Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

Jinglejangle69

Polar101 wrote: »

So.. mandatory quarantine for incoming flight passengers going "live" on Friday, but only if you travel in from South America, many African countries, UAE or Austria.

I wonder if they just did a quiz of "name all countries of the world", and the winner was able to name 33 countries. I could think of a few other countries that should be on the list.

€1875 for a 2-week staycation in a hotel.

It's ridiculous.

Most of the 33 countries would have very fee arrivals anyway.

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/quarantine-delay-allows-1213-fly-in-from-risk-nations-40220929.html

Quarantine delay allows 1,213 fly in from risk nations

More than 34,000 people arrived into the State - including more than 1,200 from high-risk countries such as Brazil and South Africa - in the three-week period after the Government signed off on mandatory hotel quarantine plans.

pauldry

Reinfections growing in Czech Republic.

These sorts of headlines need to be banned.

They kill my hope and my mental health as a result.:(

Sweet.Science

Crazy out left wing opposition pushed for this mandatory hotel quarantine

I cant think another anything more right wing

lawred2

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/quarantine-delay-allows-1213-fly-in-from-risk-nations-40220929.html

Quarantine delay allows 1,213 fly in from risk nations

More than 34,000 people arrived into the State - including more than 1,200 from high-risk countries such as Brazil and South Africa - in the three-week period after the Government signed off on mandatory hotel quarantine plans.

And because the government and HSE have f*cked about for 12 months not putting in any sort of capable track and trace for incoming travellers - we do not know whether they are responsible for one case in Ireland or thousands of cases in Ireland.

Let's blame schools.

Eod100

Polar101 wrote: »

So.. mandatory quarantine for incoming flight passengers going "live" on Friday, but only if you travel in from South America, many African countries, UAE or Austria.

I wonder if they just did a quiz of "name all countries of the world", and the winner was able to name 33 countries. I could think of a few other countries that should be on the list.

€1875 for a 2-week staycation in a hotel.

Even better is lot of those countries don't have direct flights so people will be on same flight as people who will be guarantining. They should just do it for everyone. Have exemptions for actually urgent and essential travel with proof and negative test.

covidrelease

UAE quarantine, near the top of the vaccinations tables?

WTF.

lawred2

Eod100 wrote: »

Even better is lot of those countries don't have direct flights so people will be on same flight as people who will be guarantining. They should just do it for everyone. Have exemptions for actually urgent and essential travel with proof and negative test.

how does it work if they are routed through London where we have no expectation of quarantine?

covidrelease

lawred2 wrote: »

how does it work if they are routed through London where we have no expectation of quarantine?

Obviously that is the way to come in. Fly to London then book a separate flight to Dublin.

Or a connecting flight to Belfast.

That is why it is stupid but what do you expect from Donnelly.

Eod100

lawred2 wrote: »

how does it work if they are routed through London where we have no expectation of quarantine?

Donnelly said people had to make themselves known once flight has landed on radio earlier. Dunno if they can be picked up at immigration based on flight or passport info if they don't though.

Cluedo Monopoly

lawred2 wrote: »

And because the government and HSE have f*cked about for 12 months not putting in any sort of capable track and trace for incoming travellers - we do not know whether they are responsible for one case in Ireland or thousands of cases in Ireland.

That will be done for next March...

stephenjmcd

lawred2 wrote: »

how does it work if they are routed through London where we have no expectation of quarantine?

It's based on country of origin or if you've been in any of the listed countries in the last 14 days including transiting through ports or airports in listed countries.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/a6975-mandatory-hotel-quarantine/

funnydoggy

Cancer services will not fully resume until year-end under HSE's pandemic plan

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/cancer-services-will-not-fully-resume-until-year-end-under-hse-s-pandemic-plan-1.4517265

titan18

jhegarty wrote: »

So after all the panic on Sunday it was less swabs than the week before. Just a backlog to be cleared.

I mean, it was 15 less positive swabs, but then Monday has 163 more positive swabs, so it's still not good.

Eod100

stephenjmcd wrote: »

It's based on country of origin or if you've been in any of the listed countries in the last 14 days including transiting through ports or airports in listed countries.

Yeah just don't know how they could check. Maybe if it's a connecting flight or if passport stamped or digitally tagged but when it's not a direct flight you would wonder.

ek motor

pauldry wrote: »

Reinfections growing in Czech Republic.

These sorts of headlines need to be banned.

They kill my hope and my mental health as a result.:(

Dont read news websites . You will be happier.

ek motor

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Crazy out left wing opposition pushed for this mandatory hotel quarantine

I cant think another anything more right wing

'Anti-fascists' consistently prove themselves the most fascist people in society , ironically enough.

funnydoggy

pauldry wrote: »

Reinfections growing in Czech Republic.

These sorts of headlines need to be banned.

They kill my hope and my mental health as a result.:(

It may sound selfish, but keep your focus on Ireland. We're vaccinating like mad, and any reinfections will be mitigated/prevented. After that, stay away from the news headlines! They did a number on me during lockdown 1

Cluedo Monopoly

It looks like the mandatory hotel quarantine is dependent on passengers self declaring they are from a risk country. So it's a nonsense really.

Timmy O Toole

Concerning

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1374326277927272451?s=19

ek motor

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

It looks like the mandatory hotel quarantine is dependent on passengers self declaring they are from a risk country. So it's a nonsense really.

So completely useless then ? Nice

ek motor

Timmy O Toole wrote: »

Concerning

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1374326277927272451?s=19

Their infection rate has been high for months, nothing new.

funnydoggy

There'll always be a low % of reinfection, but if cases skyrocket, reinfections do too.

What Username Guidelines

ek motor wrote: »

Their infection rate has been high for months, nothing new.

Apart from the accelerating number of reinfections.

But once again it can be dismissed as "only a few cases out of millions" and "impossible to prove" or even "that's just scaremongering".

It's becoming very clear that reinfection is very possible, and this will have an impact on vaccination strategy.

timmyntc

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Apart from the accelerating number of reinfections.

But once again it can be dismissed as "only a few cases out of millions" and "impossible to prove" or even "that's just scaremongering".

It's becoming very clear that reinfection is very possible, and this will have an impact on vaccination strategy.

We all knew that reinfection was possible, it has been seen before, but in very low numbers.
Its not entirely surprising that a country with rising infections will also see rising reinfections, the two go hand in hand.

ek motor

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Apart from the accelerating number of reinfections.

But once again it can be dismissed as "only a few cases out of millions" and "impossible to prove" or even "that's just scaremongering".

It's becoming very clear that reinfection is very possible, and this will have an impact on vaccination strategy.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/czech-republic/

Have a look at the 7 day moving average .

Reinfection is also nothing new.

LillyIsland

“Nearly a year after California Gov. Gavin Newsom ordered the nation’s first statewide shutdown because of the coronavirus, masks remain mandated, indoor dining and other activities are significantly limited, and Disneyland remains closed.
By contrast, Florida has no statewide restrictions. Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis has prohibited municipalities from fining people who refuse to wear masks. And Disney World has been open since July.
Despite their differing approaches, California and Florida have experienced almost identical outcomes in COVID-19 case rates.”


https://apnews.com/article/public-health-health-florida-coronavirus-pandemic-ron-desantis-889df3826d4da96447b329f524c33047?fbclid=IwAR3K8pVYMoKDzawm4kfvBNzx7G0LmyAtrLf2RdgxgkpypL1_scIqZCQ3-Ho

lawred2

Eod100 wrote: »

Donnelly said people had to make themselves known once flight has landed on radio earlier. Dunno if they can be picked up at immigration based on flight or passport info if they don't though.

facepalm

Deeper Blue

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Apart from the accelerating number of reinfections.

But once again it can be dismissed as "only a few cases out of millions" and "impossible to prove" or even "that's just scaremongering".

It's becoming very clear that reinfection is very possible, and this will have an impact on vaccination strategy.

The reinfections in Czech republic happened after 5 months on average.

We also know that reinfections tend to be milder and they're rare.

I wouldn't be too worried. It's certainly possible, but unlikely.

Doubt it'll affect the vaccine programme in any significant way.

Wombatman

Eod100 wrote: »

Donnelly said people had to make themselves known once flight has landed on radio earlier. Dunno if they can be picked up at immigration based on flight or passport info if they don't though.

The mad thing about different passengers being treated differently, is that they all have been sitting together, in the same small space, for the last couple of hours!