Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

Jim_Hodge

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

Looking at the national numbers, you now have 12 counties at 102 cases per 100,000 or less.

It would appear that none of them have any schools,

TobyHolmes

ShineOn7 wrote: »

A recent tweet from Bressie to his quarter of a million followers

The briefings are now resembling a Black Comedy film and they need to start saying things like "When the Schools close this Summer, we'll use the spare R0 for new things. Outdoor restaurants can come back etc"

If you keep beating people up with Gloom Porn they will start making their own restriction rules

Many already are

https://twitter.com/nbrez/status/1372870931954208769

we need more high profile people to speak up for the population. thank you Bressie.

titan18

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

Looking at the national numbers, you now have 12 counties at 102 cases per 100,000 or less.

Ya, and we're still told to do fcuking more.

is_that_so

ShineOn7 wrote: »

A recent tweet from Bressie to his quarter of a million followers

The briefings are now resembling a Black Comedy film and they need to start saying things like "When the Schools close this Summer, we'll use the spare R0 for new things. Outdoor restaurants can come back etc"

If you keep beating people up with Gloom Porn they will start making their own restriction rules

Many already are

https://twitter.com/nbrez/status/1372870931954208769

TBF he's trying to combine about six messages into one. Yes it's hard, stay strong, just a bit more, keep your contacts low, the vaccines are coming and June will be so much better. It's really the last two that are not truthful as AZ find ever more inventive ways to shaft vaccination programmes.

Messi19

Mentioned on VM news that we've 24 cases of SA variant and 9 of the Brazilian. Not a peep on rte news

https://twitter.com/VirginMediaNews/status/1374417020586926080?s=19

covidrelease

Benimar wrote: »

Are you denying that they are stagnating?

Bit early to say stagnating, although vaccines and herd immunity will make it difficult for the case numbers to get going again.

ShineOn7

Ohmeha wrote: »

National new case numbers including rolling averages and percentages for the past 4 weeks. R number hovering too close to 1.0

Has anyone got recent Dublin LEA figures?

Thanks

PTH2009

good to see the numbers going down but they will rise when the mother's day and Paddys day numbers start to come, When would that be ?

ShineOn7

TobyHolmes wrote: »

we need more high profile people to speak up for the population. thank you Bressie.

As long as they're as articulate and intelligent as Bressie

I don't want Conor McGregor speaking up for Ireland's Covid situation

wadacrack

Tuur Dierckx: Belgian footballer sentenced to one month in prison over lockdown party

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12254400/tuur-dierckx-belgian-footballer-sentenced-to-one-month-in-prison-over-lockdown-party?fbclid=IwAR2LvV-BYvywsCsmUcfvPvk6hm3BsjhGEOhaceUAEeVZR4MsfyXBT0-Ouc8

blowitupref

PTH2009 wrote: »

good to see the numbers going down but they will rise when the mother's day and Paddys day numbers start to come, When would that be ?

It's increase from last Tuesday in both the daily reporting and the 7-day average. Mothers day probably played a role in that increase among other mixing.

Wednesday is always high in both cases and swab count so I'll expect 550 to 750 cases reported tomorrow which will likely include St Patricks day mixing.

JTMan

The Irish government need a plan. Here is another potential template for them ...

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1374424144599687169

PTH2009

JTMan wrote: »

@Irish Government - We need a plan. Here is another template for you ...

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1374424144599687169

Id take off your hand for that but as we all know NPHET wont go for something as adventurous as that

ShineOn7

Vaccine passports will unlock indoor gatherings

I love how anti-vaxxers are getting locked out of things like concerts and travel

It'll make both more enjoyable and full of decent people

Locotastic

PTH2009 wrote: »

good to see the numbers going down but they will rise when the mother's day and Paddys day numbers start to come, When would that be ?

Median period for symptoms in those that show them is 5 days (98% of all symptomatic cases will show symptoms by day 11 so we can be sure by then that most who are going to show symptoms will have them at that stage).

Give a day or two day to contact GP then another couple of days for testing and results.

So by the end of the week we'll be able to see any spikes directly from mothers day and this time next week Paddy's day too. Already seeing increased referrals which could be down to those events, or schools or both.

It's promising so far with the exception of Sunday which we know was due to a backlog anyway.

It's the asymptomatic cases or those with delayed symptoms that will be difficult to see and the subsequent spread to their contacts.

LillyIsland

A new study published in Nature, one of the most prestigious scientific journals in the world, found...
“In ~ 98% of the comparisons using 87 different regions of the world we found no evidence that the number of deaths is reduced by staying at home.”

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-84092-1

funnydoggy

ShineOn7 wrote: »

I love how anti-vaxxers are getting locked out of things like concerts and travel

It'll make both more enjoyable and full of decent people

:pac:

NeuralNetwork

The rules are undoubtedly too blunt an instrument and most definitely a bit too arbitrary and could be fine tuned a lot more. However, we have also very recently gone from relatively low rates to being briefly the worst in the world per capita for a few weeks to now back to fairly reasonable again.

It just shows how insanely volatile the situation is and how rapidly this damn thing can ramp up and down.

There's no way of describing this disease as anything other than an absolute nightmare scenario and there's nothing other than 'least worst' options, at least until the vaccines are rolled out to a level where by we get to herd immunity and that's showing evidence of potentially being around the corner as the months roll on.

The situation is grim, but the messaging also needs to be presenting some practical solutions to give people some hope too.

I don't think it's being helped much by the comparatively slower rollout of the vaccines, relative to the UK and US, which are our biggest comparators as anglophones. Even if we're are doing well by EU & EEA standards and are significantly ahead of Canada, Japan etc etc and much of the world, that's not registering here. All that matters is we are behind the UK.

We're also being bombarded with very aggressively anti-EU messaging from an element of the UK media and politics. Some of it is bordering on trolling and even propaganda and that's being heavily absorbed here and translated into the usual Irish self-loathing "only in Ireland --- we're the thurd wurolde' and so on.

I think the government, NPHET and also elements of the Irish media need to be more aware of Ireland's mental state and cultural biases sometimes.

This is not the USA or the UK. We have not had a major issue with non-compliance with rules. I've actually find Ireland is going into lock-step on this and is often far more conservative than many places. There are outliers, but they're definitely not most.

However, if you keep bashing us over the head with heavy messaging, there's also the other side of Ireland's national psyche, which is quite prone to finding self-fulfilling and depressing narratives and applying them to a culture that does not really come across as all that confidently robust at times. As a culture, we spend a lot of time seeking approval and comparing against benchmarks. That can be very good in some ways, but it can be very depressing if we're perceiving ourselves to be performing far worse than we actually are.

It's being made worse by a lack of strong leadership. I don't mean authoritarian leadership, but we are lacking someone who can really put forward the positives and bring the country along with them. There's a sense of everyone, including the government, being quite frightened by what's going on and that's not a good place to be.

TheDoctor

PTH2009 wrote: »

Id take off your hand for that but as we all know NPHET wont go for something as adventurous as that

Sure 80% vaccinated by the end of June gets you an outdoor summer from NPHET.

A plan like Denmark’s would fall into the “deeply concerned” area

is_that_so

ShineOn7 wrote: »

I love how anti-vaxxers are getting locked out of things like concerts and travel

It'll make both more enjoyable and full of decent people

What a myopic little world you live in! Oh you missed right-thinking in that post!

Marty Bird

TheDoctor wrote: »

Sure 80% vaccinated by the end of June is gets you an outdoor summer from NPHET.

A plan like Denmark’s would fall into the “deeply concerned” area

Or completely off the chart on the worry index.

wadacrack

ShineOn7 wrote: »

I love how anti-vaxxers are getting locked out of things like concerts and travel

It'll make both more enjoyable and full of decent people

Would lead to an exponential decrease in anti social behaviour

Beasty

Andrew00 wrote: »

Why do they always lie and make up a high death figure anytime the case numbers are low?

Absolute criminals

Take it to the Conspiracy Theories forum, otherwise you'll lose posting privileges

political analyst

wadacrack wrote: »

Tuur Dierckx: Belgian footballer sentenced to one month in prison over lockdown party

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12254400/tuur-dierckx-belgian-footballer-sentenced-to-one-month-in-prison-over-lockdown-party?fbclid=IwAR2LvV-BYvywsCsmUcfvPvk6hm3BsjhGEOhaceUAEeVZR4MsfyXBT0-Ouc8

In the article, there's a major qualification to that headline.

According to Belgium's leading newspaper, Nieuwsblad, his club are not worried over the prospect of Dierckx missing matches as prison sentences of one month are usually not carried out.

Charles Babbage

PTH2009 wrote: »

Id take off your hand for that but as we all know NPHET wont go for something as adventurous as that

Even if they would, can you imagine the whining here about having to have a vaccine passport and how so and so had one because they work in the HSE and you don't have your appointment until next week and you can't go somewhere?


But something like this is going to be needed. Denmark is a similar sized population and they've done better from the start.



They need to agree on a scheme with NI, which will likely be impossible doing to the unionists wanting an English vaccine passport even though few enough people from England go to events or hairdressers in NI.

Renault 5

Marty Bird wrote: »

Or completely off the chart on the worry index.

Well they will be thinking and reflecting on the outdoor situation and outdoor activities and what might be possible.

They won’t want to speculate beyond the next 6 weeks and may give a update then. But implementing based on what they decide will take another 6 weeks and they will review an hour before implementation in case they decide not to implement the implementation.

Doctor Jimbob

JTMan wrote: »

The Irish government need a plan. Here is another potential template for them ...

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1374424144599687169

We're only allowed to look at other countries when scary things are happening, not good things.

Timmy O Toole

How can vaccine passports be introduced before every adult in the country is offered a vaccine at least ?

Locotastic

Charles Babbage wrote: »

Even if they would, can you imagine the whining here about having to have a vaccine passport and how so and so had one because they work in the HSE and you don't have your appointment until next week and you can't go somewhere?


But something like this is going to be needed. Denmark is a similar sized population and they've done better from the start.



They need to agree on a scheme with NI, which will likely be impossible doing to the unionists wanting an English vaccine passport even though few enough people from England go to events or hairdressers in NI.

Wonder what will happen with children since they aren't going to be vaccinated and therefore won't have a vaccine passport/green pass?

votecounts

ShineOn7 wrote: »

I love how anti-vaxxers are getting locked out of things like concerts and travel

It'll make both more enjoyable and full of decent people

]Its not just anti vaxxers, with the slowness of our rollout it will be 6 months before certain age groups are offered it.