Dublin Marathon 2021

Consonata

I saw that entries from the 2020 Dublin Marathon are being rolled forward to 2021.

Will there be any additional spots being allocated for this year or is it unlikely. Just I missed out on entry last time and was rather keen to get a spot this time.

ultrapercy

Consonata wrote: »

I saw that entries from the 2020 Dublin Marathon are being rolled forward to 2021.

Will there be any additional spots being allocated for this year or is it unlikely. Just I missed out on entry last time and was rather keen to get a spot this time.

Its very unlikely it will take place this year.

rovers_runner

Consonata wrote: »

I saw that entries from the 2020 Dublin Marathon are being rolled forward to 2021.

Will there be any additional spots being allocated for this year or is it unlikely. Just I missed out on entry last time and was rather keen to get a spot this time.

I'd say you are looking at a late ballot place for 2022 if there happens to be leftover places or cancellations.
2021 not looking likely now so there will be a rollover of those entries to 2022.

Next public ballot will be 2023.

average_runner

rovers_runner wrote: »

I'd say you are looking at a late ballot place for 2022 if there happens to be leftover places or cancellations.
2021 not looking likely now so there will be a rollover of those entries to 2022.

Next public ballot will be 2023.

With the amount of over sea marathons now in autumn, spaces will come available.

API

average_runner wrote: »

With the amount of over sea marathons now in autumn, spaces will come available.

Plus they gave the option of a refund to people in 2020 so they have some tickets for resale from that

Ross Runner

https://youtu.be/fFxrAUAAubI

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Unthought Known

Ross Runner wrote: »

https://youtu.be/fFxrAUAAubI

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Deadly video for DCM novices.

daz23

ultrapercy wrote: »

Its very unlikely it will take place this year.

Why the pessimism towards the marathon going ahead this year. If the governments plan is to have 80% of adults get dose by June then we should be in a good place by the end of October cases should reduce in the summer and with the majority of the adult population are vaccinated I can't see a reason for it not going ahead.

ultrapercy

daz23 wrote: »

Why the pessimism towards the marathon going ahead this year. If the governments plan is to have 80% of adults get dose by June then we should be in a good place by the end of October cases should reduce in the summer and with the majority of the adult population are vaccinated I can't see a reason for it not going ahead.

because the organisers would need to know with certainty, very soon, that it will go ahead. The language from government gives no such encouragement.

6run28

there are major marathons being planned all over Europe for Sept & Oct - London plan on 50,000 runners. Why would Dublin be any different to the rest of Europe ? Current projections look to have everyone vaccinated well before the race.

ultrapercy

6run28 wrote: »

there are major marathons being planned all over Europe for Sept & Oct - London plan on 50,000 runners. Why would Dublin be any different to the rest of Europe ? Current projections look to have everyone vaccinated well before the race.

Dublin is different to london in almoat every way imaginable. Budget, sponsorship and full time staff to name a few. I doubt London will go ahead in the 50k format but the UK plan is a help at present Ireland has no mapped out route to freedom so Dublin will not hapoen.

6run28

The vacination rollout plan is pretty clear - 60% will be fully vaccinated by end of June and all adults by end September. Marathons of a similar size are being organised across the EU. Hopefully they don't rush to cancel.

API

daz23 wrote: »

Why the pessimism towards the marathon going ahead this year. If the governments plan is to have 80% of adults get dose by June then we should be in a good place by the end of October cases should reduce in the summer and with the majority of the adult population are vaccinated I can't see a reason for it not going ahead.

If 80% of the Irish population is vaccinated by June, I'll personally pay for you to do the marathon.

ger664

With new mutations and variants cropping up seriously doubt Public Health will allow mass events regardless of how many are vaccinated. The Brazilian P1 Variant (6 cases)has the UK authorities in a spin trying to locate/identify/capture the 6th person.

SeeMoreBut

The government saying non essential travel is literally off this year but expecting 20,000 + to squeeze into Merrion Sq is fine. I'd seriously doubt it.

Maybe they could go for Spring next year

daz23

API wrote: »

If 80% of the Irish population is vaccinated by June, I'll personally pay for you to do the marathon.

We can only live in hope, the way it's going I doubt they'll meet this target, but allowing them until Aug/Sept to meet that target we should have the critical mass vaccinated for DCM at the end of October.

ger664 wrote: »

With new mutations and variants cropping up seriously doubt Public Health will allow mass events regardless of how many are vaccinated. The Brazilian P1 Variant (6 cases)has the UK authorities in a spin trying to locate/identify/capture the 6th person.

SeeMoreBut wrote: »

The government saying non essential travel is literally off this year but expecting 20,000 + to squeeze into Merrion Sq is fine. I'd seriously doubt it.

Maybe they could go for Spring next year

I accept that the public health advice will always advise against public gatherings as this is the safest way to prevent spread of disease. But at some point we are going to have to return to normality. If we follow a similar pattern to last year, when in June we were down to single figure cases per day, if we see the same again this year, and we have a proper track and trace system in place we can track and isolate outbreaks quicker, plus with the addition of the vaccine we can control and suppress any outbreaks going forward.

The big issue is with mutations and trying to prevent them from getting into the country and that's why mandatory hotel quarantine on arrival to prevent any new mutations from entering. This might mean the organisers will need to allow deferrals for oversea's runners but that's hopefully something that can be figured out.

I can't see why we can't manage 20,000 in merrion square New Zealand managed to have 30,000 in a stadium for a rugby match last October and even more interestedly managed to have 14,000 people compete in the Aukland marathon in November, so it proves that it can be done.

ultrapercy wrote: »

Dublin is different to london in almoat every way imaginable. Budget, sponsorship and full time staff to name a few. I doubt London will go ahead in the 50k format but the UK plan is a help at present Ireland has no mapped out route to freedom so Dublin will not hapoen.

I think this is the major difference between the two. the Uk have published their roadmap for a return to normal, while we are still in the dark, which makes it almost impossible to plan anything at the moment.

Dublin was cancelled May 19th last year, it's fair to say if the government don't release any sort of plan when the current lockdown is due to be reviewed in April than you can almost guarantee there will be no marathon. If they somehow manage to get their act together and come up with any sort of plan on how they plan to control covid, then the DCM team have something to work off, and maybe we can have some hope of it going ahead(I have just realised that any hope of the marathon going ahead depends on the current government getting their act together:(:()

Listen I know a lot this is way off topic, but we have little else to talk about until we know if we have the go ahead or not, hopefully soon we will be back talking about training plans for the marathon training gear, and I'll even take talk of injuries and niggles we are all suffering:D:D

ultrapercy

daz23 wrote: »

We can only live in hope, the way it's going I doubt they'll meet this target, but allowing them until Aug/Sept to meet that target we should have the critical mass vaccinated for DCM at the end of October.




I accept that the public health advice will always advise against public gatherings as this is the safest way to prevent spread of disease. But at some point we are going to have to return to normality. If we follow a similar pattern to last year, when in June we were down to single figure cases per day, if we see the same again this year, and we have a proper track and trace system in place we can track and isolate outbreaks quicker, plus with the addition of the vaccine we can control and suppress any outbreaks going forward.

The big issue is with mutations and trying to prevent them from getting into the country and that's why mandatory hotel quarantine on arrival to prevent any new mutations from entering. This might mean the organisers will need to allow deferrals for oversea's runners but that's hopefully something that can be figured out.

I can't see why we can't manage 20,000 in merrion square New Zealand managed to have 30,000 in a stadium for a rugby match last October and even more interestedly managed to have 14,000 people compete in the Aukland marathon in November, so it proves that it can be done.



I think this is the major difference between the two. the Uk have published their roadmap for a return to normal, while we are still in the dark, which makes it almost impossible to plan anything at the moment.

Dublin was cancelled May 19th last year, it's fair to say if the government don't release any sort of plan when the current lockdown is due to be reviewed in April than you can almost guarantee there will be no marathon. If they somehow manage to get their act together and come up with any sort of plan on how they plan to control covid, then the DCM team have something to work off, and maybe we can have some hope of it going ahead(I have just realised that any hope of the marathon going ahead depends on the current government getting their act together:(:()

Listen I know a lot this is way off topic, but we have little else to talk about until we know if we have the go ahead or not, hopefully soon we will be back talking about training plans for the marathon training gear, and I'll even take talk of injuries and niggles we are all suffering:D:D

ok so you kew quite well, better than myself it appears, that Dublin Marathon had little chance of going ahead this year. You wanted to make a political point disguised as an athletics discussion. There are other pages on boards.ie for that and if you insist on bringing it up on here at least do it with honesty and a bit of backbone.

daz23

ultrapercy wrote: »

ok so you kew quite well, better than myself it appears, that Dublin Marathon had little chance of going ahead this year. You wanted to make a political point disguised as an athletics discussion. There are other pages on boards.ie for that and if you insist on bringing it up on here at least do it with honesty and a bit of backbone.

Quite the opposite in fact, I believe we have a great chance of having the marathon this year and the above post highlight's why I think it can happen, nothing political about it, and not everything is about taking political sides or point scoring even though you seem to see it that way, most people just want to return to races and I like to think that there is a great chance of that happening this year withe the vaccine rollout.

You said yourself the major difference between London and Dublin is a roadmap, and all joking aside I'm sure the government will be producing one for April and no doubt that the DCM will be in contact with the Dept of sport to get advanced sight of it, so I don't see why we can't have an event planned for October

As has already been said on this thread there are plenty of major marathons being planned for this Autumn and I see why Dublin should be any different.

You seem to have already made the decision in your head that it's not going ahead this year, while I for my sins still live in hope that it's going ahead.

rovers_runner

It's not going to happen this year lads.
The Govt strategy could be written on the back of a cigarette box.

DCM need to make a call by May when NPHET are still in control, Dr. Tony says no.

Zebra3

6run28 wrote: »

The vacination rollout plan is pretty clear - 60% will be fully vaccinated by end of June and all adults by end September. Marathons of a similar size are being organised across the EU. Hopefully they don't rush to cancel.

And the vaccination targets are being missed, and as already pointed out there is no plan when to reopen.

6run28

Zebra3 wrote: »

And the vaccination targets are being missed, and as already pointed out there is no plan when to reopen.

It's only March. More & more vaccines are being approved. We are still well on course to have all adults vaccinated before October, likely earlier.

Kander

I'm still a little bit hopeful that this might go ahead. Not based on anything but optimism.

Manchester could be another option in October also.

Trampas

Dcm can’t just decide last minute to have a go no go call. By the time they’d need to make decision it’ll be still all up in air and I guess they don’t have deep pockets to take hit if cancelled if they plan to go ahead and it’s called off.

6run28

Yeah they can't leave it to the last minute alright. It was May last year, probably something similar this year.

chris85

Would be very interesting to see if they consider the potential for moving this to the Spring. Would have to think they have an excellent chance to do this in March/April next year.

Foreign travel will still be somewhat limited by then so unlikely to to compete so much with other marathon events abroad. They would certainly sell it out would think. Obviously if it is safe to do so.

rovers_runner

chris85 wrote: »

Would be very interesting to see if they consider the potential for moving this to the Spring. Would have to think they have an excellent chance to do this in March/April next year.

Foreign travel will still be somewhat limited by then so unlikely to to compete so much with other marathon events abroad. They would certainly sell it out would think. Obviously if it is safe to do so.

Would make more sense to limit it to Irish entries and try to go ahead with it in Oct.
Although saying that the UK entrants would have some cause for complaint.

EC1000

chris85 wrote: »

Would be very interesting to see if they consider the potential for moving this to the Spring. Would have to think they have an excellent chance to do this in March/April next year.

Foreign travel will still be somewhat limited by then so unlikely to to compete so much with other marathon events abroad. They would certainly sell it out would think. Obviously if it is safe to do so.

Two in one year would be a big ask of a committee of volunteers I would have thought.

Dudda

chris85 wrote: »

They would certainly sell it out would think. Obviously if it is safe to do so.

It's already sold out I thought. They have our money from late 2019 for the 2020 one which got cancelled. Whenever they have it they can't really sell more tickets.

py

Dudda wrote: »

It's already sold out I thought. They have our money from late 2019 for the 2020 one which got cancelled. Whenever they have it they can't really sell more tickets.

Yup, I let my entry roll forward till the next one. As did anyone I know who got an entry. I can't see many tickets going on sale for the next iteration, whenever that is.

Ross Runner

https://youtu.be/uVK8eziF9Zk

Part 2 of the Route....
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Naked Lepper

am still optimistic it will go ahead
their social media says it is still planned for oct 24th etc

by oct we should be well out of this..

6run28

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2021/0308/1201634-electric-picnic-to-take-place-this-year-say-organisers/

EP takes place in September and they seem confident it can go ahead with 70k attendees. Bodes well for DCM in Oct

rovers_runner

6run28 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2021/0308/1201634-electric-picnic-to-take-place-this-year-say-organisers/

EP takes place in September and they seem confident it can go ahead with 70k attendees. Bodes well for DCM in Oct

Good on them for taking the initiative on this.
The vacuum of having nothing to debate openly in society means NPHET get their way indefinitely, time to open up the floor.

event

6run28 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2021/0308/1201634-electric-picnic-to-take-place-this-year-say-organisers/

EP takes place in September and they seem confident it can go ahead with 70k attendees. Bodes well for DCM in Oct

https://twitter.com/EPfestival/status/1368876008456196096

RacoonQueen

Naked Lepper wrote: »

am still optimistic it will go ahead
their social media says it is still planned for oct 24th etc

by oct we should be well out of this..

That's what we were saying this time last year :pac:

Murph_D

I'd say they are certainly confident that, with the right blurb at this sensitive time, they can sell 70k tickets, which probably won't be refunded if the event does not go ahead, or goes ahead on a smaller scale.

average_runner

Dudda wrote: »

It's already sold out I thought. They have our money from late 2019 for the 2020 one which got cancelled. Whenever they have it they can't really sell more tickets.

Not all places were given and people will drop out now also

average_runner

rovers_runner wrote: »

Good on them for taking the initiative on this.
The vacuum of having nothing to debate openly in society means NPHET get their way indefinitely, time to open up the floor.

Even if it doesn't go ahead, Europe will be open for the marathons, so plenty of choice

Ross Runner

https://youtu.be/hE_aoBI7dpw

DUBLN CITY MARATHON ROUTE #3

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sideshowbob321

average_runner wrote:

Even if it doesn't go ahead, Europe will be open for the marathons, so plenty of choice

I'm still in for Manchester in October. Fingers crossed it goes ahead.
Sad to say it but I think better odds than the DCM going ahead

event

Yeah probably. Are Belfast doing one at the end of the year I wonder?

Zebra3

average_runner wrote: »

Even if it doesn't go ahead, Europe will be open for the marathons, so plenty of choice

Still need to be able to get out of the country!!!!

Consonata

Really hope tickets are available, haven't been able to do a major run in quite some time and missed the boat on the last round of tickets. If no luck, maybe Belfast might be an option

event

Zebra3 wrote: »

Still need to be able to get out of the country!!!!

Book a dentist

Ross Runner

https://youtu.be/hMiMupzSFJQ

Part 4 of DCM ROUTE, some may find this helpful....

Trampas

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/dublin-marathon-2021-set-to-have-a-new-look-and-feel-1.4517073

6run28

More positive news with so many larger races planning to go ahead before Dublin marathon.

rovers_runner

Trampas wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/dublin-marathon-2021-set-to-have-a-new-look-and-feel-1.4517073

Wonder what measures big city races are looking at now to ensure large fields?

- Outdoor expo - Marquee style in one end and out the other systems
- Splitting up each start wave to have multiple starts within the wave a couple of mins apart (20 mins per wave, 3 x 2 min between starts per wave)
- Multiple start locations to merge at point further up the road once field has settled, similar to NY & London.
- Masks till you cross the start line
- Bottles not cups on route

The finish area will be a tougher situation to manage, although I don't too many people with a virus are going to manage 26 miles.
- Multiple chutes from each medal queue just after finish line to spread out exits.
- Bag drop area should be ok if using multiple queues to filter people in and out

PCX

rovers_runner wrote: »

- Outdoor expo - Marquee style in one end and out the other systems

- Bottles not cups on route

I like going to expos but are they really necessary? Could they not just post all race numbers etc out this year?

I'm not sure why bottles instead of cups would be a covid prevention measure but I am all for it anyway! It is so much better grabbing a bottle of water which you can actually carry without spilling and sip from without stopping.

opus

Trampas wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/dublin-marathon-2021-set-to-have-a-new-look-and-feel-1.4517073

The great thing about this (from a purely personal view) is that I was supposed to be taking part last year with a friend so means I'll have to do some training for it. Wouldn't be much good at providing moral support if I couldn't manage the distance

Jakey Rolling

PCX wrote: »

I like going to expos but are they really necessary? Could they not just post all race numbers etc out this year?

I'm not sure why bottles instead of cups would be a covid prevention measure but I am all for it anyway! It is so much better grabbing a bottle of water which you can actually carry without spilling and sip from without stopping.

Even better, use the edible biodegradable pouches (seaweed extract) for water and sports drinks.

Grab a couple and you're sorted, no long term pollution if you drop them.