Dublin Marathon 2021

mutley18

Hi folks! What happens if you don't take the refund option now and then end up getting injured and unable to run in 2022? Can you defer to 2023 or is the entry just wasted?

rovers_runner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243147#Comment_118243147

I'd say there will be a window again early summer 2022 to pass on places given there weren't enough places left over for club/AI entries after the general ballot in early 2020.

Burkie1203

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243147#Comment_118243147

Does anyone actually think this will go ahead?

rovers_runner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118249206#Comment_118249206

Not if it's up to Jim anyway.

ISOP

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118249206#Comment_118249206

in 5 years time probably the way things are going in Ireland

rovers_runner

Postponement of DCM 2022 incoming....

event

Well good to see some people are delighted

rovers_runner

Genuinely though I do think they should reconsider moving to the summer given how we've gone so far backwards in the last month.

From reading Varadkars tone yesterday it seems they are loath to disagree with restrictions in winter. Limits on outdoor events void of scientific reasoning as it is seems to be, is still on the cards to be phased in and out along with other measures.

Can DCM afford another year of a non event without the status of the event being compromised?

robinph

DCM can't afford to plan to go ahead without some guarantees from the government. They are too small to swallow the costs themselves, but too big to be able to just wing it at the last moment without spending big in advance.

A temporary move to the end of August/ start of September could be a good idea for next year though. Still leaves them practically the same time to organise, weather less likely to be too hot, and less chance of getting caught up with another winter set of restrictions. They are no longer tied to the bank holiday Monday either now so moving the date is doable.

rovers_runner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118342425#Comment_118342425

They could even hold it in the park alone late August as they have a slot with the series.

Just means extending restrictions on roads for most of the day but doable with planning.

Would be easy manage from a start/finish point of view and also ensuring most spectators have to walk in there spreads out the crowds.

SeeMoreBut

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118343372#Comment_118343372

What route do you suggest in park? How many do you allow enter? How do you manage leading group getting through thousands of people lapping them

rovers_runner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118344340#Comment_118344340

You'd have to close the full park to traffic.

Left lane for lap one and lapped runners. Elites get right lane on subsequent laps.

Murph_D

That would definitely be the shittest marathon ever.

robinph

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118345182#Comment_118345182

I've signed up for a repeat of 5 laps around quiet country lanes again next April in order to try for my GFA time. That was pretty rubbish in 2020 running mostly alone for 3 hours in heavy rain. :)

rovers_runner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118345182#Comment_118345182

If it was left to the likes of you there won't be a marathon next year in Dublin.

SeeMoreBut

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118344759#Comment_118344759

Still what is your lap? Elites will be I guess 15km in before last person even starts even on short waves. So you’d have thousands of people filtering in a car width route?

FinnC

Sure why not just run it up and down the M50. Road is plenty wide 😜

Wottle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118344759#Comment_118344759

It's not a bad idea if they want to dig themselves out of a hole, run the event while disincentivising the average runner, therefore reducing the numbers.

Bit like Ryanair, run the event and no refunds.

I for one couldn't do a lapped marathon course and hopefully things improve for 2023

Murph_D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118345214#Comment_118345214

Nothing wrong with multi-lap races. I’ve done plenty of them too. They work well with small to medium numbers. But you can’t have a big mass market event (I presume that’s what’s being proposed) on a narrow course, especially one that would probably end up having to cross itself, Chaos. Numbers wise, the Dublin HM is about the limit of what you can do in the Phoenix Park. Even that is pushing it.

You could certainly have a small Phoenix Park marathon. But not a big mass market Dublin Marathon in the park.

rovers_runner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118345595#Comment_118345595

You could go with similar to the half route from 2012-2019.

It usually only covered the same ground for a mile or less. Surely with more use of Farmleigh grounds it could lead to a full lap without retracing your steps.

Scaling up numbers X 4 is the obvious challenge though.

2012 for example

Murph_D

That route uses most of the roads in the park and still has to leave the park twice to get in the HM distance. There's no way you're going to find another 13 miles in there, Farmleigh or no. You could add a lap of the zoo (that would be pretty cool actually) but you're nowhere near avoiding a 2 lap route, so you can't avoid the route crossing itself. You also have a problem there with the Finish area being surrounded by the course. The last few HMs there you had finishers interfering with the race at the junction of Furze Road and Chesterfield, trying to get back to their cars while people were still running. You could change that finish area, but not many available areas left, and they have to be at the city end of the park to be viable. The Phoenix Park is a fantastic place to run but it's not big enough for the kind of marathon we are talking about here.

franciscanpunk

Would be very surprised to see it happening in 2022 or 2023 and would be even more surprised if they tried to pull a different route like running 4 laps of the park, numbers just too big .

Hoping to find another event of similar size in England as i like the idea of a september or october run, can do the training in the summer

The Davestator

Absolutely no reason it couldn't have went ahead this year in October so not sure why people are so pessimistic about next year?

rovers_runner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118355703#Comment_118355703

As we speak the muppets who run Wales are putting sporting events behind closed doors.

DCM should have went ahead this year, surely, it will be Jim's legacy and he has decided it himself. The only big city marathon in western Europe which didn't go ahead this autumn.

MrMacPhisto

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118355801#Comment_118355801

Frankfurt comes to mind. I'm sure there were more. Hopefully Dublin will happen in 2022, and lots of other races too.

FinnC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118356183#Comment_118356183

Seems to me there are some that would love it not to happen just so they could complain about it not happening…

MrMacPhisto

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118356221#Comment_118356221

Man shouts at cloud type stuff 😂

rovers_runner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118356221#Comment_118356221

The only people who would love it to not happen are the hide under the bed types, there are quite a few on here though surprisingly.

Middle aged men with public service jobs, a lethal combination for pontificating to the rest of who have still lived in the real world since March 2020.

ger664

Move it to the August Bank Holiday Sunday

pc11

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118356579#Comment_118356579

Middle aged public servant here, also known as a front-line worker.

Almost all front-line workers are public servants: doctors, nurses, gardai, ambulance, lab techs, fire service and all the rest. I've been working in the health service every day since the pandemic began, treating sick people and making decisions every few minutes that could save or take a life. What have you been doing? What have you done to help in the pandemic? Have you ever made a decision affecting thousands before? Or even one person's life? Or do you just rant online? You seem to have a fair bit of pontificating to do yourself and lots of time to do it in.

For 20 months I have worked in the front-line, slept, and trained when I can and very little else. I wear PPE and worry I'll get sick or make others sick. I stayed away from most of my family as much as possible. I've posted less than a dozen times on boards.ie in that time I'd say. You seem to post that many times every day. And when you do post, it's nothing but childish and bitchy sh1te. What do you get from this exactly? Do you not have anything else in your life?

I want the marathon to go ahead. I don't want it in August (are you fcking kidding me??) In fact, I can't recall anyone actually wanting it to be cancelled. Anyone even discussing that is doing so because they DON'T want it cancelled. We all want life back to normal. We all want races and family and travel as normal.

But, yeah, clearly I am the problem.

rovers_runner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118368861#Comment_118368861

pc11

Dear rovers_runner, please do NOT send me private messages, thanks.

Especially messages that could be read as a veiled threat. That's just childish and silly.

Can you block people on here?

rovers_runner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118370006#Comment_118370006

event

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118355801#Comment_118355801

Did Jim piss in your cornflakes or steal your lunch money?

rovers_runner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118371610#Comment_118371610

Good one... Happy Christmas.

DarHan84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117832214#Comment_117832214

Hello from the future!! You were correct!!!

rovers_runner

What have we here....

Highlights include people falling over themselves to outdo each other with virtue signalling, a money grabbing gp who lined his pockets acting the hero, funny how covid disappeared overnight once the world realised it had real problems.

While of course gp's around the country continue to do as they please and refuse to take on new patients.

Worth noting though that Dublin was 1 of only 2 big city marathon cancelled last Autumn, also one in Netherlands I think it was.