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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    From citizens advice.

    I would take any politician grandstanding with a hefty pinch of salt.

    So do I ;)

    But I think it is important for ordinary citzens to know there are exceptions...thanks for the prompt replys

    Edit...thanks also stheno and Ace2007


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Communication remains a shambles so - completely unclear about this yesterday when addressing the nation and clarifies/changes the message this evening when talking to the FF parliamentary party

    See tonight's opinion poll?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Maxface wrote: »
    Great though that he is telling his party that this may be the case, the public can live off of second hand information. I know they have numerous highly paid advisors and at least one of them must be familiar with effective communication. I really can't understand it.

    Eh you do know that there was a Strategic communications department that Ff got rid of last year?


  • Registered Users Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    Stheno wrote: »
    See tonight's opinion poll?

    Poll was taken on Monday and Tuesday. Would be interested to see whether the results changed after release of the plan yesterday


  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


    Stheno wrote: »
    A bit of hope


    Taoiseach Micheál Martin has indicated for the first time that Level 5 restrictions on outdoor activity, sport, construction and remaining within 5km of home could be eased on Easter Monday, April 5th.

    In what was received as a move to provide a tangible date, Mr Martin told the Fianna Fáil parliamentary party on Wednesday night that those four areas would be examined before Easter, in tandem with the National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet).

    The clarification on this issue means if the advice from Nphet on the metrics were favourable, the first steps to a wider reopening of society from lockdown would commence at the beginning of April rather than later in the month.

    Can you imagine the outpouring of people into the world on the 5th of April and after. I'm going nowhere until all the really enthusiastic feckers get tired :pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,705 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    speckle wrote: »
    would you list or have a link to the exceptions thanks

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/renting_a_home/tenancies_and_covid19.html#l1bd92
    If your landlord has given you a valid notice to quit (also called an eviction notice), the notice is paused while these restrictions are in place, and also for a further 10 days after the restrictions are lifted, unless the notice to quit is for the following reasons:

    Anti-social behaviour
    Acting in a way that would invalidate a house insurance policy
    Acting in a way that would cause substantial damage to the accommodation
    Using the accommodation for commercial or other non-residential purposes


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Tpcl20 wrote: »
    Can you imagine the outpouring of people into the world on the 5th of April and after. I'm going nowhere until all the really enthusiastic feckers get tired :pac:

    Well I'd like to go to Howth grab a coffee and walk the pier with my new dog

    I'll use up a holiday day to.avoid going on the weekend :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Stheno wrote: »
    Eh you do know that there was a Strategic communications department that Ff got rid of last year?

    Eh that was the 'Make FG and Leo look great' spin unit.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Eh that was the 'Make FG and Leo look great' spin unit.

    At least it existed tbh


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    If you run an online business while renting during work from home restrictions is that classified as commercial?


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    speckle wrote: »
    If you run an online business while renting during work from home restrictions is that classified as commercial?

    Not that I am.aware of, its basically.working from home


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Stheno wrote: »
    At least it existed tbh

    The units sole purpose was to spin on behalf of the then FG government, propaganda is not beneficial to wider society.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Awful news today with a 16 year old that died of covid. Puts things into perspective for anyone getting fed up with the restrictions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,266 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Has this appeared anywhere else than Gript?

    Not that I can see as yet. They have this scoop and are running with it, similar to the Village getting the Leo scoop.

    More information from them now, including emails and correspondence in screenshots. Suggesting they were deceiving politicians and parties.

    https://gript.ie/revealed-how-zero-covid-activists-deceived-politicians/


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Awful news today with a 16 year old that died of covid. Puts things into perspective for anyone getting fed up with the restrictions.

    No it doesn't imo

    That 16 yo could have died in December given that the deaths today included December and January

    People including me are becoming desensitised to such things tbh

    Its like when I was a kid in the 80s with famine in.Africa or the troubles in the North


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Not that I can see as yet. They have this scoop and are running with it, similar to the Village getting the Leo scoop.

    More information from them now, including emails and correspondence in screenshots. Suggesting they were deceiving politicians and parties.

    https://gript.ie/revealed-how-zero-covid-activists-deceived-politicians/
    Wow!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 James 701


    Cracks appearing.....

    The silenced majority are starting to break through the happy RTE lockdown narrative. Come on


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno



    Inevitable imo

    Martin stepping aside might be a good idea

    The man exudes panic and rabbit in headlines every time he speaks


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 James 701


    Awful news today with a 16 year old that died of covid. Puts things into perspective for anyone getting fed up with the restrictions.

    My God. Is this what you people have to resort to.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,819 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Some people thrive on misery.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,819 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Stheno wrote: »
    Inevitable imo

    Martin stepping aside might be a good idea

    The man exudes panic and rabbit in headlines every time he speaks

    Another poster quoted MM from last year saying that 5km was not worthwhile, and that research had shown disadvantages to it. A year later he's saying the exact opposite.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Another poster quoted MM from last year saying that 5km was not worthwhile, and that research had shown disadvantages to it. A year later he's saying the exact opposite.

    He also said last year that non essential retail being closed was silly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Another poster quoted MM from last year saying that 5km was not worthwhile, and that research had shown disadvantages to it. A year later he's saying the exact opposite.

    A politician flip flopping? You surprised?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Some people thrive on misery.

    How will they cope when this ends which it inevitably will, I wonder.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,654 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Some people thrive on misery.


    Some people do not want more deaths, but they'll get shouted down here. You might as well be a peace campaigner in the republican pub circa 1980.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,705 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Stheno wrote: »

    Its like when I was a kid in the 80s with famine in.Africa or the troubles in the North

    It's sad thought that 40 years on there is still famine in Africa, but then again who cares about Africa right? Large % of European countries including Ireland will have been vaccinated before some countries in Africa even get the vaccine.

    As Mike in the WHO said, the west buying up all the vaccine's to give to the young and healthy while the sick and vulnerable and those that need it most in places like Africa have to wait.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,038 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    It's sad thought that 40 years on there is still famine in Africa, but then again who cares about Africa right? Large % of European countries including Ireland will have been vaccinated before some countries in Africa even get the vaccine.

    As Mike in the WHO said, the west buying up all the vaccine's to give to the young and healthy while the sick and vulnerable and those that need it most in places like Africa have to wait.

    You can give your vaccine to Africa if you and stay in lockdown for longer than needed if you want

    Europe needs to helps it's own citizens first

    Then worry about others


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    It's sad thought that 40 years on there is still famine in Africa, but then again who cares about Africa right? Large % of European countries including Ireland will have been vaccinated before some countries in Africa even get the vaccine.

    As Mike in the WHO said, the west buying up all the vaccine's to give to the young and healthy while the sick and vulnerable and those that need it most in places like Africa have to wait.

    Is Ghana in Africa?https://www.thejournal.ie/ghana-first-country-covax-covid-vaccines-5364191-Feb2021/


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,705 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007



    Yea Ghana became the first country in Africa, but many others wont' get the vaccine till much later in the year...
    Some countries such as South Africa and Zimbabwe have begun vaccination programmes, but many others will have to wait until later in the year for stocks to arrive.

    There has been global competition to get hold of vaccines, and African countries have generally not been as successful as richer countries in securing supplies.

    "It is deeply unjust that the most vulnerable Africans are forced to wait for vaccines while lower-risk groups in rich countries are made safe," says Matshidiso Moeti, the World Health Organization (WHO) regional director for Africa.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/56100076

    The west buying up more Vaccines than they need, while the poor suffer... it never ends, whether it's food or medical who cares about Africa, as long as the West can get on with their lives eh?


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