Guinness Surger

Thundercats Ho

The sooner they're released by Guinness the better. Some places are charging crazy prices.
They're available on https://clickadrink.ie/product/guinness-surger-can-single-520ml-can/ for €3.20 per can.

When you factor in shipping, it comes to €3.50 per can, if ordering a slab.
Seems way OTT imo.

celt262

Thundercats Ho wrote: »

The sooner they're released by Guinness the better. Some places are charging crazy prices.
They're available on https://clickadrink.ie/product/guinness-surger-can-single-520ml-can/ for €3.20 per can.

When you factor in shipping, it comes to €3.50 per can, if ordering a slab.
Seems way OTT imo.

I can get them for €2.46 a can but i will be collecting them myself.

Hopefully Guinness will get the finger out and we can get them easier.

Thundercats Ho

https://twitter.com/dublinbypub/status/1374007801194934282?s=20

L1011

Philips Sonicares are ultrasonic come to think of it - that just looks like an oscillating one.

Tazz T

Shouldn't this be in the Coronavirus forum? I've unfollowed the general Coronavirus thread and now following this instead.

celt262

Tazz T wrote: »

Shouldn't this be in the Coronavirus forum? I've unfollowed the general Coronavirus thread and now following this instead.

Which will you get first the vaccine or the cans ? :pac:

ec18

celt262 wrote: »

Which will you get first the vaccine or the cans ? :pac:

The cans

Tazz T

celt262 wrote: »

Which will you get first the vaccine or the cans ? :pac:

Whatever is available first.

Maybe the ones from the UK will throw in a free batch of Astra with every slab bought.

Seeing as theres one place in the south selling the cans, I've bit the bullet on a Ultrasonic cleaner from Amazon.De.

Sure the cans are dear, but a proper pint is still a few months away. I'll just ration some cans into the rotation along with the normal cans and get longer out of them.

Will hopefully get to try one Friday week.

frankled

Got my ultrasonic cleaner from Amazon.es yesterday- this one.

Fits a regular old-fashioned pint class, 500ml old-fashioned glass, and a newer gravity glass (540ml) bought from Lidl. It's a model that an Instragram page person has used. I'm going to try it with normal cans on Friday- that page have a few posts on how you can use a normal can without activating the widget.

I probably need my head checked, but it's only forty euro or so for the jewellery cleaner and sure what else is there to be doing.

Placed an order on the clickanddrink site above.

Received another email a while after saying:
"We have received your back order for Guinness Surger cans on our website Clickadrink.ie, we are just letting you know that we have been updated by our supplier that we should expect our next delivery by the 12th April. Your order is on the back order file for this stock and will be despatched as soon as we get the product".

They had them listed as being in stock.
Secondly if they dont have any, why not send someone up north in a van, they're getting a good price for them as it is.

FromADistance

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Placed an order on the clickanddrink site above.

Received another email a while after saying:
"We have received your back order for Guinness Surger cans on our website Clickadrink.ie, we are just letting you know that we have been updated by our supplier that we should expect our next delivery by the 12th April. Your order is on the back order file for this stock and will be despatched as soon as we get the product".

They had them listed as being in stock.
Secondly if they dont have any, why not send someone up north in a van, they're getting a good price for them as it is.

At nearly 80 quid for a slab before delivery they can f**k right off. Would pay you to put diesel in the car yourself and venture North.

FromADistance

FromADistance wrote: »

At nearly 80 quid for a slab before delivery they can f**k right off. Would pay you to put diesel in the car yourself and venture North.

Its grand for those around Dublin, it's only an hour(or someone willing to do a run is easier to find due to proximity).
For those of us nearly three hours away, its too much of a commitment and would take the guts of a day off to do it.

Suckit

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Its grand for those around Dublin, it's only an hour(or someone willing to do a run is easier to find due to proximity).
For those of us nearly three hours away, its too much of a commitment and would take the guts of a day off to do it.

I have a friend who works in Diageo, he's not close to any senior position, He was part time until 2019. He has been looking for the cans and he says that there are rumours rife within the walls he works that they are coming here soon. Maybe around €55 per case through legit stores when it does. :eek:


He doesn't know if there will be a surger unit on sale, but it would make more sense that there would be.

irish_goat

Would be stupid not to sell a surger unit, they can make a few quid off it and if branded nicely, they can have something that will sit in someone's kitchen as a permanent advertisement for their beer. There's very few brands in the world could even dream of that.

L1011

irish_goat wrote: »

they can have something that will sit in someone's kitchen as a permanent advertisement for their beer. There's very few brands in the world could even dream of that.

At least since the end of it being acceptable to give out branded ashtrays. Fairly sure the one my parents have on the garden table for is still a now rather UV damaged Tennants one from the 1980s.

BeerNut

L1011 wrote: »

At least since the end of it being acceptable to give out branded ashtrays.

Doesn't everyone have at least one stolen Guinness pint glass? Everyone apart from me, obviously

L1011

BeerNut wrote: »

Doesn't everyone have at least one stolen Guinness pint glass? Everyone apart from me, obviously

A stolen Guinness pint glass (from Browns Barn, RIP) was left in my house by a mate who was working for the same company as me, when we shared a taxi back from the Christmas party and he was busting to use the jacks. Sculled the remaining, presumably very warm pint, and left the glass on the cistern.

So I have one, but I'm only handling stolen goods rather than the thief :pac:

DuffleBag

Video doing the rounds of an auld lad using a cheap aul electric toothbrush into the glass to activate it and it worked a treat.

irish_goat

DuffleBag wrote: »

Video doing the rounds of an auld lad using a cheap aul electric toothbrush into the glass to activate it and it worked a treat.

Featured here a few posts back.

Thundercats Ho wrote: »

https://twitter.com/dublinbypub/status/1374007801194934282?s=20

DuffleBag

irish_goat wrote: »

Featured here a few posts back.

Ah my bad, twitter blocked here at work so didn't see it

Tazz T

BeerNut wrote: »

Doesn't everyone have at least one stolen Guinness pint glass? Everyone apart from me, obviously

They don't last long. Why on earth do they make beer receptacles from such a breakable material?

BeerNut

Just get one of these. There are probably Guinness-branded ones.

What’s in the surger can that makes this work anyway? Like why can’t you throw poured can of smithwicks in the jewellery cleaner and do the same thing with it?

BeerNut

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

What’s in the surger can that makes this work anyway?

Nitrogen, dissolved in the beer. When you dissolve carbon dioxide in beer, it will come out of solution once the pressure is released -- that's what fizz is: the CO2 moving from a place of high concentration (the beer) to a place of low concentration (the air).

But if you use nitrogen instead, air is already mostly nitrogen, so it's not going to move anywhere when the pressure is released. It needs to be agitated in order to get it to move. The restrictor plate on a nitro draught tap, the widget in a can, the hard pour, and the ultrasonic surger are all ways of shaking up the beer to encourage the nitrogen out of solution.

BeerNut

BeerNut wrote: »

Nitrogen, dissolved in the beer. When you dissolve carbon dioxide in beer, it will come out of solution once the pressure is released -- that's what fizz is: the CO2 moving from a place of high concentration (the beer) to a place of low concentration (the air).

But if you use nitrogen instead, air is already mostly nitrogen, so it's not going to move anywhere when the pressure is released. It needs to be agitated in order to get it to move. The restrictor plate on a nitro draught tap, the widget in a can, the hard pour, and the ultrasonic surger are all ways of shaking up the beer to encourage the nitrogen out of solution.

Would it have resurrected my Hope nitro that had no head on it? Wish I’d tried it now.

BeerNut

No idea. If there wasn't enough nitrogen in it in the first place, no amount of ultrasonic agitation will make a difference.

Thundercats Ho

The hope nitro I had poured a little better than say a xxxx Porterhouse (which is full of life), so i'd imagine the surger unit would help.
I have a can of hope left and may try it at the weekend.

Thundercats Ho

So, the ultrasonic cleaner I ordered off an Irish website actually came from China and is a heap of ****e...
It made no difference to a Guinness or the hope nitro.

Rather than have a wasted beer, I tried the toothbrush like the auld fella in the video.
It worked perfectly with both!

Back to the drawing board for a unit now...

EagererBeaver

Thundercats Ho wrote: »

So, the ultrasonic cleaner I ordered off an Irish website actually came from China and is a heap of ****e...
It made no difference to a Guinness or the hope nitro.

Rather than have a wasted beer, I tried the toothbrush like the auld fella in the video.
It worked perfectly with both!

Back to the drawing board for a unit now...

Did you put the water in the cleaner...? Have read a few people forgetting to do it.

Thundercats Ho

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Did you put the water in the cleaner...? Have read a few people forgetting to do it.

Yea, I followed the instructions in the videos alright.
It may have been damaged in transit. Small bit of a rattle inside it.

It was off Fruggo, not sure what they're like for returns.

Very disappointed..

BigAl81

Thundercats Ho wrote:

Very disappointed..

I think it has to vibrate at a certain minimum frequency to work. Something like 42 KHz or above.

I don't think those beer foamers work with the Guinness cans.

celt262

Suckit wrote: »

This is the one I got fast shipping.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33055876680.html


EDITED
The Ultrasonic Cleaners on Amazon - https://www.hagglezon.com/en/s/ultrasonic%20cleaner[/url

How long did it take to get to you?

Thundercats Ho

BigAl81 wrote: »

I think it has to vibrate at a certain minimum frequency to work. Something like 42 KHz or above.

I don't think those beer foamers work with the Guinness cans.

Mine is 40khz, maybe that's why.

Suckit

celt262 wrote: »

How long did it take to get to you?

I think less than 2 weeks. Can't remember exactly, but it was quick.


EDIT - Ordered late Monday night arrived the next week Wednesday.

mgray

BigAl81 wrote: »

I think it has to vibrate at a certain minimum frequency to work. Something like 42 KHz or above.

I hope not, currently waiting on unit from amazon that's 40KHz.. 😬

BigAl81

Humm, 40khz should be close enough I'd have thought? I'm no expert tho and just saw it on a YouTube comment somewhere that 42 plus was the number to aim for.

Thundercats Ho

Yea, i'd have thought it'd do the job too.
It does vibrate, but doesn't agitate the beer even 1%.

It's possible mine is a dud. I plan to return it, and have ordered a 43 Khz one from GB, and it's due here on Saturday.

devlad

Think I got the same one from Fruggo. Is it the blue one, mine wasn't the one i ordered so hopefully they will refund me.

Thundercats Ho

I ordered


This arrived

celt262

Thundercats Ho wrote: »

I ordered


This arrived

Looks like a baby bottle sterliser.

devlad

celt262 wrote: »

Looks like a baby bottle sterliser.

Thats the same as me, €30 but reluctant to buy another

MarkN

Serious false advertising with that unit - I know someone else who took delivery of one this week.

This is the one I have (it's gone up in price though).

https://www.hifi-tower.ie/Home-Living/Kitchen-Appliances/Kitchen-utensils-gadgets/Superpure-Ultrasonic-Cleaner-Glasses-Cleaner-Black-Black.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwjPaCBhDkARIsAISZN7ROLbdzjoX14wsH-O5yTAlyiRDgP2O4gcL1irKZabaM-ecNnkF_HFkaAkXmEALw_wcB
This is also a good one!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/FLOUREON-Ultrasonic-Stainless-Professional-Eyeglasses-600ml/dp/B0744GDJ3C/ref=asc_df_B0744GDJ3C/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309816033027&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8594659047361450089&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007850&hvtargid=pla-563231558784&psc=1

Suckit

Thundercats Ho wrote: »

I ordered


This arrived

devlad wrote: »

Thats the same as me, €30 but reluctant to buy another

Surely they have refund policy? Do Fruugo use paypal?

mfceiling

Mate of mine is engaged to a girl in Belfast but works in Dublin Monday to Friday. Was going to start bringing trays of this down with him.
Is there still much interest in them here?

BeerNut

mfceiling wrote: »

Is there still much interest in them here?

The Gardaí would deffo be interested. Revenue too, I'd say.

EagererBeaver

BeerNut wrote: »

The Gardaí would deffo be interested. Revenue too, I'd say.

I'd say the gardaí wouldn't give the slightest **** to be honest with you.

SteM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

I'd say the gardaí wouldn't give the slightest **** to be honest with you.

They might if they're Guinness drinkers.

So Clickadrink have actually increased the price of the Surger cans.

An increase in price despite the fact they don't have any stock, or will for a few weeks.

I won't be buying at €3.60 anyway so will have to source an alternative angle.... I suppose when we get back to normal I could go up north for a night/weekend instead of picking somewhere south and stock up heavy.

MarkN

Not sure where you're based obviously but an overnight may not be necessary, it's 10 mins over the border.