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Right wing extremist group behind Dublin Protest say Gardai

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    #572
    SouthWesterly
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    AGS have the guy who fired the firework. Known to the gardai.

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/gardai-arrest-man-30-on-suspicion-of-throwing-firework-at-anti-lockdown-protest-40149157.html


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    #573
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Great news. Hopefully he’ll get the book thrown at him.

    He's not going to get the "book thrown at him".

    He launched a few screamers towards Garda. Yes, he's an idiot who came out for some trouble with the Garda specifically (who have nothing to do with government lockdown decisions, the point of the protest). Was he intending to kill anyone? Obviously not, as fireworks would hardly be your weapon of choice for that.

    He'll get a fine and suspended sentence, I imagine. Possibly a 1-2 year sentence if the courts want to make an example of him.


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    #574
    ohnonotgmail
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    He's not going to get the "book thrown at him".

    He launched a few screamers towards Garda. Yes, he's an idiot who came out for some trouble with the Garda specifically (who have nothing to do with government lockdown decisions, the point of the protest). Was he intending to kill anyone? Obviously not, as fireworks would hardly be your weapon of choice for that.

    He'll get a fine and suspended sentence, I imagine. Possibly a 1-2 year sentence if the courts want to make an example of him.

    a custodial sentence would be entirely appropriate. deliberately trying to injure a gardai should be treated harshly.


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    #575
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    a custodial sentence would be entirely appropriate. deliberately trying to injure a gardai should be treated harshly.

    But like, he fired it into the air..

    He wasn't trying to injure anyone..(was a bit of a tit though..)


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    #576
    dan1895
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    But like, he fired it into the air..

    He wasn't trying to injure anyone..(was a bit of a tit though..)

    The air in the horizontal space between himself and the Guard's head maybe.


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    #577
    ohnonotgmail
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    But like, he fired it into the air..

    he fired it horizontally in the video i seen.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    He wasn't trying to injure anyone..(was a bit of a tit though..)
    you have no way of knowing that.


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    #578
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    he fired it horizontally in the video i seen.


    you have no way of knowing that.

    But like, you have no way of proving he was trying to injure someone either..the video evidence would suggest he was just being an idiot..and perhaps trying to incite something moreso than anything else, but hardly trying to injure a guard..


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    #579
    MrStuffins
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    But like, he fired it into the air..

    Just when you thought the level of denial couldn't get any worse...........


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    #580
    ohnonotgmail
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    But like, you have no way of proving he was trying to injure someone either..the video evidence would suggest he was just being an idiot..and perhaps trying to incite something moreso than anything else, but hardly trying to injure a guard..

    discharging it in the direction of the gardai is pretty solid proof that he intended to injure them. Unless you think he wanted to tickle them?


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    #581
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    Can I be clear here, I'm not defending the lad, but I just think saying he was trying to injure a guard is a stretch, and there's enough bending the truth going on..


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    #582
    gmisk
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    But like, he fired it into the air..

    He wasn't trying to injure anyone..(was a bit of a tit though..)
    Come on....are you joking?
    You don't normally fire a rocket horizontally.....do you?
    It was fired while pointed at a gardai...


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    #583
    gmisk
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Can I be clear here, I'm not defending the lad, but I just think saying he was trying to injure a guard is a stretch, and there's enough bending the truth going on..
    Why else would you light and point a firework at a gardai? Is it to entertain them or what? Ffs...


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    #584
    francois
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Can I be clear here, I'm not defending the lad, but I just think saying he was trying to injure a guard is a stretch, and there's enough bending the truth going on..

    There is always a "but"


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    #585
    [Deleted User]
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    But like, he fired it into the air..

    He wasn't trying to injure anyone..(was a bit of a tit though..)

    You are like that guy earlier in the thread who said the Garda who bashed the other Garda with a baton was trying to "remove a firework from his leg" or some other such nonsensical excuse.

    Just shows how the far left and the far right are indeed very similar.


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    #586
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    Ok, just watched it again..ok, maybe, but he wasn't aiming at anyone like..his head was down..

    There was definitely an over reaction..they just laced into the crowd giving anyone they could a belt..


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    #587
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    a custodial sentence would be entirely appropriate. deliberately trying to injure a gardai should be treated harshly.

    I wouldn't disagree with that. Again, Garda have nothing to do with government decision making re: Covid restrictions.

    Why wasn't the protest up outside the Dail anyway, where it should have been? Area closed off for the day?


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    #588
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    francois wrote: »
    There is always a "but"

    ???..

    Jesus Christ..


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    #589
    ohnonotgmail
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Can I be clear here, I'm not defending the lad, but I just think saying he was trying to injure a guard is a stretch, and there's enough bending the truth going on..

    no stretching required. your attempt to downplay it is bizarre.


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    #590
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    no stretching required. your attempt to downplay it is bizarre.

    But like, is your attempt to exaggerate it not bizarre too?..


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    #591
    ohnonotgmail
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    But like, is your attempt to exaggerate it not bizarre too?..

    no exaggeration. He deliberately aimed a firework at gardai. that has the potential to injure people. time in custody is definitely warranted. I'm beginning to think he is a friend of yours.


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    #592
    Mad_maxx
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    expectationlost wrote: »
    you can try to pull in these other social issues, to make yourself look smart, but the more mass gatherings like this there are, the longer the lockdown will be.

    Mass protesting virus lockdowns is stupid.

    politicians don't listen to protest, they listen to rich people, a lot of whom also want the lockdowns to end, lots of whom are on the far right.

    they tell you to contact your TD if you want to express a view or impact politics (in between election time), but if you haven't and won't ever vote for the TDs in the large government parties, you can't threaten to not vote for them unless they do X because you never did and never will. They know that. So they don't care about your views.

    which " rich people " are on the far right ?


    rich people dont tend to be stupid and its stupid to believe one race is superior to another which is about the only common far right belief nowadays , i doubt anyone who identifies as far right in ireland wants gas chambers built for non whites ? , they probably want all non whites deported but anyone to the right of Leo Varadkar gets branded " far right " by the chattering classes in 2021


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    #593
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Can I be clear here, I'm not defending the lad, but I just think saying he was trying to injure a guard is a stretch, and there's enough bending the truth going on..

    I take it that you didn’t see the video? He aimed it at the Gardai.

    I wonder how the protester is that was hit by the second shot? He went down very quickly.


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    #594
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    gmisk wrote: »
    Why else would you light and point a firework at a gardai? Is it to entertain them or what? Ffs...

    Absolutely to entertain them. Who doesn't enjoy a large firework launched directly at them ?


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    #595
    MrStuffins
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Can I be clear here, I'm not defending the lad

    Erm........
    Deleted User wrote: »
    But like, he fired it into the air..
    Deleted User wrote: »
    He wasn't trying to injure anyone.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    But like, you have no way of proving he was trying to injure someone
    Deleted User wrote: »
    but hardly trying to injure a guard..

    Yes you are.

    Embarrassing!


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    #596
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    no exaggeration. He deliberately aimed a firework at gardai. that has the potential to injure people. time in custody is definitely warranted. I'm beginning to think he is a friend of yours.

    I'm beginning to suspect 4D chess level trolling here. I guess though it's as believable as calling what happened on Saturday "riots" .


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    #597
    gmisk
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    But like, is your attempt to exaggerate it not bizarre too?..
    That poster didn't exaggerate...they stated what happened in the video.


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    #598
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I'm beginning to suspect 4D chess level trolling here. I guess though it's as believable as calling what happened on Saturday "riots" .

    Meanwhile the government and lads at the top all laughing their ass off at these people arguing with each other about the far-left and far-right in Ireland.

    Perfect distraction from their own ineptitude.


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    #599
    gmisk
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Absolutely to entertain them. Who doesn't enjoy a large firework launched directly at them ?
    Come on....would you?....
    This is basically poor trolling at this stage.


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    #600
    DerekC16
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    Youd see worse on a Halloween night in rough parts of Dublin. No ones getting custodial sentences over it though.


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    #601
    MrStuffins
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    DerekC16 wrote: »
    Youd see worse on a Halloween night in rough parts of Dublin. No ones getting custodial sentences over it though.

    I hope you're not his barrister


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