork City to Fermoy to deliver crucial meds to my aunt (diabetic, doesn't drive) and was stopped by a Garda who absolutely smashed the ears off me and handed me a nice fine.

It's this type of stuff makes me wonder.

Strumms

Girlfriend just found out her sister n law just been diagnosed for the second time with covid the dumb fûck.. I say dumb fück as they’ve been having people over....she’s a useless muppet that doesn’t seem to cope unless there is a bunch of humans in front of her to yap at and to yap at her... needy ahole...

The brother is absolutely idolized by my other half , he’s like a second father to her after she lost her dad in a car crash... brilliant guy but the wife is a bit of a flakey fücktard as has been evident in her behavior...

ShineOn7

Asylum15 wrote: »

A family member of mine recently booked a holiday to Lanzarote from Dublin and drove from Cork to Dublin, spent a week there and then returned to Cork. (We are all furious with said person). However, she was not stopped once at a checkpoint either way and did not get a single fine.

What happened the Guards fining people for 500 euro at Dublin airport?

Wolf359f

Asylum15 wrote: »

A family member of mine recently booked a holiday to Lanzarote from Dublin and drove from Cork to Dublin, spent a week there and then returned to Cork. (We are all furious with said person). However, she was not stopped once at a checkpoint either way and did not get a single fine.

Then last week I drove from Cork City to Fermoy to deliver crucial meds to my aunt (diabetic, doesn't drive) and was stopped by a Garda who absolutely smashed the ears off me and handed me a nice fine.

It's this type of stuff makes me wonder.

When you showed the Garda you Aunt's meds, what did he say?
Can he only fine you if you fail to turn around though?

covidrelease

gozunda wrote: »

The only real fear mongering going on is those who claim its all some big conspiracy

I don't consider it a conspiracy, its just being badly managed.

gozunda wrote: »

And the reason numbers are rising are those who think they know better than the experts.

As somebody said earlier, government decide, are they more expert than the rest of us on dealing with a pandemic, Comical Donnelly, Economic crash Martin, you seriously look up to them as experts?

Leaving construction closed is a fail.

Constraining people to 5K is a fail.

Guards harassing people is a fail.

Not allowing a few people sit outside a coffee shop is a fail.

Maybe cases are rising because these "experts" you refer to in government have made a balls of it?

gozunda

Batattackrat wrote: »

Your misinterpreting completely what I implied. I implied your getting scare mongered and your response shows you were.
You might actually want to google scare mongering as don't think you get its proper meaning. You went on a major rant about people breaking restrictions. Not sure how much more i can explain that.

I'm not you know.

This was my comment in reply to a poster who was advocating people meeting up and that people shouldn't bother to get tested and your bizarre reply

gozunda wrote: »

So let me get this right. You forgo the old social distancing and meet up with a load of the mates. Couple days after you start to feel ill and with the nature of this virus - there's a chance you could end needing at least some medical attention.

But ya go fuk it - 'I'm not going to get tested cos I is hard - and if I give it to someone else fek them as well' Wow.

Batattackrat wrote: »

I see the oul scare mongering from the media has gotten to you.

Nope.

No rant there about 'people breaking restrictions". Simply a comment about people who get sick and posters advocating they shouldn't get tested.

And btw this is the definition of "scaremongering".

the spreading of frightening or ominous reports or rumours.

So which "rumours" are you accusing me of exactly?

Maybe a good idea to invest in a good dictionary

JP Liz V1

Asylum15 wrote: »

A family member of mine recently booked a holiday to Lanzarote from Dublin and drove from Cork to Dublin, spent a week there and then returned to Cork. (We are all furious with said person). However, she was not stopped once at a checkpoint either way and did not get a single fine.

Then last week I drove from Cork City to Fermoy to deliver crucial meds to my aunt (diabetic, doesn't drive) and was stopped by a Garda who absolutely smashed the ears off me and handed me a nice fine.

It's this type of stuff makes me wonder.

I would fight that fine if I were you, that is essential travel delivering meds, contact your local TDs and media etc.,

Rebelbrowser

Wolf359f wrote: »

Key workers in group 6 or 10?
Group 6: Obviously those involved in the vaccine program.
Group 10: They include workers in the food supply system, public and commercial transport and other vital services.

It's the Group 12 in that graph, think has since become Group 13, I'm wondering about. They are the last group before the mega 54 to 18 Group.

Strumms

Asylum15 wrote: »

Then last week I drove from Cork City to Fermoy to deliver crucial meds to my aunt (diabetic, doesn't drive) and was stopped by a Garda who absolutely smashed the ears off me and handed me a nice fine.

It's this type of stuff makes me wonder.

Did you have a prescription on you, a copy ? If you did that’s harsh, if not, I’d expect him to fine and read the riot act...

I could drive 10kms for ****s and giggles and get stopped... ‘ just delivering meds ‘ ..

JP Liz V1

Strumms wrote: »

Girlfriend just found out her sister n law just been diagnosed for the second time with covid the dumb fûck.. I say dumb fück as they’ve been having people over....she’s a useless muppet that doesn’t seem to cope unless there is a bunch of humans in front of her to yap at and to yap at her... needy ahole...

The brother is absolutely idolized by my other half , he’s like a second father to her after she lost her dad in a car crash... brilliant guy but the wife is a bit of a flakey fücktard as has been evident in her behavior...

I am hearing of a few now who have got it twice, much be different variants, some folks won't change and learn, still act like nothing happening, no restrictions lockdown for the pandemic

Asylum15

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I would fight that fine if I were you, that is essential travel delivering meds, contact your local TDs and media etc.,

I'll be fighting the hole off it don't worry.

He gave me a long spiel of ''DO YOU REALISE HOW MANY LIES WE'RE TOLD ON THE DAILY BASIS, HAVING TO STAND OUT HERE ALL DAY LONG STOPPING FELLAS LIKE YOU.''

Showed him the meds but he cut me off and honestly, I nearly ****ing drove away.

Again - My family member can then travel freely down to nearly ****ing Africa and no bother.

Wolf359f

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

It's the Group 12 in that graph, think has since become Group 13, I'm wondering about. They are the last group before the mega 54 to 18 Group.

Group 13: People in occupations important to the functioning of society?
For example: third level institutions, entertainment and goods-producing industries who work in settings where protective measures can be followed without much difficulty.

Not really sure on the description, it's quite vague. I'd imagine as groups get closer up the list, the definition will be refined. I can't imagine the wait between group 13 and 14 will be much, if any.

TheDoctor

Going to be a great scrap for vaccines for us group 14ers when the time comes

Rebelbrowser

TheDoctor wrote: »

Going to be a great scrap for vaccines for us group 14ers when the time comes

Yup, being in Group 13 could be a 3 months queue jump depending on your age.

Strumms

Asylum15 wrote: »

I'll be fighting the hole off it don't worry.

He gave me a long spiel of ''DO YOU REALISE HOW MANY LIES WE'RE TOLD ON THE DAILY BASIS, HAVING TO STAND OUT HERE ALL DAY LONG STOPPING FELLAS LIKE YOU.''

Showed him the meds but he cut me off and honestly, I nearly ****ing drove away.

Again - My family member can then travel freely down to nearly ****ing Africa and no bother.

If you had the meds with either prescription or receipt that’s a bit crap of them.

Wolf359f

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

Yup, being in Group 13 could be a 3 months queue jump depending on your age.

Where are you getting the 3 months from?

gozunda

covidrelease wrote: »

I don't consider it a conspiracy, its just being badly managed.

This was your previous reply

covidrelease wrote:

But the under 65 covid patients nearly always get better and walk out of hospital, that is what hospitals are there for, to make people better, why are people still throwing their toys out of the pram about covid wards filling up and all the rest of the panic merchant stuff.

Society has moved on from the fearmongering and the government / NPHET need to change their approach, that is why covid numbers are rising.

How would allowing hospitals to fill up with growing number of people sick with covid be good management?

We're currently in the midst of a pandemic. I'm no great fan of our current politicians. But they're tasked with trying to manage or at least contain the rate of infection. But fuk it I'd hate to be them. They're damned if the do and damned if they don't no matter what happens.

covidrelease wrote: »

As somebody said earlier, government decide, are they more expert than the rest of us on dealing with a pandemic, Comical Donnelly, Economic crash Martin, you seriously look up to them as experts?
Leaving construction closed is a fail.
Constraining people to 5K is a fail.
Guards harassing people is a fail.
Not allowing a few people sit outside a coffee shop is a fail.
Maybe cases are rising because these "experts" you refer to in government have made a balls of it?

Nphet as an expert group advise and the government decide to implement thst advice etc. Are restrictions necessary to help keep down the rate of infection? Yes they are imho. With the exception of construction the UK government goes even further with strict stay at home orders and making foreign travel for holidays actually illegal. Ditto coffeed shops which can only offer a take away service - no sitting outside. And I'm not comparing our approach to theirs but simply showing such restrictions are fairly common atm.

What we do need to do need to do is keep vaccinating. And get more vaccines where possible. So we can start to roll back restrictions

And yes people will continue to spread covid to each other if restrictions aren't observed in the medium term whilst the majority of people are still unvaccinated. Thats just the way it is.

Turtwig

Assuming this isn't a blip. Ireland's situation just got very interesting. No obvious feasible pathways forward. All savior eggs are now well and truly in the vaccine basket.

Wolf359f

Turtwig wrote: »

Assuming this isn't a blip. Ireland's situation just got very interesting. No obvious feasible pathways forward. All savior eggs are now well and truly in the vaccine basket.

Kinda like nearly every other country in the world.

Turtwig

Wolf359f wrote: »

Kinda like nearly every other country in the world.

Aye but they all have plans right? Right???

Wolf359f

Turtwig wrote: »

Aye but they all have plans right? Right???

All based on vaccines.

MrMusician18

Asylum15 wrote: »

A family member of mine recently booked a holiday to Lanzarote from Dublin and drove from Cork to Dublin, spent a week there and then returned to Cork. (We are all furious with said person). However, she was not stopped once at a checkpoint either way and did not get a single fine.

Then last week I drove from Cork City to Fermoy to deliver crucial meds to my aunt (diabetic, doesn't drive) and was stopped by a Garda who absolutely smashed the ears off me and handed me a nice fine.

It's this type of stuff makes me wonder.

Didn't happen, at least not as presented.

Oranage2

Crazy high numbers, I wonder does it coincide with the schools opening. Schools were opened after summer with no plan and massive spikes happened.

Now it seems that schools opening again with no plan and numbers are spiking again, who would have thought?

JP Liz V1

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Didn't happen, at least not as presented.

You saying it's a lie I've been stopped going shopping by Gardai who have been nice and polite while others acting Billy big balls sarcastic and rude who some look about 12

wes

Oranage2 wrote: »

Crazy high numbers, I wonder does it coincide with the schools opening. Schools were opened after summer with no plan and massive spikes happened.

Now it seems that schools opening again with no plan and numbers are spiking again, who would have thought?

It almost certain to be schools reopening. We see this pattern time and again. It will be denied for some reason.

spookwoman

wes wrote: »

It almost certain to be schools reopening. We see this pattern time and again. It will be denied for some reason.

Using Martina's number on twitter and they are only the ones she has been notified of so far since the 27/2 there has been 325 cases and they roughly match up with the county numbers with Kildare Meath Offaly having the most

fits

My mother who is over 75 hasn’t been vaccinated yet. Really getting impatient now. She lives on her own and pandemic has been horrible for her.

I honestly don’t know where we can go from here. This was always going to be a tricky time as vaccinations are rolled out. But this thread is reminding me very much of last November. We just cannot have such a surge again. I know oldest groups are vaccinated but most people in icus are under 70. A local here spent 4.5 months in icu. He was in early sixties and he didn’t make it. I wonder if people easily forget what we are dealing with.

timsey tiger

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

You saying it's a lie I've been stopped going shopping by Gardai who have been nice and polite while others acting Billy big balls sarcastic and rude who some look about 12

They didn't fine you though did they,so not the same thing at all?

lawred2

gozunda wrote: »

The point I think you are critically missing - is that people get sick enough to end up in Hospital and require specialist care.

That's people away from work, parents away from children and even those with underlying conditions including youngsters who risk not walking out of hospital.

And for every very ill people having to be admitted to hospital - it puts further pressure on a health system struggling to cope.

Hospitals were not built to cope with pandemics.

The only real fear mongering going on is those who claim its all some big conspiracy. And the reason numbers are rising are those who think they know better than the experts.

Well given the annual trolley crises and outrageous waiting lists we had to hear about pre Covid, begs the question as to what it is our health system is actually built for?

Rebelbrowser

Wolf359f wrote: »

Where are you getting the 3 months from?

Just a guess, but presumably the 18 to 54 cohort contains a 1m+ people so that's going to take a while to do. If you are at the back of that group then actually getting vaccinated ahead of that group will surely be worth 2 or 3 months?