Right wing extremist group behind Dublin Protest say Gardai

Fake Scores

DerekC16 wrote: »

Youd see worse on a Halloween night in rough parts of Dublin. No ones getting custodial sentences over it though.

Are you saying he's going to be let off?

MrStuffins

Fake Scores wrote: »

Are you saying he's going to be let off?

Boom boom!

Fake Scores

MrStuffins wrote: »

Boom boom!

A little humour helps defuse the tension.

seamus

Ah here. Guy lights the firework and then runs towards the line of Gardai, pointing it directly at them before it goes off.

"He wasn't really firing at the Gardai, like".

Fake Scores

seamus wrote: »

Ah here. Guy lights the firework and then runs towards the line of Gardai, pointing it directly at them before it goes off.

"He wasn't really firing at the Gardai, like".

As well as an assault (3/4 NFOAP) I guess he'll probably also be
charged with Affray. Which can carry a sentence of up to five years if heard in the
circuit court.
He'll probably get a year in jail.

MrStuffins

seamus wrote: »

Ah here. Guy lights the firework and then runs towards the line of Gardai, pointing it directly at them before it goes off.

"He wasn't really firing at the Gardai, like".

Some lads in this thread if anyone points out anything negative about Saturday's protest

Mad_maxx

the guy who pegged the firework absolutely deserves jail time

Invidious

MrStuffins wrote: »

Some lads in this thread if anyone points out anything negative about Saturday's protest

The so-called "protest" was a utter disgrace and I don't condone anything that happened there.

The only thing I and others are questioning is whether the thugs and yobs who gathered on Saturday constitute a "far-right extremist group," as is being claimed ... or whether they were just a mob of disgruntled troublemakers.

I strongly suspect the latter.

There's a concerted effort in the government/media/NGO space to convince the public that Ireland has a major and growing problem with far-right extremism. I don't buy it. Outside of a handful of fringe figures, there is no meaningful "far right" in Ireland — but what does exist is an effort to portray anyone who raises concerns about the progressive leftist agenda as "the far right." It's an attempt to bully and censor people into silence.

Necro

Deleted User wrote: »

But like, he fired it into the air..

He wasn't trying to injure anyone..(was a bit of a tit though..)

Mod:

Don't post in this thread again

MrStuffins

Invidious wrote: »

The so-called "protest" was a utter disgrace and I don't condone anything that happened there.

The only thing I and others are questioning is whether the thugs and yobs who gathered on Saturday constitute a "far-right extremist group," as is being claimed ... or whether they were just a mob of disgruntled troublemakers.

As I said before, those behind this gathering knowingly invited this element to the demonstration. They are a strong part of the support for these people.

It's one and the same.

Birneybau

MrStuffins wrote: »

As I said before, those behind this gathering knowingly invited this element to the demonstration. They are a strong part of the support for these people.

It's one and the same.

Look at the gang that hang around Rowan Croft.

seamus

seamus wrote: »

Ah here. Guy lights the firework and then runs towards the line of Gardai, pointing it directly at them before it goes off.

"He wasn't really firing at the Gardai, like".

He was a thug no doubt and there were right wingers at the protest.

It’s probably a mistake to call everybody who is anti lockdown far right.

nj27

I think, while futile, the protest at the weekend could provide some insight on plans for future events. A beard stroking Facebook tactician, much akin to Jan Zizka complete with eyepatch, might observe that a Spartan phalanx could be created using large placards which could be ushered to the front once the gardai draw their defensive lines. Once this is in place the outer edges could begin to press forward while the centre falls back in an act of feigned retreat. Once this process has begun it will slowly create a complete circle around the gardai, whereupon they can be sternly lectured regarding the connection between 5G and COVID-19, then released to propagate this doctrine through the ranks, ultimately causing the complete collapse of the new world order.

Invidious

MrStuffins wrote: »

As I said before, those behind this gathering knowingly invited this element to the demonstration. They are a strong part of the support for these people.

It's one and the same.

How do you know who invited whom to the demonstration? What's your evidence that this protest was masterminded by an alleged "far-right extremist group"? Can we actually name this group or any of the people who allegedly lead it?

It's not hard to get people onto the streets at this time, given the level of frustration that exists among the general public after almost a year of lockdown. Thousands participated in violent protests in Italy and the Netherlands — including many all-purpose troublemakers unaffiliated with any "-group" or "-wing." But here, protests are being held up as evidence of a growing far-right extremist movement in Ireland, which I think is nonsense.

MrStuffins

MrStuffins wrote: »

As I said before, those behind this gathering knowingly invited this element to the demonstration. They are a strong part of the support for these people.

It's one and the same.

Naw. That would paint every protest where the socialist workers party turned up as Trotskyite. And they turned up for the opening of an envelope.

I don’t see the point of this except self righteousness. And all it does is push people into the far right. Crying wolf etc. Wise old proverb.

Dyr

I believe you were trying to make a point about bad faith arguments and guilt by association when you immediately followed up with this doozy:

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

B
It's a 'guilt by association' tactic used by pseudo-intellectuals from the reactionary circuit. Oh you want universal healthcare? You're a Marxist and Marxism killed 100 million people ergo universal healthcare is bad.

And so on.

Serious lack of self awareness. Perhaps limit your responses to what is posted as opposed what you want to believe is posted, that will see you right. Probably do a lot of others on here some good too.

Thelonious Monk

There have been protests over an arrest of a rapper in Spain, Christ they don't hold back at the police over there, the sound is incredible.
It shows how peaceful this country is generally when the whole country is totally shocked because a grey tracksuit person shot a rocket at the police.

https://twitter.com/RoofAdvisorUK/status/1366737168077643779

Junkyard Tom

Bambi wrote: »

I believe you were trying to make a point about bad faith arguments and guilt by association when you immediately followed up with this doozy:

Which is an example of a bad faith argument well worn by the likes of Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro and gets regurgitated by their fanboys on boards.ie because they like to immerse themselves in the US culture war.

Congratulations, you get my point.

Mad_maxx

Birneybau wrote: »

Look at the gang that hang around Rowan Croft.

who is Rowan Croft ?

sounds like a fake name or a villain in one of the Too Fast Too Furious movies

CathalDublin

Is this firework guy? cringe
https://twitter.com/ContemporaryIr1/status/1365959190339063808?s=20

francois

Mad_maxx wrote: »

who is Rowan Croft ?

sounds like a fake name or a villain in one of the Too Fast Too Furious movies

Ex British army, goes by the handle Gran Torino on twitter

Mad_maxx

francois wrote: »

Ex British army, goes by the handle Gran Torino on twitter

is he a Brit ?

does he live here or in the UK ?

Tippman24

I think that a movement needs to be set up to "Free The Grafton Street One". Marches to Dail and whatever prison he is locked up in need to be organised.

nullzero

Tippman24 wrote: »

I think that a movement needs to be set up to "Free The Grafton Street One". Marches to Dail and whatever prison he is locked up in need to be organised.

You fire ahead, we'll hold your pint.

ExMachina1000

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

There have been protests over an arrest of a rapper in Spain, Christ they don't hold back at the police over there, the sound is incredible.
It shows how peaceful this country is generally when the whole country is totally shocked because a grey tracksuit person shot a rocket at the police.

https://twitter.com/RoofAdvisorUK/status/1366737168077643779

The second clip. Now that's a protest. That's how it's done.

DerekC16

Tippman24 wrote: »

I think that a movement needs to be set up to "Free The Grafton Street One". Marches to Dail and whatever prison he is locked up in need to be organised.

This fella is no stranger to the gardai from what I'm hearing. Apparently hes moving a lot of weight out in the Monkstown/Dun Laoighaire area.

jelem

francois wrote: »

Ex British army, goes by the handle Gran Torino on twitter

what evidence for producing that name or is it another pluck from air

francois

jelem wrote: »

what evidence for producing that name or is it another pluck from air

Google is your friend

francois

Mad_maxx wrote: »

is he a Brit ?

does he live here or in the UK ?

No Irish, lives here

jelem

francois wrote: »

Google is your friend

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i saw the DDR in 1970s and what the so called great democracies usa\europe stated the abuse and anti democratic
behaviour of the government.
here we are 2021 and a more severe regime in so called democratic countries.
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