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General race thread 2021 **spoilers**

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    #512
    dahat
    Registered Users Posts: 16,784 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Alaphillipe is a bad place now for me, no way Asgreen beats the other two in any form of effort for race win.


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    #513
    retalivity
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    Unless Alaphillipe thinks he can bridge across on the kwaremont, getting a free lift until then anyway


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    #514
    retalivity
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    The power from MVDP!


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    #515
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    I love this race. I love all the protagonists.

    What a treat


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    #516
    retalivity
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    Asgreen's gonna have to try something here...


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    #517
    [Deleted User]
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    Wow


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    #518
    neris
    Registered Users Posts: 20,054 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Talk about blowing up. That's gota hurt


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    #519
    retalivity
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    Fair fcuks Asgreen!


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    #520
    dahat
    Registered Users Posts: 16,784 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Well I was wrong!


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    #521
    dastardly00
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    dahat wrote: »
    Well I was wrong!

    I think you, me, and everyone in the world except Asgreen!!


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    #522
    dastardly00
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    The bouquet of vegetables from Lidl for the winner... That's hilarious!! :pac:


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    #523
    ednwireland
    Registered Users Posts: 14,391 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    dastardly00 wrote: »
    The bouquet of vegetables from Lidl for the winner... That's hilarious!! :pac:

    brilliant marketing !

    great win. you could hear van der pols legs pop there

    womens race now !

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



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    #524
    [Deleted User]
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    Starting to split a little now, still 50km to go.


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    #525
    retalivity
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    dastardly00 wrote: »
    The bouquet of vegetables from Lidl for the winner... That's hilarious!! :pac:

    https://twitter.com/RondeVlaanderen/status/1378723503826989062


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    #526
    ednwireland
    Registered Users Posts: 14,391 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    how does van vluetin keep doing that. the strength to ride away and stay 10s in front. remember watching her 100km solo run in 2019 worlds in Yorkshire.

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



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    #527
    [Deleted User]
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    Sounded like Trek had some rubbish tactics if what Longo Borghini said in her interview was correct. She was told to wait for Diegnan.


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    #528
    budgie001
    Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭budgie001


    Men’s Ronde finish:I feel the top spot sprint stunk to high heaven. The race was soooo bought. Is the sponsorship up for renewal in Quick Step by any chance. Just can’t buy it and I think the lethargic afters commentary didn’t either.


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    #529
    breezy1985
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    budgie001 wrote: »
    Men’s Ronde finish:I feel the top spot sprint stunk to high heaven. The race was soooo bought. Is the sponsorship up for renewal in Quick Step by any chance. Just can’t buy it and I think the lethargic afters commentary didn’t either.

    This isn't the 80s and of all people Van der Poel would have no reason to need the cash over another monument win


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    #530
    budgie001
    Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭budgie001


    Vinkourov and kolobnev was 2010 for a monument buy out. Not that long ago


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    #531
    Weepsie
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    budgie001 wrote: »
    Men’s Ronde finish:I feel the top spot sprint stunk to high heaven. The race was soooo bought. Is the sponsorship up for renewal in Quick Step by any chance. Just can’t buy it and I think the lethargic afters commentary didn’t either.

    If you're going to make stupid accusations like this again, expect to be carded. His third major win (second this season), is a very decent time trialist and classics specialist , finished 2nd in 2019 and 8 seconds back in October.

    But yeah, it's fixed. Careful now.


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    #532
    breezy1985
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    budgie001 wrote: »
    Vinkourov and kolobnev was 2010 for a monument buy out. Not that long ago

    I know I was being a little dramatic there.
    Kolobnev was a fair bit dodgier and lower profile than MvdP though. If it was someone else I might entertain the idea but he has no reason whatsoever to be doing deals like that.

    Thing about 2010 is Vinokourov probably would have been favorite or the 2 anyway but wanted to be sure which is very different to Asgreen. Also a number of people commented on the fact that MvdP had done too much work way back in the race


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    #533
    budgie001
    Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭budgie001


    Weepsie wrote: »
    If you're going to make stupid accusations like this again, expect to be carded. His third major win (second this season), is a very decent time trialist and classics specialist , finished 2nd in 2019 and 8 seconds back in October.

    But yeah, it's fixed. Careful now.

    Heavy handed much?
    Never said it was fixed.

    However ones need (quick step sponsorship) so much more than the other ( impressive team spring campaign) . It’s not coming from my pocket as no interest, if anything only admiration for VDP but about 300m out you will notice VDP in a mid cassette sprocket , not exactly a 53*12 in calm conditions and no change in gearing, so busy pedalling but not powering away. Asgren is a very impressive rider but no sprinter. It’s not adding up to me nor is the lacklustre celebrations and commiserations. I’m not sure why I can’t have this opinion?


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    #534
    CantGetNoSleep
    Registered Users Posts: 7,251 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    budgie001 wrote: »
    Heavy handed much?
    Never said it was fixed.

    However ones need (quick step sponsorship) so much more than the other ( impressive team spring campaign) . It’s not coming from my pocket as no interest, if anything only admiration for VDP but about 300m out you will notice VDP in a mid cassette sprocket , not exactly a 53*12 in calm conditions and no change in gearing, so busy pedalling but not powering away. Asgren is a very impressive rider but no sprinter. It’s not adding up to me nor is the lacklustre celebrations and commiserations. I’m not sure why I can’t have this opinion?

    What is the difference between fixed and stinking to high heaven?


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    #535
    budgie001
    Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭budgie001


    Fixed implies a pre defined result. Stinks in this situation to me means that when it became very clear that the front two were to stay away that quick step badly needed the win for commercial reasons, and considering they were up against VDP in a two up with very much the outsider that deals can be done to assure the win.you can’t do that 100km out in a bunch. Hence not fixed


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    #536
    Dodge
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    budgie001 wrote: »
    Fixed implies a pre defined result. Stinks in this situation to me means that when it became very clear that the front two were to stay away that quick step badly needed the win for commercial reasons, and considering they were up against VDP in a two up with very much the outsider that deals can be done to assure the win.you can’t do that 100km out in a bunch. Hence not fixed

    Ah here, quick step win more races than anyone. They don’t ‘badly need’ any win

    You’re spouting nonsense here


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    #537
    budgie001
    Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭budgie001


    For a Belgian team Flanders is everything , Paris Roubaix is second and the rest just don’t compare even though I love the the other 1 day races. I’ve seen Flanders in the flesh twice it’s incredibly big. It is 10all ireland finals rolled into 1. 1.1m normally on the road side.


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    #538
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    budgie001 wrote: »
    Men’s Ronde finish:I feel the top spot sprint stunk to high heaven. The race was soooo bought. Is the sponsorship up for renewal in Quick Step by any chance. Just can’t buy it and I think the lethargic afters commentary didn’t either.

    Are you for ****ing real? As green was brilliant.

    The race was fantastic from about 100km out. One of the best classics in years. Van Der Poel, Aliphillipe and Wout van Aert all attacked and Asgreen only marked moves.

    Asgreen rode the perfect race against the best one day riders of their generation. Give the man some credit.

    Such a brillianr open race. I can't believe anyone thinks that drunk.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #539
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    budgie001 wrote: »
    Heavy handed much?
    Never said it was fixed.

    However ones need (quick step sponsorship) so much more than the other ( impressive team spring campaign) . It’s not coming from my pocket as no interest, if anything only admiration for VDP but about 300m out you will notice VDP in a mid cassette sprocket , not exactly a 53*12 in calm conditions and no change in gearing, so busy pedalling but not powering away. Asgren is a very impressive rider but no sprinter. It’s not adding up to me nor is the lacklustre celebrations and commiserations. I’m not sure why I can’t have this opinion?

    You're talking through your hole.

    MVDP was done. He had given it everything. Have some respect

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #540
    budgie001
    Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭budgie001


    A little shocked at the abuse here. I haven’t criticised , swore , called anyone stupid (a mod ) etc in any of my posts or replies, incl Asgren who rode extremely well. I simply think that that VDPdidnt give it all in the sprint, and perhaps other forces at play in his ear. Can I just think that and speak it? Without the pitchforks out. It’s not like we have this Uber whiter than white sport


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    #541
    Weepsie
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    budgie001 wrote: »
    Heavy handed much?
    Never said it was fixed.

    However ones need (quick step sponsorship) so much more than the other ( impressive team spring campaign) . It’s not coming from my pocket as no interest, if anything only admiration for VDP but about 300m out you will notice VDP in a mid cassette sprocket , not exactly a 53*12 in calm conditions and no change in gearing, so busy pedalling but not powering away. Asgren is a very impressive rider but no sprinter. It’s not adding up to me nor is the lacklustre celebrations and commiserations. I’m not sure why I can’t have this opinion?

    Because stating so in writing with zero proof is libellous.

    Drop it now, or take a holiday.


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